which ring?

[Tymon]

Raja's Ring:

OR

Sattva Ring:

As all of you know, my main is and always will be PLD, so Sattva is obviously the first glance choice. But, my WAR is very close at 65 now, and it's a blast to play and I intend to play it alot once its over 70, making Raja's Ring a very good option as well. Question is, which do I really want? I can't decide.

The HP on Sattva is absolutely amazing for a PLD ring. It's just about the same as the very rare Bloodbead ring, I would say overall it's better with the Enmity and the VIT addons.

The DEX on the Raja's Ring is very nice. Also a money saver for me as I could sell one of my Victory rings on WAR. Subtle Blow and Store TP are great traits to have, though it would be a small amount with just the amount on the ring alone. Still leaning towards Sattva, but if I end up using WAR most, I get no use..

I'll make a desision in the morning, so help me choose! :crazy:

 

[Reko]

I'm having the exact same problem, only the other way around hehe.

Post thoughts you lazy QCDN nerds!

 

[Excalibur]

Well so far the poll is 100.00% for Sattva

 

[Direwolf]

I voted Rajas. It is useful on every job including Ninja, while the other ring is really just for PLDs. The fact that Rajas is more versatile is the winning combo for me. But if you are ABSOLOUTLY sure you are going to be a tank now and always then get the tanking ring.

 

[Celvantes]

I've been thinking about this for quite some time (even though I have a long way to go in CoP, lol).

They way I see it is this: if you want to level a DD job all the way from 30 to 75, the Rajas Ring is a good choice. You'll get the most out of it then. You can still use it in a PLD setup when fighting VTs and below in merit parties (for added damage output and more weaponskills with the additional TP).

However, I believe Sattva is the better choice if you're going to do most of your playing as a 75 PLD. Granted, I'm only 67, but just looking at the numbers, the HP and other stats simply can't be beat. You could do Sattva/Jelly (or Defending if you have it) for most exp situations. Sattva/Bomb Queen for max HP or Sattva/Bloodbead if you're fighting something that dishes out fire. I just can't conceive of a better ring for HNM tanking. Furthermore, you can use it for all capped fights except for BCNM 20s.

Also, I saw a 75 WAR today with a Sattva Ring.

 

[Jimm]

I cried when i picked Rajas...I love it for MNK...but I wish I could have Satva for PLD since I use it alot more than MNK >.>

Would be nice if you could trade them in everynow and then. ;o

If you are always gonna main PLD I would say Sattva. I picked Raja cos once MNK is 75 I'm gonna put PLD into reserve.

 

[Elemmire]

Tamas <3

but hmm.. Sattva is really really nice for a PLD... beats the hell outta any other ring in that slot... hmmm.. Rajas is very nice too though.. uhhh I say Sattva :nyam:

 

[Rappa]

Sattva. Excluding the obvious str+5 and vit+5 and just comparing the other stats, dex is generally useless, the store tp will be neglible and possibly even useless for some weapons, and the subtle blow is about the same as the store tp. For Sattva, hp+30 is obviously good, agi+3 will help with evasion, and enmity+3 will keep the mob on you. Get Sattva for your pld and Flame Ring(s) for war.

 

[kisada]

bq and jelly are imo better than any combination with sattva, and i'm sure you have those two already.

pick rajas and don't think twice.

 

[Tagrineth]

bq and jelly are imo better than any combination with sattva, and i'm sure you have those two already.

pick rajas and don't think twice.

no

BQ and Defending > BQ and jelly.

 

[Ronith]

coming from me, saying the Raja's is a no brainer^^;

drk 4 life

I'd say Raja's anyways cause it would have a use as PLD as well if you were to decide to do anything solo... but that would be a rare occasion, but eh... that other is badass for a tank, hard choice but me, being my DRK would go with the Raja

 

[Lanien]

no

BQ and Defending > BQ and jelly.

Considering Defending ring is still pretty damn rare, I don't think he was putting that down as a readily available option.

 

[decidence]

People are voting based on what THEY want or like and not based on what YOU should get... thus this poll is useless.

As a PLD main you will regret getting Rajas. Choose your ring not based on what job you have fun with or Merit PT with, choose the one that will make you most effective in end game because that's what their best for.

 

[Ronith]

People are voting based on what THEY want or like and not based on what YOU should get... thus this poll is useless.

As a PLD main you will regret getting Rajas. Choose your ring not based on what job you have fun with or Merit PT with, choose the one that will make you most effective in end game because that's what their best for.

actually^^ no I didnt only base it on what I want I said it would be nice in some situations for PLD but overall the Sattva would be a hell of a lot better, that's a "No shit" question if he was only using it ever on PLD, which he would, but he was considering using his WAR so therefore the Raja would be a better choice...

 

[Lavi]

Sattva. Excluding the obvious str+5 and vit+5 and just comparing the other stats, dex is generally useless, the store tp will be neglible and possibly even useless for some weapons, and the subtle blow is about the same as the store tp. For Sattva, hp+30 is obviously good, agi+3 will help with evasion, and enmity+3 will keep the mob on you. Get Sattva for your pld and Flame Ring(s) for war.

That's not true at all. Dex is very helpful with accuracy and helps with critical hits. I've heard different variations on the amount it helps, but none the less it does help.

The Sattva ring is very limited in it's uses. Mainly meant for tanks and although one of, if not the best ring for PLDs or NIN (AGI is awesome for evasion and NIN pay a fortune for +enmity), but beyond these two jobs they have no extreme benefits for anyone else. However, any melee(I am including RNG) is greatly benefited by the added STR, DEX helps with accuracy and improves critical hits. The DEX also helps boost SATA for thief main or sub. Granted the HP is amazing on Sattva ring for HNM and gods, but the VIT alone won't have much effect on the damage you take. So in those cases substituting an HP ring like Bloodbead would do just as good. The way I see it is most PLD care less about VIT when it comes to HNM and gods and go for HP, but in exp they switch the HP gear back to defense and VIT. So the benefit of both HP and VIT at the same time isn't as great as say DEX and STR. DEX and STR is factored in every hit a melee makes, regardless of exp mob, HNM or god. The same could be said of the Tamas ring. No spell is affected by both INT and MND at the same time and the benefit can be substituted equally by seperate rings. The MP boost, although great, most BLMs require resting whether in exp, HNM or gods anyways and few MP will only slightly affect the end outcome over a long period.

There is also another way to look at this as well. Maybe an evaluation of the cost of either choice would be more helpful. Like if a person were to get all the rings that would give comparable stats and compare those prices. For instance, one could get Soil Ring or the Robust Ring (both VIT+5), Hercules Ring (+3 enmity) or Mermaid Ring(+2 enmity) and Breeze or Nimble Ring (+5 AGI each) to replace the added stats of Sattva . Calculate the rough costs and check it versus the similar rings for Rajas.

In all honesty tho, the best choice is the one you will get the most use of. Since you are a PLD all the way, I'd probably go Sattva. If you preferred to be a WAR most of the time then chose the RAjas ring, but be careful, this is a one time deal and you cannot change back.

 

[ForteTeppo]

my though: Raja's ring will be a more intresting choice. I believe Pld is the only job that requires vit and hp. Raja helps out 9 different jobs.
Some point along the game you will wish that you have Raja's since doing a single job isnt as fun as playing multiples.

 

[Mistaya]

If you plan on actively leveling any other melee jobs get rajas. Its just too insanely good for melee. Like a couple people mentioned, rajas is good for what, 9 jobs? Sattva is good for two...

If you plan on playing as your paladin more than 85% of your in game time, though, get the sattva. Its really up to your playstyle.

 

[Tymon]

I still am leaning towards Sattva mostly because the stats on Rajas are buyable. The stats on Sattva mostly are a rare/ex deal.

 

[Mishaela]

It's up to you, not us. =P I personally dunno myself, but Raja = hitting more and a little harder, plus you get more TP and give less, which in effect means you hold hate better.

On the other hand, you take less and block/parry more with Sattva, and have that +3enmity..it's basically a "do you want to deal more, or take less?" question. I'd say you might wanna get Rajas just because you have multiple jobs that can put it to great use (the other one you'd only be able to get great use out of while being PLD or farming)

 

[Tagrineth]

I still am leaning towards Sattva mostly because the stats on Rajas are buyable. The stats on Sattva mostly are a rare/ex deal.

Rajas stats aren't buyable either; you can't get any other rings with store TP or Subtle Blow, let alone rings that add both at once, or even rings that add both STR and DEX -with- SB/STP.

Oh, and

The DEX also helps boost SATA for thief main or sub.

Incorrect, DEX and AGI do absolutely nothing for /THF SATA.