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Whitemage this is samari, monk, and ninja.

ninja, monk, sam, this is whitemage.

Mr. whitemage doesn't have erase, let's take turns to explain to him why 300k+ isnt a big deal, and why erase is such an important spell.

Ninja: I have to spend 5K on each stack for utesemi and over millions in ACC+ and EVA+ gear. When I have Slow I cannot cast my skills cast enough, nor can i chain tp to close skillchains.

Monk: I spend over millions in ATK+ and ACC+ gear and food. Having slow or blind on me highly fucks up my hit and speed rate.

SAM: I also spend Millions in ATK, DEX, ACC+ and food. Having blind and slow on me fucks up my tp rate.




So whitemage's, Please get erase. Not only can you save us from the deadly slow spell and blind spell. But you can also save others from shit like posion and curse.
 
Against blindness, I use Blindna. Thank God it doesn't cost 300k.
 
I was partying with a withmage who didnt have blindna or erase. An antican blinded me, I am a SAM. I was fucked for a good bit. Lol
 
And when you get bored with your sam/monk you can sell all that million dollar gil gear back with marginal loses unlike erase. On top of this, who the heck uses erase on slow? Just haste them and you kill two birds with one stone. Erase is really overreated (and yes I have it and want my money back). Only time you need erase is for the top lvl spiders whose slow overwrites haste instead of vice versa. Crabs is an utter waste of time and mp to try to erase as well.
 
And when you get bored with your sam/monk you can sell all that million dollar gil gear back with marginal loses unlike erase. On top of this, who the heck uses erase on slow? Just haste them and you kill two birds with one stone. Erase is really overreated (and yes I have it and want my money back). Only time you need erase is for the top lvl spiders whose slow overwrites haste instead of vice versa. Crabs is an utter waste of time and mp to try to erase as well.
 
And when you get bored with your sam/monk you can sell all that million dollar gil gear back with marginal loses unlike erase. On top of this, who the heck uses erase on slow? Just haste them and you kill two birds with one stone. Erase is really overreated (and yes I have it and want my money back). Only time you need erase is for the top lvl spiders whose slow overwrites haste instead of vice versa. Crabs is an utter waste of time and mp to try to erase as well.

Have you ever seen the damage output of a DD with STR down? -10 STR is a big deal. If you can't erase it, don't expect chain 5 to happen too often.

It's a very useful spell. If you don't have it by level 40, get off your lazy ass and get it.

Give me 300k for the spell and i'll go buy it for my whm.

Stupid thread. gg.

Stupid post. gg. (GG... WOW, SEE HOW I PWNED YOU THERE!!!11!!1ONE!!1)
 
It's a very useful spell. If you don't have it by level 40, get off your lazy ass and get it.

That wasn't directed towards you Rones. It was meant as a general statement to everyone. ^^
 
I'd also like to point out that the 20 second recast timer and 40 mp for Haste makes it a bad choice and a waste of MP to reverse slow. Erase is 18 mp and instant recast.

Now I'm not sure how this works. If someone is Hasted, and they're slowed, then they're just normal right? The Slow cancels the Haste? Is the opposite true too?
 
Erase is good to have at low levels pre haste, other then that I don't see much use for it untill later levels.
 
Have you ever seen the damage output of a DD with STR down? -10 STR is a big deal. If you can't erase it, don't expect chain 5 to happen too often.
I should expect that sort off comment from someone who only sees one side of it. All you see is you do more dmg. Did you stop to consider that if the whm did spam erase for all those crabs you might not be able to get a chain 3? Erase has a large cooldown of 15 seconds and at 18mp a pop, having to erase 3 melees 3 times a fight (average against crabs) becomes a full time job that prevents the whm from not only getting any resting in during the fight, but costs additional mp for a benefit that is going to vanish again momentarily when the crabs spams its aoe str down again. That time and effort is just an absolute waste not mention it will wear out your whm player in the literal since, which results in them playing poorer and less efficiently. Most crab aoe last I checked wasn't -10 str, usually 5-7 which is 5-7 dmg from a drk swing for 100+? I can live with that if it means I'll be able to have enough mp to make it to chain 5 and not tire myself after the first hour of exping.

So do your whm a favor and ditch the /sh <Erase> mE nOw!!!11! <call1> <call10> <call911> macro that you melees use when fighting crabs. It just isn't mp efficient to erase against crabs. Same way it isn't always good to try to keep everyone hasted if it means you are running out of mp after pull 2-3. Of course, if your whm is standing around with full mp, nothing to cure, and picking his nose, then yeah he should erase you, but if that's the case you would probably be better off fighting something harder or with someone in place of the whm. :roll:

I'd also like to point out that the 20 second recast timer and 40 mp for Haste makes it a bad choice and a waste of MP to reverse slow. Erase is 18 mp and instant recast.

Now I'm not sure how this works. If someone is Hasted, and they're slowed, then they're just normal right? The Slow cancels the Haste? Is the opposite true too?
Considering you and your rdm will be trying to keep all your melees hasted already, why bother erasing it if you are just going to haste them right after? Haste doesn't simply cancel it, it overwrites slow. A slowed person hit with haste gains the full effect of haste, loses slow and any future hits of slow on the player are blocked by haste until haste wears (lasts 2 mins). [/quote]
 
Umm...

are you shittin me?
all whms without erase apst lvl 50 should just quit..
Bio status effects down... such as the Robber Crabs Bubble shower -5 STR.
BIO.
Slow-- makes my flash from 45 secs to 1 min
Erase is definetly worth the 300k
 
Erase

any sub say as...
blm/whm
smn/whm
rdm/whm
should all have erase after 66.
thats just in my _OPINION_
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Rones said:
And when you get bored with your sam/monk you can sell all that million dollar gil gear back with marginal loses unlike erase. On top of this, who the heck uses erase on slow? Just haste them and you kill two birds with one stone. Erase is really overreated (and yes I have it and want my money back). Only time you need erase is for the top lvl spiders whose slow overwrites haste instead of vice versa. Crabs is an utter waste of time and mp to try to erase as well.

SAM / MNK?

Lol I'm SAM / WAR

God forbid any of you who think that erase is pointless and costs too much, ever become a high level blackmage. You'll be so gimped without all those High level spells like quake and such.
 
Ehh who uses ancient magic? I sure hope you don't o_O
 
No, use a III spell. It's more efficient.

And erase is limited to healing a select few things. You get blind, you use blinda. You get cursed, you use cursna.

You are now better informed. Complain more now.
 
Ok here is my thought on Erase in a few simple ways.

Pluses
-It removes spell status.

Minuses
-All the other spells I have remove the exact same spell minus a stat down status.
-A WHM without Blindna? That is a pretty crappy WHM aint my fault.
-Slow can be countered by haste.
-300k is far better invested in other gear.
-If I where doing a BCNM and I where to get an Erase drop, which seems likely in the near future, I would keep and use it.
-When you decide your Job is the most boring thing in the whole world and you would rather by bashing your head against the wall (Which I have done numeruse times) you will realize... Oh shit I have X hundred to million K in spells that I will never see again.
-After all this is the fact it costs 300k.

Your WHM should have had Blindna no doubt, and I fully believe in having EVERY spell possibale, including those costly Teleport spell. Erase however, no one has yet to give me a good reason to justify the gil.
 
xKronox said:
Isn't freeze a very useful MB? and a anceint magic?

Yes it is. Incredibely useful, just don't do it until the mob is at 40% HP otherwise you have one very pissed crab.
 
You spend millions of $$ on gear.. cry cry cry. You can also sell the gear when you outgrow it. Wish I could sell my spells I don't use any more. But yes I have erase and Yes I use it when needed on who needs it the most for the good of the party. I am not going o erase the whole party just to have to do it again in 30 seconds. And yes if you are slowed and we haste you, it removes slow AND adds haste (most of the time). Why is it that the mages get told how to do their jobs by melee jobs..... I say all you guys should go lvl WHM to 30 and get a taste of how it is for us.
 
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