WHM Tanks, it is possible

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I hope you piss off the wrong person one day ingame and get your ass banned
 
LOL, go ahead and try to get me banned. Just remember to move the keyboard with you need to puke while you are talking to the GMs. Hey I got a cure for you right here. It's called physical activity and sunlight. You should try it sometime.
 
What kind of prick are you? using the fact that i'm sick to insult is lower then anything on earth. Does it make you feel good that you can insult me with my illness? if it does, you are by far a worse person then everyother jackass that got banned off this site.
 
Well, yes. I can honestly say, yes it does. So the fact that you start your reply to my post with an insult on myself has no bearing on how I should treat you? Man this is great...Get well soon!!
 
Well it was a honest question, I'm wondering what kind of prick you are.
no insult there.
 
BTW, I was refering to your insult in this post on page 12. You call me retarded I make fun of you for being feeble. Simple as that.

Myrrh said:
God your retarded, I'm a 71 whm, you know what? We CAN solo but that doesn't mean we are able to tank. WHMs MAIN job is to heal. Just because there are all those weapons out there, it doesn't mean we can tank. I'm sure you'll reply bitching about how people doubt whms abilities. but tell me this if we are able to tank why does our 2hr heal? STFU you bad whm, you insult the job just by subbing it.


Oh and about your "I can get to 60 on 3 jobs" STFU I hate people who say "just because i can get to "this lvl" it means i'm better then you"

Lvl means nothing in this game, it's all about a players skill. I'm sure i can get any job i wanted to 75 by getting a static and not pay attention. So your lvl shit means nothing. If i ever pted with you on your whm and you melee'd or even tried to tank i'd link everything i could and try to delvl your ass back to 4.
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Right........ what next a flame on me for calling you a retard? theres someone else on the board you should meet who also seems to get really pissed when someone calls him a retard. WSM

you should PM him and you two can cry about being stupid.
 
Hey now. Your the one crying about hoping I get banned. OH MY GOOODD WHAT KIND OF PRICK SAYS THIS STUFF??? I was just telling you that it's this guy right here.
 
W/e, if you want to feel like a big man insulting the ill then enjoy. w/e floats your boat.We really should stop thread craping.

If you want to melee as whm go ahead, gl getting Invites. I'll stick to the "right" way of being a whm.
 
Shaunessy said:
LOL, go ahead and try to get me banned. Just remember to move the keyboard with you need to puke while you are talking to the GMs. Hey I got a cure for you right here. It's called physical activity and sunlight. You should try it sometime.
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What a bunch of worthless bullshit. So you can come up with nothing pertinent to the argument to bitch at Myrrh for? Something in game maybe that is relevant to tanks or healing and the WHM role? Instead you make a ridiculous jab about a rl physical ailment? Do you even know what Myrrh's condition is? Do you have any sort of degree in medicine?

I motion to change Shaunessy's title to "Dr. Fullofshit".
 
Well i can't really read this topic anyone got to many ppl on my agnore list i can't see shit......start quoteing everyone lol
 
Baja, Myrrh, several other people...WHM CAN tank. (Just doesn't mean they'll keep hate or even live) :wink:

In all seriousness though, WHM/NIN can tank so-so. Their eva is far, far too low to be able to successfully keep shadows up vs anything T or higher though (they'd wind up standing there spamming an Utsusemi/Stoneskin/Flash cycle and probably have trouble keeping hate)

As for DD, with some food I've gotten as high as 1800 Hexa on T mobs, but I also have SeaRobber/Seawolf/Morgenstern at my disposal [which most don't] and that's also my absolute best, and it needed a BRD to boot; I'm normally VERY lucky to break 1k on anything EM or higher, and forget trying to do anything to IT at all.
 
I agree Mishy.

Shaunessy is the spawn of Colbwa, this I truly believe with all of my heart.

Myrrh I hope u get to feeling better, dont worry about shaun he's a dumbfuck. He thinks he's a badass cuz he got a whm job to Lv. 60 holy shit!!!! Even colbwa managed to get to 75. It is because of fucktards who don't kick people because they dont wanna hurt someone's feelings that these shitholes make it this far.
 
Shaunessy said:
Wow I didn't even have to say anything for Blowjob... err.. Bajaratt to mention me. I feel so special. I would like to thank all of the douchbags that think that everything they say about this game is the word of god. I would also like to give "props" to the people that think every job should be played only one way. It sure takes a thick ass skull and extremely narrow vision to stick to the cookie cutter rules in this game. You know what surprises me though. For not knowing how to play I sure made it to a level 60 WHM easily enough. I'm also getting pretty close to 60 SAM. I'm sure if I really wanted to I could get my BLM up to 60 just as easily, and well hell, just about every job I play I never get kicked out of the party for completely sucking...

The thing I think is the best though is that WHM actually has better DEF than say DRK, THF, RNG, RDM, MNK. MNK does have counterstance though so you have to give it up to them for that. I believe that with the right gear a WHM could tank. Hell why do so many Hammers have +ATK on them...Oh yeah because they are only for solo work .....riiiiiiight. Do what you want to though because I still laugh a how different people play this game. Here's an example, my buddy is a 68 WHM and had to do skillup parties to get his club skill up. I'm a 60 WHM and I'm like 17 levels below him in club skill, without doing one skillup party.

The sweetest thing about having a WHM though is being able to PL your other characters. Man I love that.
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I was pointing out other retarded whm's who shouldn't be handing out advice(because it's bad advice) but still do it anyways, that would include you. White mage is not a tank. A E-rating in evasiona and a D-rating in shield means they'd have to depend on stoneskin or blink/utsusemi to even stay alive and neither of those would be reliable against a VT-IT mob, let alone whm's lack of ways to gain and hold hate. The only way whm would be able to reliably hold hate would be to spam cures, which wouldn't happen if they stoneskin/blink tank or they would get interrupted a lot if either of those was down. Whm can't depend on other spells because Flash wouldn't generate enough hate and banish 3/holy both have a 1-minute cooldown and don't generate that much damage anyways. Whm melee is very low in damage, so even a thf could steal hate by just meleeing. There is no effective way for whm to hold hate, therefore they cannot tank. Gear isn't the issue(although it doesn't help), it's the aspects of the job(abilities/traits/spells/damage output/damage input) that prevent white mage from being able to tank.

As for bragging about how you're meleeing in exp parties, you're still an idiot for doing that. If you have time to sit there and auto-attack in a party, your ass should be touching the ground getting mp back. You're lowering the chain you can get for the few random hits you get in for damage that makes a thf's melee look great.

You're labeling all the whm's playing their job correctly as "cookie-cutter" when it's actually "most effective." The game has been out for 4.5 years, most of the game has been analyzed into a science; people found the most effective subs/setups to net the maximum amount of exp possible. You don't like it, form your own parties, but don't expect everyone to conform to your view when you join another party. If you haven't been kicked from exp parties for meleeing, then either your leader didn't notice, couldn't find a replacement, or was too nice to tell you to stop. I've kicked rdm's, whm's and brd's for not doing their job right and refusing to do them right when asked; not kicking people for playing poorly just lets them perpetuate their stupidity in the game, people need to stop it.

Mishaela said:
Baja, Myrrh, several other people...WHM CAN tank. (Just doesn't mean they'll keep hate or even live) :wink:

In all seriousness though, WHM/NIN can tank so-so. Their eva is far, far too low to be able to successfully keep shadows up vs anything T or higher though (they'd wind up standing there spamming an Utsusemi/Stoneskin/Flash cycle and probably have trouble keeping hate)

As for DD, with some food I've gotten as high as 1800 Hexa on T mobs, but I also have SeaRobber/Seawolf/Morgenstern at my disposal [which most don't] and that's also my absolute best, and it needed a BRD to boot; I'm normally VERY lucky to break 1k on anything EM or higher, and forget trying to do anything to IT at all.
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I'm not saying that whm is unable to solo anything, but they can't tank. Tanking is staying alive while keeping hate on yourself. For soloing, or with an npc you can do fine, but when you throw in a DD job, the DD job will end up tanking just because of the amount of damage they can do will massively trump a whm's.
 
The game has been out for 4.5 years
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Unrelated, but why is it so common for people to exaggerate FFXI's uptime?
 
Tagrineth said:
Unrelated, but why is it so common for people to exaggerate FFXI's uptime?
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It's been about 2.5 years since the NA release(October/november 2003, right?), and I thought it had been out for 2 years before then, so 2 + 2.5 = 4.5. If I'm overestimating how long the game was out before NA release then I'm overestimating how long the games been out.
 
Er, last sentance should read "If I'm wrong about how long the game has been out before NA release than I'm overestimating how long the game has been out."
 
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