Why is the PS3 a fail?

Anttaru said:
DMC4's turn around was announced by officials. We're talking about roumors Skaw, there is a difference.
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There is a difference, yes. But neither MGS or Final Fantasy are coming out any time soon. Theres a lot of time between now and then for a turn around to occur, and a lot of time for the PS3s sales to pick up or drop off. The same applies to the 360. What I was getting at is "exclusive" means crap until a release actually occurs. Developers and Publishers go where they can get more money, if it's multiplatform, or completely jumping ship - they'll do it.
 
Yah, exclusives by third parties are ALWAYS subject to change. Look at Viewtiful Joe and RE4.
 
One important note to make... ports take time to make and if they were making a 360 port of MGS4 or FFXIII, they'd already be in production by this point.

To counter: Devil May Cry 4 has had the 360 version in production secretly for months to be releasing them simultaneously.

Why the FUCK don't they say from the start that games are going multi-platform if they're planning on it? I'm sure there are some people, even if only a few who bought the PS3 specifically because they were told DMC4 was going to be an exclusive. They fuck over their most loyal customer and that customer of course is going to buy their game anyway.
 
Thats why I don't buy consoles for titles that aren't released yet. Thats why I don't own a Wii or a PS3. I'm told XXXXXX Title will come out on them, I'm content with waiting until it actually occurs. Theres no rush, so why do people feel the need to buy, and play low quality launch titles until their desired title actually comes out 8-18 months later?
 
Tagrineth said:
WHY is everyone drooling so much over Killzone 2 when the first one sucked so much, lol.
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As usual Tagrineth you counter me with a laugh. So i'll tell you why.

First i'll mention Kill Zone has the most realistic animation for a first person shooter, that's the way they should be done. If you were an artist you'd have respect for the work put into Kill Zone compared to alot of other first person shooters. Sure the game lacked co-operative mode, the PS2 wouldn't handle it, Kill Zone has too great of detail, and it does deliver a great experience.

Kill Zone 2 ? A very brave tech demo from Sony Europe, makes it the big one for the PS3. If Kill Zone 2 really does achieve such quality on the PS3, No first person shooter, or no game for that matter will ever match the amount of geometry and special FX being prouduced in a single scene. The pegs on the wheel of the jeep alone has a ton of geometry, and it's still pushing out millions of polygons for the stage and character models, which happen to be pretty damn smooth models at that. Is the game going to have such smoke particles aswell ? Because you know you've never seen that kind of shit in a video game ever. If you cannot reconize what Kill Zone 2 is about to bring, you're right to ask more questions.

Because of the nature of what the PS3 will be doing with the cell broadband processor, the physics and simulated gravity will make for an upmost unique experience. I'm not going to say that is the only way to eliminate routine game play. It's just a sick way of doing it.

I'm convinced the PS3 has a unique way to composite images of ourselves in 3D, even in real time if need be. I think it would be awsome if they intergrated such techniques in Kill Zone. But it probably won't happen.
 
Skaw said:
There is a difference, yes. But neither MGS or Final Fantasy are coming out any time soon. Theres a lot of time between now and then for a turn around to occur, and a lot of time for the PS3s sales to pick up or drop off. The same applies to the 360. What I was getting at is "exclusive" means crap until a release actually occurs. Developers and Publishers go where they can get more money, if it's multiplatform, or completely jumping ship - they'll do it.
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Before more confusion comes about, i'll point out how i listed what is coming to PS3. I never said what will be exclusive. I did that so i can list MGS. Also saying FFXIII "is" going to the 360 is false. What more can i say ?

Squaresoft sells systems, as they have in the past. FFXIII is massive, and it will continue to sell long after it's release. It's an ego thing that can further increase SquareEnix's value in the gaming world like you would not believe.

I don't deny SE can change their mind about things, It would disrupt what was written though.
 
So, basically, Anttaru, what you're saying is that regardless of if the game is any good or not, Killzone 2's graphics alone make it a must-buy? What the hell... lol.

Firestreak said:
http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-32115.aspx
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Good post, but you know, it's always fun reading articles on why _____ console will win when it's written by one of the bigwigs of a 2nd party developer for that console, lol. Have you ever heard the word 'bias' before?

The linked article mentions things like 'fitting in 6 gigs' on a DVD, which is blatantly false as a DVD holds more than that. He even refers to the format as DVD9 in the next paragraph. He talks about Gears "squeezing" onto a DVD but it's 6.5GB, not squeezed at all.

HDMI is a selling point right now, but 360 will have it soon too, and it's irrelevant for the Wii.

Then he goes into the "Wii Fad" which is blatant speculation and shouldn't be on a list like this. Hell, isn't this supposed to be a list of "why PS3 is the console to beat"? Why is he even attacking the Wii? Such a point should not be in that list at all.

And finally of course he goes into the Cell factor, but ladies and gentleman, allow me to point you to Exhibits A through D - NES, SNES, PS1, and PS2 - the most powerful CPU has never won a generation. The most powerful hardware has never won a generation. It's nice to speculate about the Cell but it won't amount to jack for the consumer, and won't sell systems. Very few games will truly abuse the Cell's power, because it's 7 fucking processors. Multiprocessor systems have ALWAYS given developers headaches, dating back to the goddamn TG-16. Cell is the most multi multiprocessor ever on a console.
 
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Skaw said:
Thats why I don't buy consoles for titles that aren't released yet. Thats why I don't own a Wii or a PS3. I'm told XXXXXX Title will come out on them, I'm content with waiting until it actually occurs. Theres no rush, so why do people feel the need to buy, and play low quality launch titles until their desired title actually comes out 8-18 months later?
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yay! another smart person <3 (same reason I'm not buying any new gen for a good year or so).
 
Tagrineth said:
So, basically, Anttaru, what you're saying is that regardless of if the game is any good or not, Killzone 2's graphics alone make it a must-buy? What the hell... lol.
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You're question is not the correct answer.

What i wrote is, how everyone "will check" Kill Zone 2. I never assumed Kill Zone 2 will be the best game ever made.

Kill Zones graphics is a rather large element to the experience of playing it, there is emotion to seeing realistic looking character models die, especially if they were made with love. You dislike Kill Zone personally, that's fine.

Tagrineth, i'm tired of repeating myself to you. It happens everytime we cross paths, If you're going to talk to me, learn how to keep up, cause i'm never in the mood for you.
 
Anttaru said:
You're question is not the correct answer.

What i wrote is, how everyone "will check" Kill Zone 2. I never assumed Kill Zone 2 will be the best game ever made.

Kill Zones graphics is a rather large element to the experience of playing it, there is emotion to seeing realistic looking character models die, especially if they were made with love. You dislike Kill Zone personally, that's fine.

Tagrineth, i'm tired of repeating myself to you. It happens everytime we cross paths, If you're going to talk to me, learn how to keep up, cause i'm never in the mood for you.
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Woop de do, graphics. You know what game had awesome graphics last gen? Wreckless. You wanna hear a game with bad graphics last gen? Grand Theft Auto III. Whoops, wait, check the sales on those.

Fire: I wouldn't exactly call that link PS3 praise, but yeah, Epic doesn't have any problems with PS3 either.
 
Firestreak said:
Honest question. Did you ever play Killzone? And if the answer's no, get the hell out of here.
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i played it and it DID suck balls, The AI was soooo horrible you could be standing in front of a guy and he wouldnt shoot at you, he would just yell HELP ME!!!!! which me and my friend to this day still yell that in the same way they did because it was sooo funny, Halo killer my ass. It was its own killer XD Killzone Killer
 
Anttaru said:
First i'll mention Kill Zone has the most realistic animation for a first person shooter, that's the way they should be done.
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The way people fell after falling was anything but realistic...
 
Anttaru said:
First i'll mention Kill Zone has the most realistic animation for a first person shooter, that's the way they should be done.
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Lanien said:
The way people fell after falling was anything but realistic...
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I said it has the most realistic animation for a first person shooter. Never said it was perfect. You can bring that up if you want though. Helps me see.
 
My favorite FPS franchises out there are Timesplitters(TS4 will be multiplatform without a doubt) and Socom(PS exclusive). For reference, I do believe that Killzone will be a great game but because of the effort they've been putting into it for a long time, the huge budget and every piece of media I've seen about it... all badass.

Fact is... I'm sure Sony-haters are going to say Killzone 2 sucks no matter how good it is but it'll be well enough of a PS3 exclusive for me. Resistance is a lot of fun, to me, and as the guy who actually owns a PS3, I'm the one who matters, not people trolling a PS3 board looking to fling shit.

And seriously... between Resistance, Killzone, Warhawk... not to mention the shitloads of multiplatforms coming out this year... I really have no complaints of PS3 in the FPS department. so far... Resistance has been well enough for me, and they've already added new modes and are about to add some new maps. I haven't felt the need to get Call of Duty 3 and I'll probably pass on Splinter Cell. If I buy F.E.A.R. or Rainbow Six it means that I had nothing better to spend 60 bucks on.

By all means, if FPS are your main concern, buy a 360... or better yet, don't get a console and spend your money on a PC to play Crysis. If FPS was important to me, I'd have something better than an Athlon 2400 and an ATI 9500 running through my system.

But seriously, back to where I started... Killzone 1 could have been worse than South Park N64 game, doesn't mean Killzone 2 isn't going to be great with a solid development team, years to perfect it and a huge budget... and oh yeah, being able to design it around the cell and with the blu-ray for storage doesn't hurt does it?

Survey says: Firestreak has fun playing it.
Survey says: Skaw and Tagrineth declare it cannot be fun by making a post on QCDN stating, "lolKillzone 2" cause they read on an Xbox messageboard it sucks.
Survey says: FIrestreak continues having fun and not giving a shit.
 
Honestly after weeks of this bullshit I couldn't care less. You're all pretty much assholes in my book that have nothing better to do than go on the messageboard of a gaming system you don't like and bash it. Sorry for not spending the time to find out who is saying what anymore as if you represented anything to me anymore other than a loud, annoying hum.
 
Firestreak said:
Sorry for not spending the time to find out who is saying what anymore as if you represented anything to me anymore other than a loud, annoying hum.
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Obviously we are if 1) you're bothering to respond and 2) Mmanaging to be pulled you away from the Playstation 3 you oh so want to play so bad.

It speaks bounds for how entertaining it is if you'd rather be posting here, bursting a blood vessel over defending how entertaining it is.


By the way, nice signature. I'm sure you need the constant reminder that you're a dumbass for saying that. Where are those links to articles I requested to back up that ignorant, retarded little statement? Oh right, they don't exist.
 
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