Wierd crap while playing game

Kittin said:
The video glitches you are seeing are called artifacts. When overclocking your video card, setting the voltages too high for the card will overheat it and the artifacts will appear. If the new drivers didn't fix your problem your card is probably overheating.

Check the fan on your card, it could be full of dirt if you have never cleaned it before. A can of air would be helpful here but if you're poor you can just pull the card out and remove the fan and pick the dirt out.

You could also go into your bios and change the voltages to your card manually but I don't suggest that if you have never done it before.

I would also suggest browsing the internet or website forums like www.anandtech.com rather than posting here where a bunch of people like me, who think they know what they are talking about, start running you in circles.
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No, is not a dirt problem, he just brought the card like 2 days ago.

I also when to his house and check the problem, I check his bio configuration, and didn't see any video card option that allow to change voltages power, only thing that can change is PCI or AGP thingy, I also check his CPU temperture (it shows in a bio log thingy) his CPU temp was at 145°F, oh btw his power supplies are 250 Watts, don't know if that detail will be helpful. 4 main courses,

1) Overheating
2) Video Card is defacted
3) Bad Drivers
4) Spyware/Virus/Worm/Trojan

Or you can call 1-800-Geek-Squad
XD 24 hours customer support :O
 
Vandoura said:
oh btw his power supplies are 250 Watts
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Ahem, what?! That's suicide on modern systems. My computer consumes somewhere in the neighbourhood of 212w at idle, and it's recommended you keep your @load power consumption below 65% of your power supply's max. Thus, if I draw ~250w @load, I should have at least a 400w power supply (65% of 400w = 260, roughly my @load consumption). So that's one thing worth trying, a 350w power supply is fairly cheap.

Vandoura said:
1) Overheating
2) Video Card is defacted
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Could be both of these - have you checked the fan on the video card? They have a tendency to seize long before the CPU heatsink fan does; I had to replace the fan on my Radeon 9700 this year because it was spinning at about 30rpm (card is less than 3 years old). I know his card is a bit newer than that but it's worth looking at.
 
CmdrFly said:
Vandoura said:
oh btw his power supplies are 250 Watts
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Ahem, what?! That's suicide on modern systems. My computer consumes somewhere in the neighbourhood of 212w at idle, and it's recommended you keep your @load power consumption below 65% of your power supply's max. Thus, if I draw ~250w @load, I should have at least a 400w power supply (65% of 400w = 260, roughly my @load consumption). So that's one thing worth trying, a 350w power supply is fairly cheap.

Vandoura said:
1) Overheating
2) Video Card is defacted
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Could be both of these - have you checked the fan on the video card? They have a tendency to seize long before the CPU heatsink fan does; I had to replace the fan on my Radeon 9700 this year because it was spinning at about 30rpm (card is less than 3 years old). I know his card is a bit newer than that but it's worth looking at.
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hmm.. My GeforceFX5500 require 250 Watts at min, and my computer is 5 years old, but is working fine for me.
My powersupplies are maybe 250 Watt also, Dell Dim 4400 :P
couldn't be power supplies problem.
 
Vandoura said:
hmm.. My GeforceFX5500 require 250 Watts at min, and my computer is 5 years old, but is working fine for me.
My powersupplies are maybe 250 Watt also, Dell Dim 4400 :P
couldn't be power supplies problem.
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That can't be right... no video card available to consumers consumes 250w. The highest draw for a video card is currently in the mid-100s (I think, don't have the proof to back that up).

What I was suggesting though, is that his power supply may have been stressed too much for too long. If you're always consuming 220w out of a 250w power supply, it's components will wear down and weaken faster than usual. Depending on what's being deteriorated the most (caps & coils are the big culprits if I remember correctly), the power supply may start to put out unstable voltages or a noisy (dirty) wave to your mobo / drives / other devices. Electronics don't fare well with unstable or dirty power, and can do all sorts of weird things.
 
I E-Mailed the company I bought the card from. BTW, I bought my card from http://www.newegg.com cause I'm a cheap bastard. Their response was-

Our suggest solution is:

The latest driver can be download from www.nvidia.com Click on downloaddrivers, choose graphic cards->Geforce and TNT2->(your windows version) If the card overheats due to the fan problem you can request for RMA for warranty service.

Thank you very much,
Jaton Corporation
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RMA sucks. Crack upen your case and see whether the little fan that is sitting on the gfx card cooler is still spinning. If not, take the card out, undo the fan retainers, take the fan to radioshmak and buy a $1.45 replacement fan there.

I don't see the power supply as a problem is the computer was left at stock configuration. If you upgraded parts since you bought it, then 250W may be a bit low.

If the gfx card fan is working correctly, then leave the case open and check whether the other fans are working while the machine is on. You can also try and put a desktop fan next to the open case to blow colder air into it and see if that helps.
 
Sculli said:
RMA sucks. Crack upen your case and see whether the little fan that is sitting on the gfx card cooler is still spinning. If not, take the card out, undo the fan retainers, take the fan to radioshmak and buy a $1.45 replacement fan there.

I don't see the power supply as a problem is the computer was left at stock configuration. If you upgraded parts since you bought it, then 250W may be a bit low.

If the gfx card fan is working correctly, then leave the case open and check whether the other fans are working while the machine is on. You can also try and put a desktop fan next to the open case to blow colder air into it and see if that helps.
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Oh snap. That's a good idea. The driver update only supported alittle bit. Now I get only alittle of that particle crap. But I will take that into consideration.

By the way, the fan is spinning. It's just not that big... Maybe I should see what I can accomplish at Radio Shack...
 
Stock cooling is usually sufficient, unless you overclock your hardware. Overheating can still occur if your case has poor air flow, and if the ambient temperature is too high. Most cases have poor to very poor airflow from an engineering point of view, but most computers are also simply not built to run 24/7 or sustain hours and hours of gaming.

The problem I see with HP cases is that they have very small fresh air intakes, nothing a dremel couldn't fix, but if you don't want to go that far then a desktop fan is probably a good solution.

If you know someone you could swap gfx cards with to test things out, I'd try that to see whether your card is permanently damaged or just suffering from heat.

If you have a multi-meter you may want to check the voltageon your 12V rail while under load. If it's more than 10% off of 12V then you do have a power supply problem after all.
 
So basically I was thinking of leaving the case open and have a fan blast at it. A desktop fan does seem like a good idea though. And your absolutly right about HP computers. Suck ass ventalation.
 
Ok it's not the ventalation problem. Right now I just cooled down the PC, the particles still show up. During gameplay everything is fine, 8 minutes later particles start showing up again. But because of the Driver update not as badly. I toyed with the graphics settings in FFXI Config, In game settings. There must be something that I'm missing.

I dunno what to touch when it comes to the Driver settings. I'm probably gonna have to check something off or disable something, I dunno.
 
I already told you some of the things, but since you dont beleive me and have to go to a forum, let me RESAY what I said before.

This kind of problem leads only to 3 things...

#1 - Graphics Card is Overheating
#2 - Graphics Card Drivers are Out of Date, or Corrupted
#3 - FFXI Dat's are Corrupted, resulting in a reinstallation of FFXI

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For Fixing overheating, or seeing if that is the case.. turn your pc off for about 3 hrs.. then come back and try it in games, if there is no glitching then thats the case... also try puting a big ol , house appliance fan next to your pc with the case open

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For fixing the Drivers, either use the Cd that came with it.. because newer drivers sometime arent the best. or try a different set of drivers

OFFICIAL- www.nvidia.com

Unofficial - www.omegadrivers.net *Drivers I always use, as a PC Tech Gamer*

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Only Way to Fix number 3, is to reinstall the game.
-Use POL to scan your FFXI Files

Hope this helps

*Also note, that I have been a Pc Tech for years, friends have relied on me to fix common pc probs like spyware,etc... A Gamer that doesnt have a healthy pc, will always run into probs...

--Oh and note, constant heat applied to your graphics card without ventalation.. will kill the graphics card, or make it falty as hell.. so fix asap.
 
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