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[Firestreak]

I just don't like the evidence game. Different people can do the same things or be incriminated with the same evidence and people will come to completely different conclusions based on their own biases. I'd rather just admit that I don't give a shit than lie to myself that everyone around me is always innocent and everyone against me is always guilty.

 

[Firestreak]

Oh yes, and I'd much rather that Chrono = Krono than Chrono = Chronicles. =p

 

[Eulore]

Jhn 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Jhn 8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
Jhn 8:9 And they which heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

I'll leave you guys to interpret that on your own.

 

[Mishaela]

Judge not lest ye be judged doesn't work here.
Let he without sin cast the first stone...bullsh-!t. You can't compare the gravity of murder, stealing or pilfering to the gravity of...cheating in a game.

God, I'm not even gonna try to argue this. I'm going to bed.

 

[Legomyeggo]

Jhn 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Jhn 8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
Jhn 8:9 And they which heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

I'll leave you guys to interpret that on your own.

I don't get it. Is his bot christian?

 

[Lavi]

how do you guys turn a perfectly good post flaming chronicles and perse into a post on flaming vang? it's old, let's try something new, okay?

Because Vang does nothing positive towards the truth and instead hurts any argument made. In the past Vang has consistently lied and BSed everything because he loses and for him to call anyone out, it's equivalent to the boy calling wolf. If Vang can't compete (which happens quite often), he shits up a storm. He's a gigantic e-vagina (I bet he's that way in real life too, a complete bitch, but that's just speculation with a lot of good evidence).

From what I was told, the last claim wasn't even Chronicles, someone else in his LS claimed and he obviously voked since his group had claim shortly after that, but if anyone (read: Vang) said otherwise, it wouldn't be all that interesting.

 

[Mistra]

I don't get it. Is his bot christian?

Duh.. weren't you aware Neo, of the added Job Ability called Bible Throw? Yeah man, word has it that it's FASTER THAN CHI BLAST OMG. You know, because obviously Chi Blast is the fastest activating JA in the game. You knew that right? God I didn't. Now Bible Throw is.

 

[Caerloc]

Judge not lest ye be judged doesn't work here.
Let he without sin cast the first stone...bullsh-!t. You can't compare the gravity of murder, stealing or pilfering to the gravity of...cheating in a game.

God, I'm not even gonna try to argue this. I'm going to bed.

Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess that what he is getting at is that only those shells that doesnt bot should judge him. Wich probably adds up to 0 shells if you count those shells who are unaware that someone in their shell bots. I dont think he is actually trying to compare rl-sins to cheating in a game.

It's still stupid either way, just not THAT stupid.

 

[Mattaru]

Mattaru uses Bible Throw.
Fafnir gains the effect of Word of God.

 

[Tymon]

Lol, that's total butchering of the Bible.

If he were using that right it would mean that everyone bots, or has botted before. That isn't true at all. I agree there's at least one guy in every LS that does, but that's a bit out of context there.

Further incriminating him too, unless he's trying to say he's the Jesus of that verse, which is rediculously amusing, because that's the same as saying "Everyone bots but me."

 

[Raesvelg]

I don't get it. Is his bot christian?

No stupid, his bot is a whore.

Im gonna go out on a limb here and guess that what he is getting at is that only those shells that doesnt bot should judge him. Wich probably adds up to 0 shells if you count those shells who are unaware that someone in their shell bots. I dont think he is actually trying to compare rl-sins to cheating in a game.

I doubt it as uncommon as all that. If every shell botted, then every shell would have a slightly larger share of claims at given camps, rather than the somewhat skewed distribution we see these days.

For example, to my knowledge, nobody in Rise bots. No, not even Necrosis. Evidence (namely our utter lack of luck in the claims department) supports that conclusion.

Bots aren't essential to claiming, but they help. So do consistently high numbers at camps, etc etc, but of course people have given reasons why high numbers don't mean as much as you'd think. Oddly enough, those were mostly the people trying to deflect botting accusations.

Bots don't have to be run at every camp. Yes, you can simply have your botter sit one out, so as not to arouse suspicion amongst others.

There can be more than one botter, and they don't all have to run at the same time. Again, so as not to arouse suspicion.

Bots aren't perfect. In the absence of packet sniffers and warp hack, all a bot does is give you a guaranteed accurate claim when the mob you want pops in range. Some people will have a shot at him, but given the delay will be too fast or too slow depending on how fast that person's reflexes are. I've missed claim on various mobs numerous times simply by hitting voke too damn fast and watching someone else claim while I wait for my abilities to unlock.

So a linkshell with a few bots isn't going to magically claim every mob they go out to camp, particularly if their competition also runs bots. They will tend, over time, to outclaim other groups with similar overall numbers that do NOT bot, and have a much higher chance of claiming the ones they really want to claim.

 

[Demonknightx]

Mattaru uses Bible Throw.
Fafnir gains the effect of Word of God.

<Fafnir> the power of christ compels you, lol.
*faf flails*

 

[neophytal]

ive seen it all now. people trying to use the bible to justify themselves on a mmorpg. hahahaaaaaaa

 

[Trelution]

Mattaru uses Bible Throw.
Fafnir gains the effect of Word of God.

Fafnir uses Televangelist Guilt Trip.
Mattaru's gil is reduced to 0.

And you don't wanna see him ready Smite D:

XD

 

[Mistra]

ive seen it all now. people trying to use the bible to justify themselves on a mmorpg. hahahaaaaaaa

Dude no, you'll have seen it all when someone makes a religion based off of a job or something in the game. I couldn't believe it when I read about someone in Europe trying to spread his religion devoted to "Jedi".

Lol

 

[delsus]

Mattaru uses Bible Throw.
Fafnir gains the effect of Word of God.

You played magic the gatherthing?

 

[Reauland]

I've missed claim on various mobs numerous times simply by hitting voke too damn fast and watching someone else claim while I wait for my abilities to unlock.

I absolutely despise that crap. I'm not sure I fully understand how they went about establishing that "lockout" window, but you'd think it could be tweaked back out of the range of good ole human reflexes ><

As to the topic at hand, I hate bots. I hate the fact that they're in use. I hate the fact that, like Firestreak pointed out, even if we swear ourselves off of them, there will always be someone that doesn't. I hate that I'll never know with absolute certainty who has an unfair advantage and who's playing "clean."

 

[hellstorm]

ive seen it all now. people trying to use the bible to justify themselves on a mmorpg. hahahaaaaaaa

lol he pulled that out the colbwa bag of tricks.

As for this thread I didn't see the wiki thing so have no comment, but after event that happen at aspid yesterday I have suspicions

 

[Tagrineth]

ive seen it all now. people trying to use the bible to justify themselves on a mmorpg. hahahaaaaaaa

Doesn't seem like Chronicles can use much else for his defense, and I usually see the bible as the last resort defense for people who don't have a leg to stand on.

Note that I'm NOT saying the bible is BS, just that in a non-religious argument it's a really bad thing to fall back on.

 

[Knightblade]

Is this supposed to make me feel bad? What next you going to tell me you can kick my ass next?

Oh and on a side note; coming on here and saying someone plays too much is stupid considering 3/4 the people that post on here are a frequent player on FF11. And saying im too poor to afford food? please im willing to bet you still live at home with your PARENTS bc of how childish you are coming out in your posts...If you want to say i suck in game; my gear sucks fine but dont claim i cant afford anything when you have no clue. Oh and another thing; if you are going to put down someones gear or even say they have no skillz id atleast have something to back it up with.

Okay, first off, I never "put down someones gear". Second, I never said someone plays too much, where do you even see that? Third, I'm not gonna keep talkin with someone who says skills as "skillz".