Will there ever be a new race?

You're right, it may never happen, but it's never going to be because of story.

No, Story is the main reason it WON'T happen. Its the entire reason it won't happen, not mechanics, not the fact that people would have to start over on a new character, nor any other reason but the story dictates its IMPOSSIBLE. Get over it, you're wrong.
 
No, Story is the main reason it WON'T happen. Its the entire reason it won't happen, not mechanics, not the fact that people would have to start over on a new character, nor any other reason but the story dictates its IMPOSSIBLE. Get over it, you're wrong.

They've added new races every expansion, lol. None of them have been playable, but they haven't had any trouble adding new races so far.
 
They've added new races every expansion, lol. None of them have been playable, but they haven't had any trouble adding new races so far.
Those additional beastmen hadn't been written into the story as the ONLY races in existence since the beginning of the game. Them adding in additional things which were not explicitly made impossible already doesn't matter.
 
They've added new races every expansion, lol. None of them have been playable, but they haven't had any trouble adding new races so far.

You know what i meant -_-
 
You guys think the Zilart were beastmen?
No, but they're all dead. The only races still in existence are the 5 playable races, the only other non-beastmen races are either extinct(especially after the RoZ storyline) or they evolved into beastmen.
 
No, Story is the main reason it WON'T happen. Its the entire reason it won't happen, not mechanics, not the fact that people would have to start over on a new character, nor any other reason but the story dictates its IMPOSSIBLE. Get over it, you're wrong.

Unless they put male mithra in which would fit the story and everything else. Would even acount for their reduced numbers because far less players would be lvling a male mithra full time. Don't missinterpret me I think the odds of ever seeing a male mithra charachter creation choice are negligible.

Beyond the mentioned technichal issues and the PS2 exploding because every piece of gear would need an extension on it, there are logical reasons they wont.

In the end no they wont add new races for a variety of reasons. Its not like WoW where people lvl alot of alts. People in FF XI have 1 main who they do things on and a couple of mules. How many people actualy lvl multiple charachters up? A few outlyers granted, but its not the norm. There are the also mentioned issues in the story, an additional race would screw up all the crystal crap bussiness.

I dont believe we will ever see additional races. Instead of adding more races SE is more then happy to add more jobs. Those you will continue to see more of in future expansions. Dont hold your breath on a new race though.
 
Unless they put male mithra in which would fit the story and everything else. Would even acount for their reduced numbers because far less players would be lvling a male mithra full time. Don't missinterpret me I think the odds of ever seeing a male mithra charachter creation choice are negligible.

Beyond the mentioned technichal issues and the PS2 exploding because every piece of gear would need an extension on it, there are logical reasons they wont.

In the end no they wont add new races for a variety of reasons. Its not like WoW where people lvl alot of alts. People in FF XI have 1 main who they do things on and a couple of mules. How many people actualy lvl multiple charachters up? A few outlyers granted, but its not the norm. There are the also mentioned issues in the story, an additional race would screw up all the crystal crap bussiness.

I dont believe we will ever see additional races. Instead of adding more races SE is more then happy to add more jobs. Those you will continue to see more of in future expansions. Dont hold your breath on a new race though.
Male mithras aren't a race.

Adding them as an option also wouldn't happen because the lore said they're really rare or something so they stay back in the homelands. They're already in the lore, though, so adding them in wouldn't have the colossal problems of a sixth race.
 
Male mithras aren't a race.

Adding them as an option also wouldn't happen because the lore said they're really rare or something so they stay back in the homelands. They're already in the lore, though, so adding them in wouldn't have the colossal problems of a sixth race.

Wait .. wait wait wait ... Sex and race ... are different? And here I thought my vendetta against black people and women could be done through the same means... :shok:
 
WTB: Mithra or Manthra willing to make interracial babies with a big loving Galka. 10k reward.
 
Wait .. wait wait wait ... Sex and race ... are different? And here I thought my vendetta against black people and women could be done through the same means... :shok:
If you just limit yourself to hating black women, then you're fine.
 
No, Story is the main reason it WON'T happen. Its the entire reason it won't happen, not mechanics, not the fact that people would have to start over on a new character, nor any other reason but the story dictates its IMPOSSIBLE. Get over it, you're wrong.

Its been done before, nothing before in the WoW storyline lead towards the draeni coming to azeroth. Blizzard simply added to their story. It was pretty easy actually. "OH, a ship happened to be on it's way to warn the peoplz and happened to crash, now draeni are everywhere." They also did the same with the explanation on why draeni where not as they were in WC3.

A very, very small portion of this game is race specific, it honestly doesn't matter if you're taru, elvaan, or a rock during most quests or missions, much less so then a lot of other mmo's which at least constantly refer to your race on a verbal level if nothing else. Some do make a direct reference to race, but S-E could also simply modify those that are and come up with a good explanation, perhaps they get a smaller different quest that lets them get that key item from a ??? somewhere else in there? (I'm not their creative writer so I'm just bsing stuff.)

You guys are right, it won't happen probably. But saying it's impossible rubs me the wrong way, and I think it's extremely close minded.

But fine, believe what you wish and I shall believe what I will. The argument's moot anyways.
 
Its been done before, nothing before in the WoW storyline lead towards the draeni coming to azeroth. Blizzard simply added to their story. It was pretty easy actually. "OH, a ship happened to be on it's way to warn the peoplz and happened to crash, now draeni are everywhere." They also did the same with the explanation on why draeni where not as they were in WC3.

A very, very small portion of this game is race specific, it honestly doesn't matter if you're taru, elvaan, or a rock during most quests or missions, much less so then a lot of other mmo's which at least constantly refer to your race on a verbal level if nothing else. Some do make a direct reference to race, but S-E could also simply modify those that are and come up with a good explanation, perhaps they get a smaller different quest that lets them get that key item from a ??? somewhere else in there? (I'm not their creative writer so I'm just bsing stuff.)

You guys are right, it won't happen probably. But saying it's impossible rubs me the wrong way, and I think it's extremely close minded.

But fine, believe what you wish and I shall believe what I will. The argument's moot anyways.
First off, WoW's mechanics make it insanely easy to add another race, since you have to make a new character for each race anyways so it wouldn't piss anyone off. Second, the reason why they could just throw another race in there was because your race had absolutely zero bearing on anything in the game. The only places your race even gets noticed is your starting location and your racials, there aren't any quests/missions(WoW doesn't even have an actual story for the game) that even make mention of your race, let alone actually have to do something different for them like in XI.

You're right, they could just throw another race in there. What they couldn't do is make it believable and convince anyone other than the most gullible morons that they weren't completely full of shit for doing that. So, not impossible, but impossible to do it right. Letting you get that light elsewhere, or adding a 6th mob into the AA fights would be retarded; because it would punish/benefit all of those who do them after those who did them before the change. And not just making the fights easier, going to completely different zones or fighting completely different mobs; it'd be crap and that's exactly why they won't do it.

Story is the primary reason they won't add another race, because they'd never do it well. Secondary reasons would be pissing off the player base, but that could be solved by allowing you to change your race; and having to change several quests/missions/maps/mobs just for the race. It's still never going to happen and it might as well be impossible just for that reason.
 
If they ever add a male mithra, I am totally making a mule and naming him Hobbes. :spiteful:
 
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Aliens!
 
First off, WoW's mechanics make it insanely easy to add another race, since you have to make a new character for each race anyways so it wouldn't piss anyone off. Second, the reason why they could just throw another race in there was because your race had absolutely zero bearing on anything in the game. The only places your race even gets noticed is your starting location and your racials, there aren't any quests/missions(WoW doesn't even have an actual story for the game) that even make mention of your race, let alone actually have to do something different for them like in XI.


Wow makes more references to race then FFXI does, and has quite a few race specific things like racials and even one race specific quest. Mechanics is a moot point anyway, true in WoW you have to start a new character for a new class but the ultimate point is why they can't a new race not the probability someone would switch.

FFXI mechanics don't hinder a new race to begin with, it simply hinders people have reason to switch races. Some will regardless, some peeps new to the game will have another choice of race and it might even draw fresh blood. Wow actually has a storyline, and this is setting aside the very well done and rich warcraft story that stretches far beyond FFXI or WoW. In Wow it's told horribly and recently has been butchered, but they do have plot summaries and you do get a general idea of what's going on by related quests.

You're right, they could just throw another race in there. What they couldn't do is make it believable and convince anyone other than the most gullible morons that they weren't completely full of shit for doing that. So, not impossible, but impossible to do it right. Letting you get that light elsewhere, or adding a 6th mob into the AA fights would be retarded; because it would punish/benefit all of those who do them after those who did them before the change. And not just making the fights easier, going to completely different zones or fighting completely different mobs; it'd be crap and that's exactly why they won't do it.

Story is the primary reason they won't add another race, because they'd never do it well. Secondary reasons would be pissing off the player base, but that could be solved by allowing you to change your race; and having to change several quests/missions/maps/mobs just for the race. It's still never going to happen and it might as well be impossible just for that reason.

Yes, I agree with you, the greatest possibility would be it would be done incorrectly. Still, they did a great job with FFXI's story already and I'm sure they could make it work wonderfully. They do a great job adding new areas and explaining why we didn't know sooner and why we can go there now and whatnot.

And it's been done before, Ever Quest 2 just did and as stated wow did a little wow ago. All I'm saying it's been done time and time again, and could be done again here. They wouldn't have to add another AA, those events happened here and with the races here, since what race you currently are means little in the AA fights and nothing else would need to be changed either.

As for the unhappy playerbase, I suppose as crude and assholey as it sounds all I have to say is get over it. Being pissed at the game because you would have to start over to be a Billybob is pretty stupid imo, stop whining and stay or switch. Obviously you can live without the new race since you don't care enough about it to switch without complaining and have been playing without it for a while.

Storywise, I can't see most of the playerbase being unhappy. A large portion don't even care about the story and simply play a mmo, and that's it. (Doesn't hurt that the story missions aren't super easy and require multiple groupings to go through.) Some would accept it as they do the CoP and ToAU story and even some would just be happy to get a new race. Sure, if it was done horribly some would be pissed, but I wouldn't call it an entire playerbase.
 
someone probably already said this, but I only read part of the first page :p

maybe instead of adding new races, just add new face/hair :p
 
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