Win or lose != experience (for you pchan)

I wasn't talking about Salvage, I was referring to his tests on Magic Accuracy. Which weren't done in Salvage.

*To my knowledge
 
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Urat said:
So basically this whole thread boils down to, "pchan we're tired of you talking about salvage, and btw, you're a jerk"

From what I read, this thread is not bringing anything up everyone doesn't already know, and isn't even just a legit flame, more of a... whine...

Ya'll gonna complain about me next? Or do I dancer not chocobos talk waltz about wark things off topic kweeee for you all kweh?

I'm surprised that after a year's worth of epic fails one after another, there has yet to be a "Urat go fuck yourself you noob" thread.

You should really get on that, you know?
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Shut. The. Fuck. Up.

You aren't worth people's time because you're just a stupid kid. I have pointed this out before, and you just did not take it to heart. Think about some of the things you say. If it sounds stupid chance is it's stupid and not worth posting. Sometimes you need to keep your 2 cents to yourself.
 
Miros said:
Surely experience counts for something though right?
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Yes, it does, but it's also doesn't necessarily make you an expert or have to do with testing. It's anecdotal evidence, it can be useful, but it's not the only form of evidence and it's almost always the least important.
 
Bajaratt said:
Except there hasn't been much actual testing, he's just been doing salvage and saying his results. It's the same kind of testing as someone leveling a job to 75 and then giving advice about it.
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He has done a lot of testing and research about a lot of things completely unrelated to Salvage. Magic Accuracy for one, and he was the only one to have done such tests at that time.. He just happens to not post them on QCDN. For several reasons, one being that people don't ask for them.
 
And yes, Pchan can be annoying and arrogant at times, and he have a tendency to sometimes go on your nerves. You just know how to handle him. He's still a good player, just his attitude and personality makes him look like an idiot at times.
 
Uzor said:
And yes, Pchan can be annoying and arrogant at times, and he have a tendency to sometimes go on your nerves. You just know how to handle him. He's still a good player, just his attitude and personality makes him look like an idiot at times.
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I'll agree with this, and the same can be applicable to any number of players, evidently. I don't see the necessity in being "an ok guy" ingame and a complete and utter arrogant fuckwad on a forum, seeing as they are both forms of communication (at least, they use written forms of communication).

Pchan is an okay person to speak with/party with ingame (I only partied with him once, but it was the party I reached 75DRK in), so it baffles me why he is...the way he is on qcdn.
 
Bajaratt said:
he's just been doing salvage
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I've been doing Dynamis forever, Limbus forever, Salvage forever, Nyzul a few weeks because it's a joke to get to floor 100, Einherjar for 1year+ incl many odins, done a few ZnMS up to tier3s...
 
I dont think it's any secret that i think Pchan is an idiot. And im also pretty sure the pchan-salvage rumour comes from me. I did however say Pchan only seems to be able to TALK about salvage and relate any and everything ingame to salvage. Im full aware that he's done any kind of instance.

Anyways, i have to agree with Rappa on thisone. People thinking Pchan is a retard is nothing new, and if thats the only thing being discussed it hardly serves a point. People will think what they think. I'd be the first to argue with Pchan when he says something i think is wrong, but i dont even see that here.

I do however think its funny to say Einherjar is the hardest thing in-game. Sorta surprised noone argued that.
 
I cant really think of something that is harder, usually leave AV out of the question but maybe BV2 without zerging it and without a aegis, vrtra can be up there but with organization you can do that fine. Tiamat, khim, cerb, fafnir/nidhogg darkixion sand worm those are all easy. well not for the shells that keep flameing each other. Sometimes in Tier3 u can just get screwed with bad waves.
 
matchuu said:
Tiamat, khim, cerb, fafnir/nidhogg darkixion sand worm those are all easy.
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Can't really put HnM into the hard part of the game. IIRC Ixion was killed like one day only after it's realease, while for instance, people took 1 month + to first reach wing3 of Einherjar or to beat their first salvage Boss.
 
pchan said:
Can't really put HnM into the hard part of the game. IIRC Ixion was killed like one day only after it's realease, while for instance, people took 1 month + to first reach wing3 of Einherjar or to beat their first salvage Boss.
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It took several days to work out how to pull Ixion, and a while longer to work out a strat for successfully tank/kill him, but it's not really fair to compare the 2. Ixion can be fought continuously until he's killed (if one Ls wipes another can take over), even if he is killed it's only 1 day until he pops again.

Whereas Einherjar can only be entered twice per week, and even winning every time you wont reach wing3 in less than 3 weeks. The time limit on einherjar is also the hardest part of it, and there's no limit on Ixion.
 
pchan said:
Can't really put HnM into the hard part of the game. IIRC Ixion was killed like one day only after it's realease, while for instance, people took 1 month + to first reach wing3 of Einherjar or to beat their first salvage Boss.
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You do know you have to win 6 runs to reach wing 1 and theres a time limit of 1 every 3 days right? Reaching tier 3 in 1 month isn't difficulty, its just time requirement.

As for HNMs, try Vrtra. I don't think he was killed the first day he was up. Hes about the only thing I'd say is harder than tier 3. And tier3 is only hard because of the randomness of it.
 
to reach wing 3*
 
pchan said:
Can't really put HnM into the hard part of the game. IIRC Ixion was killed like one day only after it's realease, while for instance, people took 1 month + to first reach wing3 of Einherjar or to beat their first salvage Boss.
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And einherjar hasnt been nerfed to oblivion since then right?
 
Caerloc said:
And einherjar hasnt been nerfed to oblivion since then right?
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Einherjar hasn't been nerfed at all, you'd know if you did it. The rooms are still has hard/easy to beat. If you couldn't beat a wing3 prior to the update you still can't. If you couldn't poke oding prior to the June update you still can't.
 
pchan said:
Einherjar hasn't been nerfed at all, you'd know if you did it. The rooms are still has hard/easy to beat. If you couldn't beat a wing3 prior to the update you still can't. If you couldn't poke oding prior to the June update you still can't.
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No offcourse it hasnt. The reduction of mob hp, and the change in how mobs link isnt a nerf at all. It actually makes it harder, surely. And the entire good times section doesnt beg to differ about beeing able to reach and killing Odin.

Oh and surely i dont do Einherjar, and i didnt kill Odin way before you.

Christ.
 
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