World History: Europe, Asia, and NA

Raesvelg said:
True. And British food is even worse than American food... /shudder...
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I miss good old fashioned fish an chips, somehow it just dont taste the same over here in north america. Those shops used to be the only thing open late night too, not the healthest food in the world but gawd it tasted good.:wink:
 
Jeska said:
I miss good old fashioned fish an chips, somehow it just dont taste the same over here in north america. Those shops used to be the only thing open late night too, not the healthest food in the world but gawd it tasted good.:wink:
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I don't know why but I really want that on my bedroom wall.
 
Raesvelg said:
True. And British food is even worse than American food... /shudder...
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imma drag yo ass down to New Orleans and show you what real food is supposed to taste like. :cool:

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I honestly gained a newer perspective into the whole JP/NA relationship. but i can help but wonder something. do the ones that dislike us because of our culture even bother to learn about other cultures. I don't know if they teach about Spain, France, or Italy in Japaneses schools or not. The stereotypical image of our countries is whats really holding both of us back. We pay to much attention to the other's flaws then working on thinking around them. The idea of (player base only) servers will fix nothing IMO. it will promote the already existing animosity that has developed over the years. While yes it will make things easier for those that just want to play without hassle, it will still serve the underlying message. I was shocked to read that a massive amount of players quit once the game was released here. The NA players didn't drop the game in large waves when the game was opened in Europe. Even if SE did the same thing like when they started service here and not mentioned it to us we still wouldn't have quit like that.

Japan and the USA are the 2 hotbed countries for online games like this, more or less. Most of the interaction that Japaneses players get is through stupid American youth. In that sense i cant really blame them for their bias against us as players. its all they see. However thats still no excuse. i was glad to read the responses about how JP players who do have bad experiences understand that not all the NA players they will encounter are like that.
 
Raesvelg said:
Not quite as bad as Japan, whose history classes for the 1930-50 time period frequently bear little association with reality.
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What about US history classes and americans making experience on bodies in hiroshima/nagasaki after the bomb, and US systematically napalming japan cities.
 
I read in an (American) exchange student's blog that Japanese believe all foreign languages are English.

Now I'm not sure if she was talking about her peers, or just in general, because she seemed about 14 or 15.
 
pchan said:
What about US history classes and americans making experience on bodies in hiroshima/nagasaki after the bomb, and US systematically napalming japan cities.
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Most half-decent US schools cover that, actually. Most students don't pay attention, but it gets mentioned.

Besides, you forgot the firebombing of German cities as well. And wtf does "making experience on bodies" mean?

Now get back on topic. Or surrender to one of your neighbors. Either of those.
 
Grandphoenix said:
English, Japanese, and German are also supposed to be the top three languages used in our world of international business quite often.
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Isn't Spanish somewhere at the top, at least for commonly spoken languages (outside business)? I thought I heard it was actually ahead of English. I know it's actually supposed to be gaining ground on English in the US.
 
Ewok said:
Isn't Spanish somewhere at the top, at least for commonly spoken languages (outside business)? I thought I heard it was actually ahead of English. I know it's actually supposed to be gaining ground on English in the US.
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Spanish is mostly common in the Americas and parts of Europe. Commonly spoken, but not a "universal" language. French used to be considered one, but got eclipsed back some 20-30 years ago by English. German remains common for technical professions, and business to a lesser extent. Japanese is fairly common for business, though less so than during the Japanese bubble economy.
 
pchan said:
What about US history classes and americans making experience on bodies in hiroshima/nagasaki after the bomb, and US systematically napalming japan cities.
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We learn about that. We also learn that Hiroshima/Nagasaki prevented the war from being dragged out even further and prevented millions more deaths from an invasion of Japan by Allied troops.

Does Japan's schools teach Baton death march, Nan jing or Unit 731 or their various attempts at attacking western US?
 
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Actually, you're all wrong. The order, last I checked, goes Mandarin > English > Hindi > Spanish... with German and French trailing somewhere down the list. This is of course speaking in terms of population and not considering academic or economic use. You'll find that most of the Nodel Peace Prizes for literature for example, have gone to either English or French writers.

But I digresss... let us reflect for a moment on Australian history. In 1788, the British formed a penal colony here and then nothing happened for 220 years. The end. Oh wait, we got into to some wars along the way that had nothing to do wth us, but that's only because we wanted the Americans to like us.
 
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peaceful farmers!
 
Pastry said:
We learn about that. We also learn that Hiroshima/Nagasaki prevented the war from being dragged out even further and prevented millions more deaths from an invasion of Japan by Allied troops.
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So killing 200,000 innocent civillians prevented a lot of deaths. I see. wow.
 
Neisan said:
40 Acres and a mule
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What about it? The fact that Sherman just wanted to get rid of a set number of refugees that were trailing his army, or that Johnson revoked it almost immediately after Lincoln's assassination?

Contrary to some really bizarre beliefs, there was never any mule promised, nor was it a general offer. It was a few hundred thousand or so acres of land, designated for a specific number of families. Not an open offer for any slave.

Pchan said:
So killing 200,000 innocent civillians prevented a lot of deaths. I see. wow.
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Considering what most projections were calling for in casualties from an invasion of mainland Japan, yes. Projections ranged from a couple million or so up to as much as 14 million, assuming Japanese morale held.

Honestly, we're way off topic and if Pchan doesn't tone down the rhetoric some, we're gonna have to start bringing up French involvement in the Holocaust.
 
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Raesvelg said:
And wtf does "making experience on bodies" mean?
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*insert really really bad joke about Chain 200k from Greater Colibri here*

Altheya said:
Somehow this thread just had to go there... WWII I mean. I guess I should conduct my obligatory 'hate JP' session now....
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Hey, at least it got redirected from being Godwin'd.
 
pchan said:
So killing 200,000 innocent civillians prevented a lot of deaths. I see. wow.
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It did.

Way more people were killed in the fire bombings throughout Japan, and they would have continued had we not nuked them. Plus, pretty much the whole nation was dug in for defense, so both military's would have suffered humongous losses had we actually invaded. Nuking them wasn't a good thing, but it was the best option at the time, the one that led to the least death on both sides. All of that was covered in US history classes, we didn't gloss over the stuff that casts us in a bad light, despite what you're stupidly believing.

Try having a clue what you're talking about before you post, it'll be a novel experience for you.
 
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