Wtf...

That's why i like to check out the party as soon as i get into it...WHM/MNK or {Anon} would be a huge red flag.
 
Ninja Edit: Would a MNK subjob have contributed to an increase in MND? I know MND is in general used for Chi Blast and Chakra, but possible he gets a subtance MND increase from sub?

Not trying to dig for excusses, but I just happened to thing about that. (Also, if it's a nub question, that's b/c it is, never leveled MNK, so I wouldn't know lol)
 
Selph said:
Ninja Edit: Would a MNK subjob have contributed to an increase in MND? I know MND is in general used for Chi Blast and Chakra, but possible he gets a subtance MND increase from sub?

Not trying to dig for excusses, but I just happened to thing about that. (Also, if it's a nub question, that's b/c it is, never leveled MNK, so I wouldn't know lol)
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It's vitality for Chakra.

Also I would think BLM gives more mnd than mnk would. Basically /mnk is useless I don't give a shit if he does a good job he could do a better job with /blm, /smn, or /rdm.
 
romperstomper said:
It's vitality for Chakra.

Also I would think BLM gives more mnd than mnk would. Basically /mnk is useless I don't give a shit if he does a good job he could do a better job with /blm, /smn, or /rdm.
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/mnk isn't nessisarally usless - dodge counter chakra thoes would be extremly usefull to a good whm. Like someone before said its how you play the job and wheather it accomplishes the over all goal
 
Arkangel said:
/mnk isn't nessisarally usless - dodge counter chakra thoes would be extremly usefull to a good whm. Like someone before said its how you play the job and wheather it accomplishes the over all goal
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Why the hell would counter and dodge by useful? WHM has stoneskin AND blink which are more useful than a boost to evasion. Not to forget the only time a whm should really be hit is by AoE so counter becomes useless. I could see chakra being helpful after devotion to recover HP that was transfered over.

They might be good, but they're missing a lot of things from /rdm or /blm. Conserve MP, Fast Cast, Dispel, and Tractor just off the top of my head.
 
romperstomper said:
Why the hell would counter and dodge by useful? WHM has stoneskin AND blink which are more useful than a boost to evasion. Not to forget the only time a whm should really be hit is by AoE so counter becomes useless. I could see chakra being helpful after devotion to recover HP that was transfered over.

They might be good, but they're missing a lot of things from /rdm or /blm. Conserve MP, Fast Cast, Dispel, and Tractor just off the top of my head.
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If you think /rdm is good for a whm in exp setups... you make my head hurt. REALLY bad.

/facepalm
 
I'd take a WHM/RDM over a WHM/MNK any day.
 
Linhjah said:
I'd take a WHM/RDM over a WHM/MNK any day.
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I would too. I wouldn't even consider it heresy ... just a less-than-optimal situation.

WHM/MNK, however? No. They go, or I do.
 
Bluefrost said:
The Fast Cast you get on /RDM is really nice (noticeable), but I still will always pick blm sub over rdm.
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Awesome whm's think alike! /BLM forev3r! :wink: I like conserve MP much more than auto-refresh.
 
Arkangel said:
/mnk isn't nessisarally usless - dodge counter chakra thoes would be extremly usefull to a good whm. Like someone before said its how you play the job and wheather it accomplishes the over all goal
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Was this a serious post?
 
jyakotsu said:
If you think /rdm is good for a whm in exp setups... you make my head hurt. REALLY bad.

/facepalm
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I've done merit pts with friends where I opted with /rdm on my whm for both the fast cast, and for the fact I can dispel. With a brd puller who can sometimes have pretty large amount of links to handle, or may be busy, tossing out a dispel can be great, and if you know you can keep your mp up, why not?

Don't always need to go with the cookie cutter setup, sometimes the odd option is the best option.
 
/blm for viable conserve MP is better, im sorry.

If a whm relies on /rdm for fast cast like some said, then go grab a pair of rostrum pumps, then go /blm.

If its for dispel, then that is something different, however as a /rdm.... you will have a decent % chance of wasting mp on a resist >.>;

If you honestly think that /rdm is better than /blm in an exp setup(Versus in specific scenarios, such as in Daveman's one or two exp setups)... i'm sorry you fail.
 
btw, who the fuck is Sagis... Rated me down saying that RDM sub is always better than BLM sub for WHM.

Whoever the fuck you are, you sockpuppet... You fail.
 
Fast Cast from /rdm is actually very noticeable. Depending on what you're doing I could see it as a viable alternative to /blm. And for the "grab a pair of rostrums" argument, you act like those don't stack with FC from /rdm. Or to counter with an equally stupid comment to prove my point, grab a magnetic earring if you want conserve mp so bad.
 
"Dude, I'm so high right now."

"Dude, me too, i'm tanking as WAR/PLD."

"Oh, man, you suck; you should be /MNK..../MNK rocks!

"Dude, you should totally sub MNK on yer WHM"

"LMAO who the fuck would invite me???"

"Shit, somebody out there is just that fucking stupid."
 
jyakotsu said:
If you honestly think that /rdm is better than /blm in an exp setup(Versus in specific scenarios, such as in Daveman's one or two exp setups)... i'm sorry you fail.
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Through *my* readings, nobody said it was a catch-all "better than /blm" setup. I would have thought the FC and +MND would actually make it at least a clean tradeoff with /blm, but that's just me.
 
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