Your orb your drop bullshit

meeze said:
Well, I always liked your orb your drops, mainly because I don't feel like handing out 130k/6. It is retarded. Cut all the bullshit, and man up, all or nothing.
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When I set up runs we only split the stuff worth splitting, we don't bother cutting anything less than 500k or so, depending on how inflation is at the time. YOYD is the only way to go with a pick up group, if you're with 5 strangers you're better off taking what you get.
 
i've done BCNM's and KS30 both ways. and its worked for me both ways. both styles have potential problems so there is no use arguing about them. agree upon what style you're gonna go with before hand, YoYd or split, and cross your fingers. you can get da good stuff or total crap no matter what.

/em makes a note to screw over mire for leaving da DRG behind. :mad:
 
Bajaratt said:
I honestly hate the your orb, your drop system; that's why I don't go on runs that do it. I feel bad for the people that get utterly shit drops while I would walk away with 2 mil; or I'd get nothing while everyone else gets millions.
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I feel the same way, In my case, If I get a a million or more in a bcnm/ksnm, I give 100k or so to one member that got nothing from the bcnm, last time I did a PCC bcnm, I got the PCC, my friend Embra got nothing on her orb, so I told her ill give her 200k when the PCC sold. I'm not greedy, maybe thats why I'm always broke. lol
 
Well, Ive done a lot of YOYD's. I know what Im getting into when I do them. Yeah, Ive wasted just as many KS's and BS's as you (up in the couple of hundreds) and I get shit drops on my orb. I just say 'oh well'

But also, sometimes when we organize LS BC/KSNM runs, we bring however many orbs we all want, (goin back and forth after orbs run dry) and just split all drops between us.
 
Back when Galkalegend was around, we static'd Jungle Boogeyman lv60 in Sacrificial Chamber for the torques.

For a while, we split the drops. Even though we got 500k-1mil (big money 2 years ago) on 90% of our runs, we still split for some reason.

It became too stressfull / people getting impatient on things waiting to sell.

So we started YOYD after that I believe. lol

Man, I miss those runs.
 
own orb own drops= how khi makes bigger profits from guarranteed drop bcnms
 
Not really. Some have a chance at more items dropping like the BCNM 20s for Mann Pieces. One can be a 100% drop and the others can drop with a small % rate. So it's still a gamble.
 
Myrrh said:
Not really. Some have a chance at more items dropping like the BCNM 20s for Mann Pieces. One can be a 100% drop and the others can drop with a small % rate. So it's still a gamble.
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Yep sometimes there are bonuses to the guarranteed drop which can add up=)

You have to give me certain hell or vice versa for me to split cash(read: Zeo, Imbris, Sekehmet, Kipa, Tarn, Darthyoda,etc...)

I'm always short on cash I've been known to just give money drops away because they are my friends plus I plan on a shorter scale in comparison to most so out of 2.5 days I really dont want to bore myself farming so bst gets the cash I need for me.
 
I was always one for over thinking things, as some/most of you gathered from my usual number laden posts.

When I do BC's there's sometimes issues because I am with a good friend that doesn't have an orb that I need THIER help with. thus I feel that they should be properly compensated.

If 3-6 people are doing thier job properly, and all putting in the same effort, then all parties should be entitled to the same earnings.

That's my opinion, and now my general solution:
(Yay numbers..)

Let's take "Under Observation" as the example:

Assume the following:

1) 50% of the work of getting to the BC, is getting the seals in the first place.
2) Assume everyone in the group is a crucial member, and taking part in the BC.

Now Break the Orbs in the following manner:

Each Battle = 2 points: 1 point for participation, and 1 point for bringing an orb.

So, if all people bring an orb:


Run 1: 3 people, 3 Orbs, 3 battles:
Person 1: 6
Person 2: 6
Person 3: 6
Total Shares: 18
Loot: 6,000,000 G

For Run 1, there are 18 possible shares (333,333 & 1/3 G/share).
If 6,000,000 G worth of items drop, each member gets 2 mil.

Run 2: 3 people, 2 orbs, 2 battles:
Person 1: 4
Person 2: 4
Person 3: 2
Redistribution: 2
Loot: 6,000,000 G

For the Run 2, there were 12 possible shares (500k G/share), the shares that consitute the "Brought an orb" portion of the shares are redistributed.
If 6,000,000 G worth of items drop this time, 2 members get 2.5 mil, and the Helper gets a mil.

On larger 6 man runs, if 1 person's helping and the others are orbing:

Run 3: 6 people, 5 orbs, 5 battles:
Person 1: 10
Person 2: 10
Person 3: 10
Person 4: 10
Person 5: 10
Person 6: 5
Redistribution: 5
Loot: 12,000,000 G

Run 3 is 60 possible shares (200k G/share).
After the redistribution, 5 players get 2 mil, and the helper gets 1 mil.

If 4 people brought orbs, then you'd have 48 possible shares, Orb holders get 8 shares each, helpers get 4 shares each, and 4 shares go back to the orb holders, etc...

Yes, it takes a little work...
Yes, it takes time to sell shit...
In the end people all get a fair payout, and there's no room for arguement.
 
The OP loses. You have the choice not to participate under such conditions. You chose to roll the dice. You lost. Your fault. Don't complain.
 
I never got how people could join pick up groups for BC/KS. And not just for drops and fairness but also just to win the damn thing. You never know who can fuck up in some unimaginable way that will be Good Times worthy.

Sell and split with LS/Friends, only way to go. Or solo XD
 
Veresko said:
I never got how people could join pick up groups for BC/KS. And not just for drops and fairness but also just to win the damn thing. You never know who can fuck up in some unimaginable way that will be Good Times worthy.

Sell and split with LS/Friends, only way to go. Or solo XD
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It's really not that hard to explain battle tactics, and to choose your group wisely. If you pick up a first timer, you make ABSOLUTELY SURE that person knows his/her part. Or they don't come.

If I had to wait on LS members, I'd be waiting forever. My social LS just sucks when it comes to bc/ks's. I'm not talking trash, just being honest. They don't seem to have interest in them.
 
The fact that you're pissed because items don't drop surprise me that you haven't quit this hell hole of a game already.

Go die in a hole you ungrateful bastard. You're lucky to even have an honest group to run with that doesn't lot on your shit.
 
*only read op* I know feeling, don't know how many pcc run ive done and the person after me get one but I never do. I still like yoyd especially for pick up parties, because I just don't like people I don't know holding my money.
 
Phraust said:
I was always one for over thinking things, as some/most of you gathered from my usual number laden posts.

When I do BC's there's sometimes issues because I am with a good friend that doesn't have an orb that I need THIER help with. thus I feel that they should be properly compensated.

If 3-6 people are doing thier job properly, and all putting in the same effort, then all parties should be entitled to the same earnings.

That's my opinion, and now my general solution:
(Yay numbers..)

Let's take "Under Observation" as the example:

Assume the following:

1) 50% of the work of getting to the BC, is getting the seals in the first place.
2) Assume everyone in the group is a crucial member, and taking part in the BC.

Now Break the Orbs in the following manner:

Each Battle = 2 points: 1 point for participation, and 1 point for bringing an orb.

So, if all people bring an orb:


Run 1: 3 people, 3 Orbs, 3 battles:
Person 1: 6
Person 2: 6
Person 3: 6
Total Shares: 18
Loot: 6,000,000 G

For Run 1, there are 18 possible shares (333,333 & 1/3 G/share).
If 6,000,000 G worth of items drop, each member gets 2 mil.

Run 2: 3 people, 2 orbs, 2 battles:
Person 1: 4
Person 2: 4
Person 3: 2
Redistribution: 2
Loot: 6,000,000 G

For the Run 2, there were 12 possible shares (500k G/share), the shares that consitute the "Brought an orb" portion of the shares are redistributed.
If 6,000,000 G worth of items drop this time, 2 members get 2.5 mil, and the Helper gets a mil.

On larger 6 man runs, if 1 person's helping and the others are orbing:

Run 3: 6 people, 5 orbs, 5 battles:
Person 1: 10
Person 2: 10
Person 3: 10
Person 4: 10
Person 5: 10
Person 6: 5
Redistribution: 5
Loot: 12,000,000 G

Run 3 is 60 possible shares (200k G/share).
After the redistribution, 5 players get 2 mil, and the helper gets 1 mil.

If 4 people brought orbs, then you'd have 48 possible shares, Orb holders get 8 shares each, helpers get 4 shares each, and 4 shares go back to the orb holders, etc...

Yes, it takes a little work...
Yes, it takes time to sell shit...
In the end people all get a fair payout, and there's no room for arguement.
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you right you do over think it:wink:
very nice presentacion though I like.
 
Xean said:
The OP loses. You have the choice not to participate under such conditions. You chose to roll the dice. You lost. Your fault. Don't complain.
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I totally agree. Back when Langly and I would do PCC BCNMs for people, we had a set amount of rules and people could follow those rules or not go. It's that easy. It's not like people choose to decide differently suddenly in the middle of battle.

(in case someones ask, our rules were:

1. If PCC drops, it's yours. We'll take donations though.
2. Any other high item drop is split between the three of us.
3. Trash items are given to orb holder.
4. Losing sucks, bite the bullet & get over it. We're not responsible for any lost orbs.)
 
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