Zeni NM's and lotting rules..?

[Ruffyreborn]

I don't understand this post:
http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=60164

Not a beef with anyone, but why would you take other peoples drops? Sure, youre helping the popper kill the NM's, but everyone has an equal pop chance. Is this just a ply to capitalize on other peoples pops? I dont see a reason for this, really.

Dynamis, Sky and Einherjar I understand. Those events require gil to enter/pay for items acquired, which I assume most LS's pay from their bank to help other members. Whats the reasoning behind taking other peoples drops from the final tier Zeni NM's?

 

[Tyrath]

It makes sense for me for the popper to pick 1 item from their pop where an alliance fight is concerned. Not to mention, the way ZNMs work, you can just as easily share seals between many diff people to work towards popping something big a lot faster than 1 person alone could.

 

[Lackey]

Eh. personally i think if you are putting the work into a pop for an NM for just gear, it should be yours.

Example: Say you pop the automaton NM cause you want the items for PUP because you are leveling it. It may be relatively easy to get the pop item because of lower zeni cost, but it would suck if you got outlotted by some guy who is just going to sell the item for some quick cash.

Just my opinion on it. It doesn't really matter though. If people agree they will join, if they don't agree then they won't join.

 

[Olrox]

I guess no one understands my wording, let me explain.... The "Kirin" of Zeni NMS will more than likely have a selection of drops across all jobs... as does Kirin. Now for one person to get N body D body Osode etc.. I mean of course everyone potentially HAS a chance to pop.. well we as an LS had to work towards and defeat the final boss, which probably won't be happening daily. ALSO, if you look at it like this.. say you have a kirin popset and you have your end game LS pop Kirin for you, you usually get to choose any 1 item you would like, and the rest would go to other Ls mates with good attendance to further progress the shell and keep morale up.

Does it make sense to let a BLM take the DD body the Tank body piece and his Mage body? no.. (mind you I do not know exact drops of Pandemonium or w/e)

EDIT: yes lower NMs are going to be your pop/drop but I am talking more about the final Tier.

second EDIT: THE ITEMS DO NOT GO TO ME because I am leader, I am not ripping off or stealing from anyone, it is to be dispersed to LS mates properly.

 

[Ruffyreborn]

Its not a personal beef or anything, I was just curious is all. I understand your methods a bit better, now, though. I personally, however, would not allow any of the final tier gear to go to anyone that did not bring a pop item. Thats just me, personally. Would make sense to allow ALL poppers to choose their one item, then "get in queue" for additional items from other peoples pops, unless they choose to keep the item in queue.

Thanks for the clarification

 

[Olrox]

Yeah I agree I'm not looking for any freeloaders. But I'm thinking by the time we get to the point of the Final NM, there will be tons of people either close to another pop or doing as much popping as one can to earn another set, so it all comes with time.

 

[Dayner]

i think its better to be "your pop , your lot" for low and maybe the easy mid tiers ZNM

pop items is easy to farm anyway

 

[Olrox]

if ya read my LS recruitment post... it says that, please read it first here i'll make a link to it sheesh, http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=60164