Zhayolm Remnants: getting past gears twice

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It's easy to sac pull the gears in order to get to the floor 5 NM.

But how do you get out? Suppose there weren't any fanatic's drinks in the chests, and we only have one thief.
 
Got a pld with 2Hr?
 
Nah, i don't want to bring a PLD into salvage.
 
Powder boots and reraise. brd can RR multiple times easiest so they're ideal i suppose.
It's harder when you don't know the pathway but once you do have the way memorized you can make it to around the chariot before death. get to door, probably die, RR up when it's clear and go up
I can make it there on thf so technically your thf can make it over but as i said before, if you are unfamiliar with the pathway you're gonna waste flee time figuring out which way to go.
 
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THF use flee and dies by door. dont need PD, also half the time he wont even die and warp up to 6F.
 
If you are desperate and have no THF in your LS (it must suck) you can still do it with a rdm or any job with stoneskin/mvt speed. Die at door and reraise. It's quick but i'm sure you can think of a longer method that doesn't imply dieing.
 
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I've also seen mnks with full arhats, earth staff, minne make the trip and not die D:
 
Even easier now when any mnk can get movementspeed.
 
Another way is to have the thf flee and pull all the gears with him/her. Then a second player run right behind them to warp up. This would work if you do not have a bard or if your mages had a small death while fighting the NM.
 
or if you have time , you can kill the train gears

*edit* opss wrong gears >_>
ya reraise will do the trick
 
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Depending what you do for the run in general depends on how I do it with the group I lead. Right now i'm working on a new strategy to allow us to do 3 frogs + Boss, but the way we do it in general with just a general 3 frog 35 farm run is...Everyone in general has what they want/need...magic/sub/weapon/armor etc...and I (75 THF) will start out with a flee and Perfect Dodge at the start when heading to the frog to farm for 35s, I then die on top of the stairs out of aggro range, raised up and than we kill the frog. After that when i'm unweakened I have someone follow me just in case I go down, but usually I have enough shadows, earth staff, and my 12% boots to insure me to get out in front of the mobs enough to aggro them and last all theway to the chariot and more. Since the 2nd person is following me just in case I go down, I usually have them go through the door for me to prevent from gettin smacked around and dieing in a bad spot. As long as someone has a 12%+ movement item than they can outrun the gears fine, and if someone follows to go through the door for them, than it works fine. Depending on what you believe or how much you prioritize TH3 or 4, I have known people to just use the thf to flee all the way to the door with reraise up. If you get to the door, even with the chariot not to far away from you than you can raise up safely and go up after the main group kills the frog. Hope it helps, take care

-Dragod
 
Now that charm has been weakened, doing 5+6+boss is ok. 2 melees + a healer can do 5+6 np even.

However the safest way is probably to hit the 4F north frog then 5,6 and boss. You need to hit it <30 minutes. The way we do it is kill the 4 inner rooms on 1F, farm minimal on 2F (incl. poping dupe frog and the imp NM). We usually warp at ~ 23 minutes on 3F. 2 monks would then hundred fist the first 2 stats rooms and kill as much as possible in the third room until time limit.

Even if you don't have enaugh cells to unlock 3 persons, the MMJ on next floors drop stats cell except MP so it's all good (and you can reload the floors three times).
 
Sorry for the necro, but there is another way to do the gears. When the thf PD and flees the gears the first time, you can send one person off to the next room. The gears move in a pattern. Having sneak will let you past the rampart once you have the move pattern for the gears. Sending someone off to the door when you sac pull should save about 5 minutes over all. We have tried this successfully in the shell I run in.
 
I guess we have a strange strategy that works for us but prolly doesnt work for all and it involves no death (unless we screw up) on either section.

When we start we have a thf PD but not flee and agro everything. While this is occuring everyone else goes straight to the frog and gets started. When there is about 5-10 sec left on the PD the thf turns around and flees right through all the mobs he just agroed and joins us on the frog kill. By time he gets to the room with the frog he normally drops all the gears and if he doesnt then we have the frog in the corner anyways and the gears dont bother us.

Then when we go to leave i on mnk/war put up double minnes, defender, focus, dodge all my arhats +1, hp gear, mantra, terras staff, fresh protect, phalanx 2 and my hermes sandals and blaze the path with the thf following me. The key with the boots on is really just not to stop moving. I voke the chariot when i get to it and the thf floors us because he followed me the whole time with his trotter boots on while i agroed everything. Normally the thf can floor us before i die to all the mobs i trained and no one dies on the floor at all.
 
what kery says doesnt work when there is weather in the zone unfortunatly. otherwise you have to rely on someone with mvt speed (rdm thf) to warp up.

There is a strategt similar to what dejavu says: THF aggro flee gear /o PD and pull them back where you warped to, wait gear to enter the room. Use pd and runin the NM room in a far corner. the gear always lose hate on the stairs due to height difference.
 
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