A big problem.

Trippyhippy

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So I have this friend, right?

This friend has 1 child, and 1 more on the way. He is not married to the mother, but they do live together. His problem is that he cheats on his girl all the time. Lets call him john.

Then I have this other friend. She is getting a divorce very soon. Her husband is an alcoholic and adicted to pornography (like... beats it till it bleeds). I personally think he's been cheating on her for a while, but that's a different story. This friend has a child as well. We'll call her jane.

So about 10 years ago jane met who is now her husband. Her husband had herpes and didn't tell her. I knew, and I didn't tell her, as I figured it isn't my responsibility. So now Jane has herpes and is single again.

Jane and john go out to a bar one night with a group of friends, and come home wanting to be more than friends, even though both have children and another person they have committed theirself to.

But they are both feeling the connection. So sitting in the car outside my house, the start to fool around a bit. Things heat up, and it ends up going a bit further than it should and they pleasure each other oraly. But there is a problem. Jane never told john she had herpes.

Now jane has been around since I was a little kid. She is actually to blame for most of my shinanigans as she is the one that dropped me on my head when I was less than a year old. John is actually a couple of years younger than me. I've known him for aout 10 years. I love both people as though they were a brother or a sister respectivly.

Jane told me nothin happened as far as doing anything that could give john herpes. John tells me a different story. John also got extremely upset at me for not telling him a long time ago.

Now from Jane's point of view, I betrayed her trust by telling him.

From johns point of view, I betrayed his trust by not telling him soon enough.

Now, me personally, I don't fuck unless I am either fully prepared to raise a child or fully prepared to pay for an abortion. Jane needs to realize that she can't be "single" in the way she was before she met her husband who gave her herpes. John needs to realize that he made a commitment when he agreed to father children from this other poor girl that gets cheated on all the time.

So... what do I do? I don't want these people to hate me for the rest of their lives. I suppose both of them need to understand that there is a reason why I have privelaged information about the other one. It's because they both trust me not to do anything with that information to harm them. Yet both of them still want me to tell all secrets about the other.

The way I see it, they are basiclly asking me to choose who I am better friends with. Sadly there is much more to the story on both sides. If anyone has any advice or is interested at all, let me know, i'll continue.
 
A CONDOM DO YOU NEED IT MOTHER FUCKER

It's their fault for doing it without protection. - .-;
 
John should be thanking you for telling him before he spread it to his pregnent girl. Also, did John ask you if Jane had anything before fooling around? If not, he can only blame himself and Jane for not telling. Not as if you could know he was going to sleep around with her.
 
Trippyhippy said:
They didn't have sex. They had oral Sex.

My bad. The way you put it it sounded like they had sex and he got herpes from it.

I got herpes from a broken condom. How bad does that suck?

Anyway, so John has herpes visible on his mouth or something? He may not have anything..

Edit: Oh, and Rones speaks the truth.
 
Rones said:
John should be thanking you for telling him before he spread it to his pregnent girl. Also, did John ask you if Jane had anything before fooling around? If not, he can only blame himself and Jane for not telling. Not as if you could know he was going to sleep around with her.

About 2 months ago, jane told me john was a "Hottie". I told john right after jane told me. John thinks I should have told him then.

But in all honesty, I have a lot of respect for Jane. I didn't think she would do that with anyone just yet, as she isn't divorced yet. I also figured that she would share this information.
 
no offense.. but I really hate people like them x.x (well Jane's husband and your friend john and anyone else like that with their partners... oh well). Sorry that this is troubling you so much though. Maybe you should sit them both down and tell them your feelings on the matter? if they'll be that reasonable that is x.x
 
Well, the thing about John cheating...

He met this girl when he was in high School, she will be 20 this year. He is 23 now. When she got pregnant for the first time 2 years ago, john was in total shock. Why? Because Johns girl friend was supposedly on 2 different types of Birth Control.

John has told his girl on multiple occasions he doesn't love her anymore and the only reason he's still with her is the child (now Children). But they keep having sex just the same. She keeps getting pregnant just the same. This is her 4th time being pregnant as she has had 2 miscarriages.

Because john isn't actually married, he doesn't see it as cheating, but he still won't tell his woman what he does every weekend at the bar.

She isn't totally stupid. If she doesn't see what is going on, it's because she doesn't want to. The only reason john still lives with her is beause he loves his kid.

I can't make him understand that one of the best things you can do for a child is give it a healthy family to grow up with.
 
Hmm...castrate John. Problem solved. He won't cheat anymore. John's girl won't catch it.

I really have no sympathy for people that can't control their urges and desires.
 
Rones said:
Hmm...castrate John. Problem solved. He won't cheat anymore. John's girl won't catch it.

I really have no sympathy for people that can't control their urges and desires.

Not everyone can be a gleaming pillar of strength like you and I are rones :biggrin:

But the main point I was trying to make there with the story about john and his girl is that I think she lied to him about birth control and pretty much has him buy it so she can flush it down the drain. I think she gets pregnant on purpose so he won't leave her.
 
Rones said:
Hmm...castrate John. Problem solved. He won't cheat anymore. John's girl won't catch it.

I really have no sympathy for people that can't control their urges and desires.

I agree with this.. people need more damn self control :\
 
Trippyhippy said:
But the main point I was trying to make there with the story about john and his girl is that I think she lied to him about birth control and pretty much has him buy it so she can flush it down the drain. I think she gets pregnant on purpose so he won't leave her.
You would think he would catch on after the 2nd kid...At that point he shouldn't feel guilty dumping her. She caused the problem through her own poor logic, let her deal with it. Fine time for him to run for Canada/Mexico and start over.
 
Such a tangled web we weave...

I suppose I'll wait till he gets tested before I decide what I'm gonna do. It really just sucks that I'm in the middle of it.

The thing that bothers me most is the their attitude towards me. Untill recently, I though Jane and I had a relationship based on truth where we could tell each other anything. Now I find out she lied to me about what she did with john, and I also found out she lied to me when she married her husband. She had acted like he just couldn't wait to get married. His side of the story was that she gave him an ultimatum(sp?)... marry her, or it's over. That 's the only reason he married her in the first place.

John is just pissed because I didn't tell him before I did. But I made sure to let him know that none of this would have ever happened if he could keep his cock in his pants.
 
I think you should explain the situation to both of them at the same time, the way you explained it to us. Reguardless of wether or not john has Herpes now, it should be a big eye opener. Make sure that it is for both of them.

It the case of john cheating on his girl, they should seek counseling both as a pair and individually. If you already know thats not going to happen, its time for John to break it off with her, because although he loves his children, it will have a negative effect on them later if they figure out how their dad treated their mom. As it stands, they're already bastards, but that doesn't mean they will necessarily grow up with a warped sense of morals. John should understand that he has already set the stage for emotional damage in his children and if he really loves them, now is the time to act. Either by leaving their mother or staying and stop cheating. The damage is done, there is no need for them to grow up in a house with parents that emotionally abuse each other.

As for Jane. Her life has just changed in a big way, and because of that I can feel a little sympathy for her actions. Comming out of a relationship at that age often leaves a person clueless to the proper conduct of adults in her situation. She hasn't dated for a while, and had never been confronted with a situation where there even was a need to explain her illness. However, with this situation, her eyes can open and she can see the impact of her actions first hand. Not the best way to go about learning these things, but its not like she gets to pick the moment anymore, its already happened.

Reguardless of what happens, I wish you luck with this sticky situation. I'm glad I'm not in it.
 
I think that Bigboy brings out a lot of really good points. What John also probably doesn't realize is that by doing what he is doing to his girlfriend, he is planting seeds of adultery into his children. They are sponges and whether or not he wants to realize it, they more than likely see or hear everything that goes on. He loves his children so much? He should grow up and make better decisions. As Bigboy previously stated, he and his girlfriend should seek help. Or they shouldn't be together if they are not in love. It will make a much happier and healthier home.
 
You betrayed John's trust? No, I don't buy that. I think that's an excuse for him being unable to take responsibility.(?)

I hate when friends or lovers try to get you to pick a side between them and someone else.

Here's a good self control technique, relay this to him. You take a basketball and a fire hydrant and- HEY WHAT THE ::MMF: *is gagged and dragged off by several men in white*
 
Trippyhippy said:
The way I see it, they are basiclly asking me to choose who I am better friends with. Sadly there is much more to the story on both sides. If anyone has any advice or is interested at all, let me know, i'll continue.


Umm... I know you love em and all... but wtf? get new friends man.

sorry , thats just how I see it.
 
You didn't have sex with either John or Jane.
You didn't set them up so they could have sex with each other.
They didn't come to you asking for advice/information/gossip about the other person.
They didn't come to you and say "i want to fuck 'so-and-so', do they have any diseases?".

How could you possibly have seen this coming and been able to warn them while their pants were still on?
 
Trippy did say something about one of them coming to him months before saying that they liked the other person, didn't he? Hmm anyways.. castration (female and male for them all D: ) seems best
 
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