A Message to Newbies from Alla

Coustain

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I found this on the Alla website and thought it was funny yet true for some of the newbies I have had the mispleasure of encountering.

Hello New Player:

Welcome to FFXI! We are very happy to have you on-board: the influx of new players into the game is what sustains the vibrant FFXI community. I am not the most experienced player in this game, and I am not the best player in this game. So I write as "one of you", a relatively new player who's had considerable success making my way in Van'Diel. I have some strategies for making money, I've learned a bit about a few NMs, and I also know a thing or two about experience points parties. So I humbly offer some advice that has helped me get through my FFXI career to this point:

1. First, if your PT is getting 1.5k exp per hour, it sucks. Time to shake things up! If you are the leader of this party, that should serve as an indication that you've either picked the wrong combination of jobs, or someone isn't doing their job properly. So when the third White Mage in your PT indicates that he needs a replacement, don't replace him with another White Mage! Ask yourself: "what is my party lacking?" And act accordingly.

2. Second, when someone with a rank 10, 9, 8, 7, 6 and, to a lesser extent, 5, gives you some friendly advice about how to do your job, hear them out. The chances are they know what they're saying and that your game will only improve by listening to them. That's how I improve; listening to more experienced players give me tips and tricks on doing my job better.

3. If you are, say, an RDM, and you have a PT replete with Nins or NIn subs and a WHM, ask yourself two questions: why am I healing, and why do I have so much MP? The answer to this question is that you are basically useless to your pt, and are wasting your MP on healing when you should be nuking. When the WHM offers you some advice to this effect, and you continue to heal players who have full HP, that means that you suck. And the problem outlined in point # 1 is probably in no small part of your doing. To correct this problem before it becomes a habit, please follow point # 2.

4. Gil is one of those words in the English language for which you need not add an "s" or a "z" when pluralizing. "Gilz" and "Gils" are akin to saying "yous" and "we's".

5. There is no need to insert <call1> through <call3> into your provoke or Cure Macros. I know you are curing or provoking because an animation appears on my screen: scaring the beejesus out of me every time you perform a basic function is not conducive to generating good team spirit. We all enjoy the sounds in this game, so please don't ruin it for us by forcing your party mates to turn off their speaker volume.

6. Asking for GIL is akin to spitting on the Pope in a crowd full of Catholics. If you do it, especially in /say or /shout mode, you shall wear a "Newbatross" around your neck for much of your in-game career. If you also pluralize Gil while shouting about how badly you need it, that "Newbatross" shall simply overwhelm you.

7. Some people ask: is it ok for me to do things around the house and talk on MSN Messenger or the telephone while playing FFXI? The answer, of course, is "Yes, absolutely"! This is just a game and it's YOUR time to relax. That said, it not ok to do the aforementioned activities while in a group with other players. This is a community game, and if you decide to have intercourse with your dog in my pt, you are not only wasting your own time but also the time of everyone else in your pt. So please, if you are distracted, do some solo work: farm, craft, or level a lower leveler character.

8. Going afk is a normal part of life. Only the hardcore end-game crowd use piss-jugs like truckers. That said, the urge to defecate only rarely comes about suddenly. If this happens to you frequently, then please see a doctor; I am not a health care professional, but I've seen on TV commercials that "going problems" are often actually "growing problems". Nonetheless, if you notice that a few people in your pt are going afk for whatever reason, that represents a good time to relieve yourself as well. There is little benefit of holding it in until those players return, and then going afk yourself a few minutes later.

9. No need at all to put macros in shout mode. You are "casting your divine power on <t> to replenish their life-giving essence"? You are using "Nitro Booster to Run with the Chocos?" Well that's great! Fine by me! But I don't need to hear about it when I'm in your pt, and I sure as hell don't need to hear about it when I'm outside your pt. So please, if you must wear the badge of noobness by macroing everything you do, keep it confined to your own pt. There is no need to cast AoE newbness on everyone in your zone.

10. Weapon skills are important in most situations. It is not ok to solo your ws because you don't want to pay enough attention to the game to help your pt with a skillchain. Skillchains are a big help to parties--especially when magic casters are present--and so please be considerate of others before ignoring the party's established skill chain.

11. It is not ok to ask a person to perform a job that they don't want to perform. Your War/thf doesn't want to tank and you think she should, that's too bad for you. Get another member and move on with your life.

12. If people in your pt ask you questions and you NEVER respond, that signals to them that you either don't speak their language or are not paying attention to the game. I know that levelling gets tiresome sometimes and that you may simply want to get your levels without paying any attention to the game, but please, play with yourself on your own time. If you are self-abusing yourself while in a pt, then the whole party suffers, not just the kittens you're killing or the soldiers you're losing.

13. Oh wow! A ranger is LFG and your party needs a puller!! Great news! Now, what do you do? Option A entails sending the person a party invite! They'll accept, right? Probably not! It is proper etiquette to invite them to your pt by asking them first, and they sending a party invite once they accept. That's what people mean by "blind invites".

14. You are going to die! Simple as that. Crying about it, throwing blame around, or otherwise acting like a complete wuss is likely to get you blacklisted by your other pt members. Don't be baby! Grow up, suck it up, and get used to the concept of death and dying in Van'Diel.

15. DO NOT LEAVE A PT WITHOUT GIVING NOTICE. If your house is seriously on fire, or if your PT leader is seriously an idiot, or if you PT seriously sucks, then it's ok to fake D/C or just leave: you can't possibly find a replacement for yourself because that would inflict pain and torture on your unsuspecting replacement. In almost all other situations, though, it is completely rude to bail on your pt without notice, especially, and I mean especially here for ANY reason, if you just leveled.

16. There are two lists in this game: /blacklist and /friendlist. I've focused my advice on keeping you off /blacklist. You'll have to find your own ways to get on /friendlist. Common courtesy goes a long way in Van Diel, especially with the Japanese. If you camp on another party's camp, if you steal mining/harvesting points when a player is already there, or if you act like an overall idiot, then you'll probably never get to enjoy this game to anywhere near its fullest.

There is much more and there are also many guides available on this site and others that can help you make the most of your FFXI career. I realize that anybody who starts the game with the desire to learn probably doesn't need the advice that I've provided in this guide. Just like the RL, those who inquire often need far less help than those who never inquire. But let me just say this: we are newbs for a long time in this game. It is important to keep an open mind and to keep learning from more experienced players. I don't care if you're level 50, or even level 60, we're still a newb compared to the bulk of the in-game community. So please don't arrive in Garlaige Citadel with your Rank 3 and your level 30 job and assume that you've got the world figured out!!

Keeping an inquiring mind and avoiding idiocy and idiots is the key to success in Van'Diel.

Good luck.

Basset






Edited, Nov 30th 2006 6:10am by basset

Edited, Nov 30th 2006 6:13am by basset


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I want to stab him in the jowels....

Did this get a huge "nubatross" (thats a new term to me) uproar?

Apparently its OK to fake Disconnect now aswell, you know instead of OFFERING THE ADVICE HES HOOTIN AND HOLLARIN about.
 
well thought out and well written, SE should email that one to every new account
 
Blackchaoshero said:
well thought out and well written, SE should email that one to every new account

ya they should, but i doubt "New player" will read, do you ever read the whole Term of Agreement? or Those end-user lience crap when you brought a game you desperately want to play?
 
If your house is seriously on fire, or if your PT leader is seriously an idiot, or if you PT seriously sucks, then it's ok to fake D/C or just leave: you can't possibly find a replacement for yourself because that would inflict pain and torture on your unsuspecting replacement.
and you said:
Apparently its OK to fake Disconnect now aswell,

If your house is freaking on FIRE i give a damn about what my exp pt thinks. The other circumstances, I wouldnt fake DC, I would just say I have to go and I cannot find a replacement. Now I have been in a pt where one member was screwing it up so badly that the WHOLE PARTY disbanded on that one member, and I felt like shit for it, but the WHOLE PARTY minus that one individual did it. Wow, some people take this stuff too seriously. I have common courtesy, but I wont subject myself or a replacement to a bullshit 1.5k an hour pt, that wipes every 5 fights.
 
Coustain said:
and you said:


If your house is freaking on FIRE i give a damn about what my exp pt thinks. The other circumstances, I wouldnt fake DC, I would just say I have to go and I cannot find a replacement. Now I have been in a pt where one member was screwing it up so badly that the WHOLE PARTY disbanded on that one member, and I felt like shit for it, but the WHOLE PARTY minus that one individual did it. Wow, some people take this stuff too seriously. I have common courtesy, but I wont subject myself or a replacement to a bullshit 1.5k an hour pt, that wipes every 5 fights.

Obviously if youre house is on fire who gives a shit about the game, and honestly I just think if youre nice enough to stay in a party atleast give a small attepmt at finding a replacement, just because youre having a bad time, doesnt mean everyone is even though that exp does suck, too each his own, some people are just happy to get exp, and who knows maybe youre the problem, and the replacement will make it work. Remember you can always offer suggestions...
 
Flik said:
Obviously if youre house is on fire who gives a shit about the game, and honestly I just think if youre nice enough to stay in a party atleast give a small attepmt at finding a replacement, just because youre having a bad time, doesnt mean everyone is even though that exp does suck, too each his own, some people are just happy to get exp, and who knows maybe youre the problem, and the replacement will make it work. Remember you can always offer suggestions...

The pt that I was refering to had issue with the Ninja. Level 34 and had NO IDEA how SATA worked, let alone how it is executed. We tried for an hour to explain to him how SATA worked and what it did, but he didnt just get it. (How does anyone make it out of the jungle with an advanced job and not know about SATA?) The party as a whole decided to disband. I used to look for a replacement every time i left a party for being garbage. After the umpteenth time of getting cussed out in /tell for screwing someone, I stopped. Sorry
 
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Coustain said:
The pt that I was refering to had issue with the Ninja. Level 34 and had NO IDEA how SATA worked, let alone how it is executed. We tried for an hour to explain to him how SATA worked and what it did, but he didnt just get it. (How does anyone make it out of the jungle with an advanced job and not know about SATA?) The party as a whole decided to disband. I used to look for a replacement every time i left a party for being garbage. After the umpteenth time of getting cussed out in /tell for screwing someone, I stopped. Sorry

From my experience SATA is kind of like learing a whole statistics book in one day... no one under the 40's seems to regard or even give two shits what it is. I know what you mean, tanks never listen about it and it seems their habits are as bad as a compulsive overeaters. So thats understandable didnt meant to get all uppity
 
11. It is not ok to ask a person to perform a job that they don't want to perform. Your War/thf doesn't want to tank and you think she should, that's too bad for you. Get another member and move on with your life.
Hey guys, I'm gonna melee as a bard in parties now. And if you tell me otherwise I'm going to scream at you.

But, for the most part, good advice. Some things are dodgy(see above) but good enough that new players could get a firm grasp on the game. I think...(lolmedicine)
 
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There is no need to insert <call1> through <call3> into your provoke or Cure Macros. I know you are curing or provoking because an animation appears on my screen: scaring the beejesus out of me every time you perform a basic function is not conducive to generating good team spirit.

People should really listen to this. I hate nothing more than someone who has <call> in everything they do and my ears begin to bleed half way through the first pull. I think for the most part, I've removed all call macros besides my pull macros and that's to make sure people are paying attention and even then, it's one of the smoother sounds versus the plain <call>.
 
Only macro I have that announces in /p is my WS macro.
 
That said, it not ok to do the aforementioned activities while in a group with other players. This is a community game, and if you decide to have intercourse with your dog in my pt, you are not only wasting your own time but also the time of everyone else in your pt.

I've had way too many parties like that...
 
They should add:

"Don't ask a person who doesn't have their LFP flag up if they want to party, since they're probably in the middle of something else, as this game is not just about levelling."

I'll admit, it's pretty flattering to get party invites but after awhile it's annoying. And yes, many of you will probably say "Just go anonymous" but I shouldn't have to. If LFP flag isn't on, it's a pretty good indicator that I'm not interested in finding a party. Especially when I'm in La Theine and the invite is coming from Altepa.
 
Zephayra said:
They should add:

"Don't ask a person who doesn't have their LFP flag up if they want to party, since they're probably in the middle of something else, as this game is not just about levelling."

I'll admit, it's pretty flattering to get party invites but after awhile it's annoying. And yes, many of you will probably say "Just go anonymous" but I shouldn't have to. If LFP flag isn't on, it's a pretty good indicator that I'm not interested in finding a party. Especially when I'm in La Theine and the invite is coming from Altepa.


Totally agree with this. Walked out of my MH last night after just logging on, and had 3 invites within 5 minutes of logging on. On the weekends this would be great! Unfortunately I have to go to bed early on weeknights for work the next day.

I swear it was the same party too, only different members asking. All bibiki bay, all 5/6. If I say no once, it means I don't want to pt.
 
I can see repeated requests being annoying but I honestly don't get annoyed by getting them every so often.

/cough...to be totally honest I've done this a few times as party leader when there were no options seeking. Generally I think at least 50% of the time the person says okay to the party even though they didn't have their flag up. Many of us find a party too difficult to resist. ;) I don't ask people multiple times though.
 
Zephayra said:
They should add:

"Don't ask a person who doesn't have their LFP flag up if they want to party, since they're probably in the middle of something else, as this game is not just about levelling."

I'll admit, it's pretty flattering to get party invites but after awhile it's annoying. And yes, many of you will probably say "Just go anonymous" but I shouldn't have to. If LFP flag isn't on, it's a pretty good indicator that I'm not interested in finding a party. Especially when I'm in La Theine and the invite is coming from Altepa.

Sorry, but I actually disagree. If I don't want to be bothered, I go anonymous and if you prefer not to be anonymous in case someone needs your assistance (in low level area and you can raise), then use the search comment. {Party}{No thanks} works very well. I've found that asking someone to party when they are not seeking can go either way. I don't always get people to accept, but it's better than not forming a functioning party. I've also found that those that accepted party invites often didn't think they'd get a party or didn't plan on partying, but now that I have the party formed, it's too good to pass up.
 
I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't mind these type of invites and obviously as the both of you have pointed out, some people will accept the invite.

Disagree all you want, but it's still a pet peeve of mine.

And I have dealt with being asked again, by the same person, even though I said {No thanks.} the first time. In fact, the person was quite rude about it, sending me a /tell that went "{Party}? NOW?

I've never sent anyone a /tell asking if they would like party if they're flag isn't up, because I understand that there is a -lot- of stuff to do in this game, and some people would rather do quests/missions/etc than party. Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I just hate appearing rude.
 
Zephayra said:
I'm sure there are a lot of people who don't mind these type of invites and obviously as the both of you have pointed out, some people will accept the invite.

Disagree all you want, but it's still a pet peeve of mine.

And I have dealt with being asked again, by the same person, even though I said {No thanks.} the first time. In fact, the person was quite rude about it, sending me a /tell that went "{Party}? NOW?

I've never sent anyone a /tell asking if they would like party if they're flag isn't up, because I understand that there is a -lot- of stuff to do in this game, and some people would rather do quests/missions/etc than party. Maybe it's the Canadian in me, but I just hate appearing rude.

I guess it's all in how you ask. Generally I'll send a {Hello!}, if they respond I'll send a tell saying {Experience points}{Party}{place name}{Do you need it?}. If there's no response to the hello I usually won't send another tell. If they say no to the party I say "Ok {Thank you.}" if I'm not sure if they speak English. Or "Thanks for your response, sorry to bug you" if I know they understand English.

Personally I don't think the way I do it is rude; I hope not at least lol. :) There are definitely people that take it too far and I can understand it being a pet peeve.
 
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