Absolution -- Dynamis Zone Sniping

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Someone really needs to get some basic readings of theories of cooperation and figure out how they aren't working toward their own interest by pooping on others.
 
I don't know who BoL is, I also don't care.

You might want to find out who they were. Its very relevant to the current conversation.
 
I feel sorry for those who still camps Kings, I bet with their super-bot, the claim rate for others must be 0 now?
 
39 pages of ppl bitching, moaning and tossing irl attacks.

Final Fantasy XI - Serious Business.

Do any of you feel bad about sitting around on a pc/ps2/ps3/xbox irl attacking people over... a Video Game?

There is a VERY simple solution to this problem. A problem of which has been going on since the dawn of server transfer shells.

You can, call the special task force and report people you believe are cheating. Which is THE MOST effective way of dealing with people you really suspect of cheating.

You can also, just move to another zone and keep the focus on your shell and doing whats best for them. Never let what someones else does or doesn't do effect your success on here.

I am no stranger so the very harsh HARRASMENT of people who claim to have had zones they scheduled stolen by people I have associated with.

I have since within the last year or so been supporting the servers dynamis scheduling calendar but after seeing some of the things and attacks said in this thread, does it bring back so many memories.

You dont own a zone. You dont. That is the fact. You can schedule it on QCDN but QCDN is not and never will be law or have any effect on what a player can or cannot do in game.

It is a courtesy to use it and cooperate, a good one too.

Absolution or any shell on any server, would be very kind and generous to follow the schedule, however, it doesn't make someone an asshole or douchebag to chose not follow any .. um, Tradition. Im gonna call it that.

It is NOT A RULE. It is NOT a right. If you want rules and rights, you can refer to the terms of service, which are the rules.

One of any players rights is to move in any dynamis zone that no one is occupying. If someone has occupied the zone, then of course you cannot enter.

It is only out of KINDNESS anyone would chose to use the dynamis calendar here on qcdn.

Because someone doesn't want too, doesn't make them an asshole. Everyone's times are different, but its not as if thats any of anyone's business to explain their time zones and what not. There is no one in the zone. They have the right to enter. Period.

If they wanted to be generous or kind, yes, they would follow it and cooperate. They obviously aren't interested in being "nice". Kindness isn't a quality most hnm shells possess. The ones that do are very respectable. However, has nothing to do with said groups success or Morales.

Botting/MPK/RMTing - totally different story. One I feel the need to not get into. If you suspect someone is doing these things, you have responsibility to report it. I understand if you wanna /tell the person and be an asshole or w/e sometimes out of irritation. I've done that myself to people. Doesn't mean I'm not being a bitch by doing so but I understand where that frustration comes from. It doesn't mean you're right for doing so. You have to know that you're wrong for doing that.

Judging by what I've seen, It is no doubt people are harassing them. Yes, harassing. A violation that could easily get you banned. Sending some bitchy tells, OK but its pretty much far passed that point.

If someone said the things to me, that were said to them over DYNAMIS zone, that is not occupied, I would not in anyway shape or form cooperate with it. I wouldn't. You cant INTIMIDATE people into doing what you want.. Who do you think you are?

I do not support botting or gilselling/buying, bu thats not really what this threads about and its not up to us to determine if abso or any shell is guilty of those violations. Thats a GMs and STF officers job. NOT YOURS. Report it if you suspect it. If you dont wanna do that, then oh well. Nobody wants to hear about it. You obviously dont care enough to report it so, get over it. I have called a gm 400+ times to report people i think are rmt and I have submitted dozens of reports to the STF. Thats all you can really do.


Nothing pisses me off more than when people THINK they can just harass people over something like dynamis zones. Don't get me wrong, I still support the calendar. People talked to me about it and educated me on the way this server works. And I've converted into being a more cooperative player.

That doesn't change fact if someone ever said to things to me that were said to alaura, who btw was very hurt by such said things and is a nice girl, i would never consider being kind to such said group. Again, following the calandar is simply an act of kindess and nothing more.

It is shitty you lost your zone. I'm not siding with anyone but this thread isnt about what renze does for a living or what kinda car you drive (wtf?), its not about whos botting kings or buying new accounts, This is about dynamis scheduling and in the end anyone is in their right to occupy a zone that is empty and by doing so even knowing whats on the calandar doesnt make them "douchebags" or "assholes".

Just because you dont do something nice for someone doesnt mean you're a bitch or w/e. And yes, following the calandar is simply an act of kindness and or courtesy.

The best possible advice I can give is, use your rescources better, call gms, report, communicate respectfully (like meik), try to be kind, dont let your anger get the best of you.

If you get a glass from a dynamis shell and go in to ninja lot/mpk, you do know you will porbably get banned right? Unless the leaders or the shell or buyer of the glass gives you permission or suggest that you have rights to lot,(like in ragnorok dynamis case, they said lot ur @1) its considered scamming to ninja lot. If you do go in to MPK them, thats just mpking and also probably get you suspended. Especially if its anywhere in your log where you announce you are trying to get a glass to disrupt someones dynamis event.

Good luck on your runs and hopefully you all can come to some arangment and if you cant. Then you cant. Agree to disagree.
 
Just a small point: If you are to ninja a glass from another shell you won't get banned for lotting everything but if you do mpk you do get banned.
 
You're absolutely right, it's not a requirement to use the schedule. But where you're wrong is that it is more than just a "kindness." It's common courtesy and a bit of respect for many other people who, like yourself, probably don't have infinite amounts of time to play the game and plan their time to make the most of it. Refusing to acknowledge that there are other people you are inconveniencing, or worse, finding such behavior amusing does indeed make you an asshole. Whether you want to see it that way or not, that's the truth of the matter. Choosing not to utilize something that prevents these kinds of needless conflicts and wasted energies is immature and obnoxious.

Yep, you're right. To each their own. There will always be inconsiderate, selfish people in the world. It's just good when you get to see who they are so you can stay the hell away from them.
 
Just a small point: If you are to ninja a glass from another shell you won't get banned for lotting everything but if you do mpk you do get banned.


I am almost certain, if you took spam traded to try and obtain a glass, went inside and the leaders/glass buyer clearly state to you cannot lot and if you do it anyway, a GM would probably make you give them back.

Scamming is against TOS, and in my opinion, going into someone elses dynamis zone and lotting after clearly being told you are not allowed to cast lots, is a form of scamming/theft. Its totally different asking them to leave the zone.

They have a glass, they have the right to enter but thats different than mass lotting everything after being told not to. I could be wrong though, nothing might happen but I'm willing to bet it would.

In ragnaroks case, they werent asked to not lot, they were asked to leave. (right?) GMs did nothing. Itwould have been a different caee I'm sure if people just started mass lotting everything after being told not to.

Could be wrong though.
 
Refusing to acknowledge that there are other people you are inconveniencing, or worse, finding such behavior amusing does indeed make you an asshole. Whether you want to see it that way or not, that's the truth of the matter. Choosing not to utilize something that prevents these kinds of needless conflicts and wasted energies is immature and obnoxious.

Yep, you're right. To each their own. There will always be inconsiderate, selfish people in the world. It's just good when you get to see who they are so you can stay the hell away from them.

Well, yeah if people are doing something that is a huge inconvienance to others and being like "HAHA, bitches", then yeah thats being an asshole.

I meant what I said though, I am sorry you lost your zone.
 
I will see if I can find the screenshots, but loot pool is along the lines of yellow hnms in fair game.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be wondering what the fuck I was doing in a Linkshell with a leader like Renze. When you CAN make out what the fuck he's saying, it's ignorant and childish horseshit. "I'm gonna do what I want, you can't stop me"? How long until you're 16 kid?
 
I don't see the point of keeping this thread open and having people insult each other for no reason, both sides(the dynamis shells, and abso) took the wrong approach to the situation and any chance of it being worked out peacefully are long gone by now.

And for people bringing up my name saying i'm any different... I'm not, I'm just wearing another pearl, I'm not the type of person who picks/chooses friends according to their pearls, friends are friends regardless, anyone who knows me should know this by now.

And to Crumpet... come back fkr!

Of course, because PerfectAtaraxia scheduling on the forums along with most other Linkshells on the server and sticking to their schedule was the wrong approach. No. This thread is a result of Absolution sniping yet another zone from a schedule-abiding shell.

Everyone knows the schedule isn't law, so you can stop saying it. Everyone also knows you gimps will continue to do this, so you can stop saying that aswell. What everyone ALSO knows is that you're a bunch of fuckwits, and the shit-talking about your members will not stop either. As far as I'm concerned, it's guilt by association. If you're in that Linkshell, and you know your Linkshell is sniping another zone, and you're ok with it, you're not innocent. You're as guilty as the moronic leader Renze and the rest of them.

Stop trying to act innocent and pretend what you did was ok, because it's not, and everyone and their gran is letting you know why. How many more times do you need to hear it before you understand?
 
Their members dont have bad gear. It's just that they fail to realize that a shitload of people already have the gear they are working on now and are waiting for new content.

Of course, I wasn't *actually* interested in gear discussion. I was merely setting the scene for the next round of the "you fuckers act like you are special but you're not" talk I was about to enter.

Now, you Absolution kiddies. I have not once said "don't jack Dynamis zones." You can if you feel like it, and I can't do anything about it.

Now that we're cohabiting this QCDN flameboard though, I will talk shit about every aspect of you and your fucktard group, be it your gear, your skills (or the lack thereof), your lack of a real life, your general worthlessness in society, and since your chief gimp seems to like the subject, your mothers. And no, you can't do anything about it.

I heard you guys are having a good time reading this thread, and I think you have good reason to. It *is* pretty hilarious I was dead on about PhilCollins' real life huh? I think I'm right about that other gimp Renza too.

But why should you brats care that people talk trash about you? I don't know why you guys even bother to try to post here, because you really have no reputation to save.

I'm sure you rejects will move on to another server in a few months. After all, if you were any good in your previous server, you wouldn't have had to run away from it like little bitches. Do us all a favor and go and stimulate the economy with $30 more from your daddy's wallet.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be wondering what the fuck I was doing in a Linkshell with a leader like Prophecy. When you CAN make out what the fuck he's saying, it's ignorant and childish horseshit. "I'm gonna do what I want, you can't stop me"? How long until you're 16 kid?

History always repeats itself.
 
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be wondering what the fuck I was doing in a Linkshell with a leader like Renze. When you CAN make out what the fuck he's saying, it's ignorant and childish horseshit. "I'm gonna do what I want, you can't stop me"? How long until you're 16 kid?

You should probably go to a dictionary and look up 'Jealousy'. Because clearly that's what you are, my linkshell is strong and successful. Who the fuck are you?
You need to stop bitching and crying before we purposely snipe your shit because your shitty attitude is annoying me.

peace out
 
hahahahaha I guess they are his bitches then...aren't ya doggies?
 
You should probably go to a dictionary and look up 'Jealousy'. Because clearly that's what you are, my linkshell is strong and successful. Who the fuck are you?
You need to stop bitching and crying before we purposely snipe your shit because your shitty attitude is annoying me.

peace out

You still havent noticed? Noone cares what you kill and how "strong and sucessfull" you are. You think everyone is in awe of you, when really, noone cares. They just want you to stop doing their zones.

Now come on, say it with me again. "Noone cares what i do, im not important"
There you go.
 
You still havent noticed? Noone cares what you kill and how "strong and sucessfull" you are. You think everyone is in awe of you, when really, noone cares. They just want you to stop doing their zones.

Now come on, say it with me again. "Noone cares what i do, im not important"
There you go.

QFT. Not to mention you don't have much competition compared to other servers, oh and just incase. You can back it up with that fancy bot you have.

I used to think absolution was a pretty decent shell. You got some decent people like Alastor and Fresita and Alaura who I've doesn't actually speak down to other people because "lolz we're killing everything and snipingz shit" Maybe if you drop your e-thug attitude and this "Our Dynamis is random" shit then maybe you wouldn't get all this crap from other players and shells.
 
peace out


If he comes back and posts after saying THAT...

Then damn, man, you really are cool like a cucumber. Dropping some SERIOUS drama up in here, makin' it look like you're done with thread and not payin' attention anymore...

Then BAM! False sense of security, and you come back with a VENGEANCE and lay some logic on our inferior-to-your-shell asses.

/jerkoff motion

Practice what you preach, don't come back.
 
You still havent noticed? Noone cares what you kill and how "strong and sucessfull" you are. You think everyone is in awe of you, when really, noone cares. They just want you to stop doing their zones.

Now come on, say it with me again. "Noone cares what i do, im not important"
There you go.

IF no one cares. Than why are you all ways crying about crap like zomg dynamis. Also no dynamis zone belongs to anyone. There is no official schedule. You just made it up yourself so you can go to whatever zone you want. Well guess what you can't have it your way so you all can bitch and cry all you want.
 
IF no one cares. Than why are you all ways crying about crap like zomg dynamis. Also no dynamis zone belongs to anyone. There is no official schedule. You just made it up yourself so you can go to whatever zone you want. Well guess what you can't have it your way so you all can bitch and cry all you want.

No-one cares about how awesome you and your leader think your shell is. Nobody said no-one cares about you sniping zones, otherwise there wouldn't be a King Kong-sized flame about your gimp-ass linkshell. If you read what people say and think about what was said, you might understand the points people make.

Also, "stop crying" is getting a bit old. "Stop sniping". Your answer will match mine.
 
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