Absolution, opening enrollment for all ye misfits

[Sevv]

that makes perfect sense to me. take it out on a znm shell that doesnt camp HNMs.

Your a ZNM shell? Then why are you camping Sandworm? The second you step into hnm you have to realize people will treat you like a hnm shell.

2 wrongs do not make a right.

This is FFXI people don't care this is like eye for an eye type of game.

 

[Crumpet]

If I recall correctly, SnB did Sandworm a couple few times before you were even on this server. And That still doesn't give you an excuse to try to steal or MPK them because they decided to do sandworm. Grow the fuck up.

 

[Bumblebetuna]

i'll start watching you more

Is this a threat or promise? Because I am a Ninja!

 

[Gannon]

Hmmm. I wonder what's more interesting, the original flame or this Bumblebetuna vs. Makelith derail...

 

[Sevv]

If I recall correctly, SnB did Sandworm a couple few times before you were even on this server. And That still doesn't give you an excuse to try to steal or MPK them because they decided to do sandworm. Grow the fuck up.

If the multiple endgame shells are mpking each other in the aery and screwing with each other even at exp camps like what has been happening, no shell can come into an endgame camp and expect not to get shit. It is the sad and pathetic route Quetz end game has gone to in the past few weeks, with no end in site.

 

[Crumpet]

If the multiple endgame shells are mpking each other in the aery and screwing with each other even at exp camps like what has been happening, no shell can come into an endgame camp and expect not to get shit. It is the sad and pathetic route Quetz end game has gone to in the past few weeks, with no end in site.

That makes no sense. SnB did nothing to you and you decide to try to steal Sandworm from them because they claimed it? It just shows that your shell is willing to MPK other shells even though theres no history between them.

 

[Sevv]

That makes no sense. SnB did nothing to you and you decide to try to steal Sandworm from them because they claimed it? It just shows that your shell is willing to MPK other shells even though theres no history between them.

I am not saying that anything was right if actions were used against SnB, if they have or any member never has done anything to Absolution. Many linkshells not in endgame have scared Ixion on us/Sent Nasty tells/etc. Also many actions have been against absolution, members from aura and sativa have messed with absolution outside of camps, as well as in camps. Trust me I am not saying Absolution hasn't taken actions at camps first but no one has taken it away from camps to my knowledge from Absolution. To be frankly honest I do not like where this is going by any means.

 

[Zaltana]

SnB has never gone out of their way to screw up an even for another LS. SnB hasn't camped the worm in a very very long time. i was offline when they killed it Sunday so i'm not sure how they claimed it. but SnB choose to go after it again since they knew when it would be up. that generally covers the whole reason why they were after the sandworm.

While you seem to want to clean up your LS's image, i dont think you really can cause your LS doesnt wants it's image cleaned up. All of the scorn Abso gets is a direct result of the foolishness of its members, example the ones that tried to fuck up the sandworm SnB claimed monday. dont make excuses for the douchebags in your LS. you want to change the way the shell is looked at, start by dealing with them.

 

[Crumpet]

I am not saying that anything was right if actions were used against SnB, if they have or any member never has done anything to Absolution. Many linkshells not in endgame have scared Ixion on us/Sent Nasty tells/etc. Also many actions have been against absolution, members from aura and sativa have messed with absolution outside of camps, as well as in camps. Trust me I am not saying Absolution hasn't taken actions at camps first but no one has taken it away from camps to my knowledge from Absolution. To be frankly honest I do not like where this is going by any means.

SnB isn't Sativa or Aura are they? They don't go to the Aery. They weren't the ones sending you nasty tells. Just because others shells treat you like shit (And I can see why now) doesn't mean SnB were going to do the same thing. Drop this "bawww but they did it first so we must do it too!" attitude and trying to shit talk at every oppurtunity you get and maybe you'll get some space.

 

[Eladamiri]

Who are the legit ones again?

im gonna go out on a limb and say all the people that casted on the spider? i dunno maybe im just fucking retarded

 

[Ryou]

I've seen nothing shady in the Aery besides Abso's attempts to first get Darters spawning during Fafnir's window, and subsequently, cfh'ing a spider in the middle of the pit right before a force pop'd Nidhogg.

And even if people are trying to fuck with you in Aery... maybe it's because you deserve it? It's not about dog-eat-dog and an eye for an eye. You made the first strike: you provoked everyone else first with your blatant disregard for fair play and your willingness to screw everyone else in the server over for your pixels by using NASA.

 

[Sevv]

SnB isn't Sativa or Aura are they? They don't go to the Aery. They weren't the ones sending you nasty tells. Just because others shells treat you like shit (And I can see why now) doesn't mean SnB were going to do the same thing. Drop this "bawww but they did it first so we must do it too!" attitude and trying to shit talk at every oppurtunity you get and maybe you'll get some space.

No they aren't either but if they are camping kings/hnms then they can't just use "We are a ZNM ls" endgame is shit on quetz right now sorry to say.

I've seen nothing shady in the Aery besides Abso's attempts to first get Darters spawning during Fafnir's window, and subsequently, cfh'ing a spider in the middle of the pit right before a force pop'd Nidhogg.

And even if people are trying to fuck with you in Aery... maybe it's because you deserve it? It's not about dog-eat-dog and an eye for an eye. You made the first strike: you provoked everyone else first with your blatant disregard for fair play and your willingness to screw everyone else in the server over for your pixels by using NASA.

Well lets bring you up to speed, of actual things that have happened none of the hear say shit that was argued about sativa mpking or wtf ever was said, also not bringing up all the shit talking because hell I believe this forum has a character per post limit

- On atleast 2 occasions ( I think 3) Sativa members have cured people in absolution, while they had claim. Granted the action of being cured should never have happened if absolution had taken the time to /bockaid. No mpk happened but was noted.

- Aura claimed a Tiamat (believe their second one) adds were diaga'd somehow someone from aura got charmed and nuked IIRC tony was telling me.

- Post Tiamat, guan burst II'd or t4'd a darter again. Flies were diaga'd by aura.

- Members of Aura and Sativa diaga'd exp mobs of people in absolution, granted summoner burn but bringing it outside endgame none the less. (Atwight and Tryce were only ones I know to not sound like I'm blaming the entire linkshell)

This is only what I have been around for; granted there is probably plenty more things that happen when I am working or taking care of my daughter etc.

 

[Ryou]

To be honest, I think all of that is fair game for them to do given your shell's use of NASA.

And none of it justifies the way your counter tactics fuck with everyone playing legitimately, not just those shells.

 

[metachronism]

No they aren't either but if they are camping kings/hnms then they can't just use "We are a ZNM ls" endgame is shit on quetz right now sorry to say.

Why does it matter what they proclaim to be? Do you treat people differently based on who they are? They have names for all the variants out there you know... racism, sexism, antisemitism... I fail to see why you even try to justify your LS's uprovoked attacks against random groups of people. This doesn't even go into the gray area of tit-for-tat attacks.

Well lets bring you up to speed, of actual things that have happened none of the hear say shit that was argued about sativa mpking or wtf ever was said, also not bringing up all the shit talking because hell I believe this forum has a character per post limit

- On atleast 2 occasions ( I think 3) Sativa members have cured people in absolution, while they had claim. Granted the action of being cured should never have happened if absolution had taken the time to /bockaid. No mpk happened but was noted.

- Aura claimed a Tiamat (believe their second one) adds were diaga'd somehow someone from aura got charmed and nuked IIRC tony was telling me.

- Post Tiamat, guan burst II'd or t4'd a darter again. Flies were diaga'd by aura.

- Members of Aura and Sativa diaga'd exp mobs of people in absolution, granted summoner burn but bringing it outside endgame none the less. (Atwight and Tryce were only ones I know to not sound like I'm blaming the entire linkshell)

This is only what I have been around for; granted there is probably plenty more things that happen when I am working or taking care of my daughter etc.

How does something that some particular LS did to you justify your actions against unrelated people? How would you react if some guy just walked up to your daughter and kicked her, and gave the explanation "cause some other guy kicked me, I kicked your daugther. She must have deserved it cause she lives in the same city, and came in a 20 foot radius of me."?

That's about same level of rationality and morality behind your LS's actions up to this point.

I understand you guys have some vendetta against some groups, and maybe it's even justified--but please leave the rest of us out of it. Honestly, we don't care about your history with LSs that we have no connections with.

Most of us rational people judge others by their actions--not what or who they are. I'd like you guys to reflect upon your initial contacts with the people NOT sativa or aura who are pissed at you guys. I would bet that in most cases, you guys instigated the conflict with some immature acts.

Do I dislike botters? Yeah, of course. But I'm not enough of an in-game vigilante to go writing these angry tirades against you guys just because of that. It's because you guys are fucking my guys over when we haven't done jack shit to you guys that I attack your members (verbally, outside the game, mind you. I am not stooping to the level of ruining other people's free time). Social justice usually sides with the revenger, not the instigator. I think the situation Absolution is in now clearly illustrates that.

You guys can finally come to your senses and realize that this whole server isn't sativa, and act accordingly, or you can turn the whole server against you. It's up to you guys.

 

[Xalioniaf]

That said, thread is not about the the reputation system, which won't be coming back. So lets stay on topic about absolution or this will just go back to its previously locked state.

You break my heart.
Oh, on topic.
Uhh... Absolution isn't on Asura?

 

[Crumpet]

Meta pretty much said what I was trying to say and worded it well.

Just because 2 other shells treat you like shit, Why treat someone completely unrelated to that group of people the same because they decide to have a go at Sandworm? Just seems like a butthurt attempt to MPK because you didn't claim it yourself.

 

[Sevv]

His last post

The first snip wasn't intentional by any means but I have a feeling the following ones were because you attacked the entire linkshell. Hell if you didn't notice I am here trying to work things out so dynamis isn't stolen for anyone. Please tho go on continuing to attack people so that even my words fall on deaf ears. The only reason I even care enough to do this is pretty much everyone I have met on this server has been nice and shown me respect (not because I am leet or in some omg hnm shell, but just the common courtesy I show to other people.)

Meta pretty much said what I was trying to say and worded it well.

Just because 2 other shells treat you like shit, Why treat someone completely unrelated to that group of people the same because they decide to have a go at Sandworm? Just seems like a butthurt attempt to MPK because you didn't claim it yourself.

I wasn't there so I honestly don't know the real reason for it, that and icespike spam would only be a tactic to lag people out.

 

[Sevv]

To edit in regards to Meta's first part I failed to respond to: The only reason it was even brought up was iirc Falsey (sp?) came in saying we mpk'd a ZNM ls. Last I checked Sandworm isn't in the ZNM tiers.

 

[Falsey]

I wasn't there so I honestly don't know the real reason for it, that and icespike spam would only be a tactic to lag people out.

since SW absorbs all buffs from those around it, it kept getting ice spikes over and over, along with all other buffs you idiots had, so we had to sit there and dispel for a whole minute and by then, guess what? it drained all buffs again. rinse, repeat, and here we are.

 

[Falsey]

To edit in regards to Meta's first part I failed to respond to: The only reason it was even brought up was iirc Falsey (sp?) came in saying we mpk'd a ZNM ls. Last I checked Sandworm isn't in the ZNM tiers.

lol i never said you mpked us.

we are a znm ls that just so happened to have camped SW. go back to taking out your aery dats and camping dragons and shit.