No they aren't either but if they are camping kings/hnms then they can't just use "We are a ZNM ls" endgame is shit on quetz right now sorry to say.
Why does it matter what they proclaim to be? Do you treat people differently based on who they are? They have names for all the variants out there you know... racism, sexism, antisemitism... I fail to see why you even try to justify your LS's uprovoked attacks against random groups of people. This doesn't even go into the gray area of tit-for-tat attacks.
Well lets bring you up to speed, of actual things that have happened none of the hear say shit that was argued about sativa mpking or wtf ever was said, also not bringing up all the shit talking because hell I believe this forum has a character per post limit
- On atleast 2 occasions ( I think 3) Sativa members have cured people in absolution, while they had claim. Granted the action of being cured should never have happened if absolution had taken the time to /bockaid. No mpk happened but was noted.
- Aura claimed a Tiamat (believe their second one) adds were diaga'd somehow someone from aura got charmed and nuked IIRC tony was telling me.
- Post Tiamat, guan burst II'd or t4'd a darter again. Flies were diaga'd by aura.
- Members of Aura and Sativa diaga'd exp mobs of people in absolution, granted summoner burn but bringing it outside endgame none the less. (Atwight and Tryce were only ones I know to not sound like I'm blaming the entire linkshell)
This is only what I have been around for; granted there is probably plenty more things that happen when I am working or taking care of my daughter etc.
How does something that some particular LS did to you justify your actions against unrelated people? How would you react if some guy just walked up to your daughter and kicked her, and gave the explanation "cause some other guy kicked me, I kicked your daugther. She must have deserved it cause she lives in the same city, and came in a 20 foot radius of me."?
That's about same level of rationality and morality behind your LS's actions up to this point.
I understand you guys have some vendetta against some groups, and maybe it's even justified--but please leave the rest of us out of it. Honestly, we don't care about your history with LSs that we have no connections with.
Most of us rational people judge others by their actions--not what or who they are. I'd like you guys to reflect upon your initial contacts with the people NOT sativa or aura who are pissed at you guys. I would bet that in most cases, you guys instigated the conflict with some immature acts.
Do I dislike botters? Yeah, of course. But I'm not enough of an in-game vigilante to go writing these angry tirades against you guys just because of that. It's because you guys are fucking my guys over when we haven't done jack shit to you guys that I attack your members (verbally, outside the game, mind you. I am not stooping to the level of ruining other people's free time). Social justice usually sides with the revenger, not the instigator. I think the situation Absolution is in now clearly illustrates that.
You guys can finally come to your senses and realize that this whole server isn't sativa, and act accordingly, or you can turn the whole server against you. It's up to you guys.