Active duty soldier. Family faces deportation.

[jamal]

In Gonzalez's case, his wife, Mildred, came to the United States with her mother in 1989 when she was 5 years old. They were granted political asylum because of their status as war refugees from Guatemala.

In September 2000, Mildred's mother applied for legalization and included her daughter in that application. Her mother was granted legal status in July 2004, according to Gonzalez.

However, six weeks earlier, Gonzalez and Mildred got married, canceling Mildred's ability to apply for legal status through her mother because she was no longer an unmarried daughter under the age of 21. As a result, her legal status still remains in jeopardy.

And a father also shouldn't have to worry about his terminally ill daughter either, but it happens.

There's one difference though, the deportation is directly a result of neglect to follow the proper immigration laws, whereas a father of a terminally ill child holds no responsibility to being the cause of the families problems with the exception of a genetic mutation that can't be controlled. Being military personnel doesn't put you above the law of the land. Just as he can't come home and rob a bank, he also is subject to the immigration laws of the land.

The biggest thing I see in this story, is that the woman had a chance to apply for legality in the US, but got married and therefore made it void. If you move here when you are young, that's fine, because it's mainly guided by a parental influence. However, if that same parent does not take the time and effort involved in becoming a legal citizen of the United States, then yes, they deserve to be deported.

"I screwed my wife over from becoming lega, and now I have to take responsibility for it."

Its not heartwarming, but as in everything, prior planning prevents piss poor performance. This could have been a much different story had they held off on the marriage plans until citizenship was granted on the current application.

 

[Sneakypants]

An active duty combat citizen should not have to worry about his family being deported =|

While I agree with that from the standpoint of soldier morale, doing what's "right", etc., I also find gray area here.

Since his wife has had plenty of time to legally gain citizenship, but didn't, and now the family has to deal with this, how is that the government's fault?

He wants to be defending the country, and that's great. If he was not, this wouldn't be an issue at all. These folks would be deported already.


Issues like these are tough, since there is no easy call. But that only amplifies the reasons to follow the rules and laws of the country. They are there for a reason. When things like this come up, consult the laws. In the mean time, if you want to avoid trouble of any kind, do things legally. In that regard I don't feel the slightest bit bad about this situation. If these people are that serious about loving this country, before I can respect that, the gesture of following the laws and gaining citizenship is required. If they can respect the country and its people in this regard, they've got my respect. Of course, they already have my respect defending the country. Unfortunately for them, they are not above the law, and are subject to them. They should have done their homework.

Also, if she applied and has not yet been processed, that should be easily proven. In this case, I'm sure something could be done. It has been, what, 7 years since she became an adult? That's more than enough grace period to accommodate the slowest of processing.

 

[Ayumi]

If you hate the US then get the fuck out.

Yep, that's what I did. However, it takes a lot of planning and money to "get the fuck out". Sometimes you are forced to be somewhere you do not want to be. That doesn't mean you have to LIKE it, IMO.

ETA: I don't "hate" the U.S. It's just not for me. Wasn't born there, was forced to move/spend my teen years there with my parents, just didn't ever feel like where I wanted to be for a shitload of reasons. I think affairs of citizenship in general are BS though. You should be able to live wherever you want to, the fact that you have to have permission in general sucks, because the world should be everyone's. I know, I am an idealist and it probably cannot work that way. : (

 

[Tristam Green]

the world should be everyone's. I know, I am an idealist and it probably cannot work that way. : (

Sadly :\

It'd surely be nice, though.

 

[Ayumi]

Sadly :\

It'd surely be nice, though.

Yes it would. I love Japan but they are bitches about their Visas. Basically it's "OK, we let you stay three months. If you prove you are no longer of any use to us, we will not renew your Visa, and you will have to take your white ass back to wherever you came from. We do not care that our standard home leases are two years long and that they asked you for a 6 month deposit."

And then all you can really do is go "thank you for your kindess" because they're already being generous. :crazy:

 

[Eilistrae]

as I was reading the article, I was thinking "I thought if you married a US citizen you became a citizen by marriage." because that is how it used to be. But then I read further down that he didn't even get his US citizenship until 2005, and her mother didn't apply till 2000... didn't get accepted until 2004. Both were aliens, even if he was fighting for this country. Question is, did they get married prior to 2000? or in 2004, before her mother's status was granted? It says that their marriage resulted in "...canceling Mildred's ability to apply for legal status through her mother because she was no longer an unmarried daughter under the age of 21." This is a bad writer giving the reader a poorly put together time line.

I hate to say it but perhaps the two of them should have waited to be married until they had their status as U.S. Citizens already squared away. It is unfortunate that this is happening, but they should have taken the time to do it, both of them. Especially if living in the U.S. is so important to them.

 

[Neyla]

as I was reading the article, I was thinking "I thought if you married a US citizen you became a citizen by marriage." because that is how it used to be.

No, you no longer are granted citizenship by simply marrying someone.

 

[Romper]

You really need to read the 1st post...

to sum it up a solider is fighting, risking his life and the government wants to deport his wife and his kid that was born here. He also is a Us citzen

He's not fighting the insurgents he's sitting on a boat in the water. Not to bash any naval officers here, but come on there is a difference in being in harms way in a city that has numerous bomb attacks and fighting from the water.

 

[Ryujin]

he is still overseas fighting direct or indirect. He is still way from his Family and friends. In a country he does not know

 

[Romper]

he is still overseas fighting direct or indirect. He is still way from his Family and friends. In a country he does not know

A country he doesn't know? This is the second time we've fought against Iraq. Sorry, but he's not really risking his life. As Antor said she should have filed for citizenship, but now as it stands she's an illegal immigrant with ties to this country just because her son was born here. This is what the illegal immigrants from Mexico do they have a kid in this country so they can try to stay here because the kid is a US citizen by birth right.

 

[Ryujin]

i still stand by what i think.

we should have a point system instead of a lottery system like it is in this country for immigration

 

[Romper]

i still stand by what i think.

we should have a point system instead of a lottery system like it is in this country for immigration

Lottery system? You have to pass a test to become a citizen. Yes that's right a test based on answering so many questions correctly. There will be a list because a lot of people apply for the test. It's not a lottery to get in you just have to apply sooner. 11 years in the country and you didn't bother to apply right away? Your fucking fault.

 

[Ruffyreborn]

Im sorry, but Im on this side. If youre here illegally, get your shit done of you want to stay. Otherwise, be prepared to get your ass out.

I do not support people being in this country illegally, and yes, like romper says, its as easy as applying to take a test. Hell, you can even cheat and move in with family members/get adopted/marry/transfer jobs/whatever the hell else WITHOUT taking the test.

I feel bad for the family, but they should have got their shit done. There are a lot of things I support and dont support, but illegal aliens isnt something I do.

 

[exodusamphi]

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (CNN) -- Eduardo Gonzalez, a petty officer second class with the U.S. Navy, is about to be deployed overseas for a third time.

he is still overseas fighting direct or indirect. He is still way
from his Family and friends. In a country he does not know

is about to be deployed overseas for a third time.

for a third time.

third time.

Im sure by the third time around he has an idea of where the fuck he is and what it looks like

I should have done the whole bigger font thing, but thats not me. You said to read the first post again, but i think that is what you need to do. Reading comprehension > you. Damn i dont think ive used that since blazn

 

[Dejavu]

http://www.usagcls.com/

USA Green Card Lottery Service

 

[Lucki]

Lottery system? You have to pass a test to become a citizen. Yes that's right a test based on answering so many questions correctly. There will be a list because a lot of people apply for the test. It's not a lottery to get in you just have to apply sooner. 11 years in the country and you didn't bother to apply right away? Your fucking fault.

just a question, but do you even know know what youre actually talking about? i think not

yes you can take a test to become a citizen, but you obviously dont know what all that entails

Application Support Centers

Some immigration applications, such as the Application for Naturalization or the Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status, require the USCIS to conduct a FBI fingerprint background check on the applicant. Most applicants that require a background check will be scheduled to appear at a specific Application Support Center (ASC) or Designated Law Enforcement Agency (DLEA) for fingerprinting.

[NOTE: Applicants are scheduled for an appointment at a specific ASC. On rare occasions, they are allowed to choose between more than one site. Please read your appointment notice carefully.]

As of June 20, 2000, many ASCs also receive applications (Form I-90) for the renewal of 10-year expiring green cards. For more information on which ASCs accept green card renewal applications for expiring 10-year green cards, please refer to the web page for the District or Sub Office having jurisdiction over your place of residence and see the topic called "Green Card Renewal".

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=5d4d7c2d65a8e010VgnVCM1000000ecd190aRCRD

the USCIS/FBI has to do that for every, single applicant that wants in, so there will be a little bit of a wait for that to happen (read: years and years)... so its not like you can simple walk into a USCIS center, fill out an application, and get your green card a couple hours later (which it seems, from your quoted post, you seem to believe)

there is also a lottery system in place that tries to alleviate some of that burden

What is the Diversity Visa Lottery Program?
Each year, 50,000 immigrant visas are made available through a lottery to people who come from countries with low rates of immigration to the United States. None of these visas are available for people who come from countries that have sent more than 50,000 immigrants to the United States in the past five years. The State Department's National Visa Center holds the lottery every year, and chooses winners randomly from all qualified entries. Anyone who is selected under this lottery will be given the opportunity to apply for permanent residence. If permanent residence is granted, then the individual will be authorized to live and work permanently in the United States. You will also be allowed to bring your spouse and any unmarried children under the age of 21 to the United States.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/us...nnel=54519c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD

it does pay to look into a grownup matter and do some research before spouting off some uninformed bullshit

 

[Ryujin]

Thank you lucki


Also back to topic, she cant get her residency because the INS got rid of the I-250 form. Which lets a illegal immigrant apply for a residency.

 

[Skaw]

If someone says "What do you think of Turkey?" I sure as hell don't think about the government.

Silly Uzor, why would they? Turkey is a fowl. And it's delicious.

Back on topic - yeah, it sucks for this guy. On the otherhand, I'm happy his kid isn't an anchor baby for his illegal wife.

 

[Ryujin]

Im sure by the third time around he has an idea of where the fuck he is and what it looks like

I should have done the whole bigger font thing, but thats not me. You said to read the first post again, but i think that is what you need to do. Reading comprehension > you. Damn i dont think ive used that since blazn

Just because he has been to Iraq 2 times going on 3 does not mean he knows every street and area; does it.



I don't know about you but when i go to other towns 2-3 times i still don't know where everything is. Its also a far stretch from his country of origin and from the Usa.

 

[Mistra]

There's a whole other bag of immigration issues I have a problem with. Not to be off topic, but here's a story-

I'm at Wal-Mart, buying Buddy some food and rawhide dental bones. I get to the counter, and mention to the woman behind it that the last bag of bones I bought smelled really bad inside, and that if one of these bags smelled the same way, I would like to return it. I then asked if that was possible.

She looks at me, cocks her head like my dog does, and says, "Que?"

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