Another dynamis thread?

[Kohra]

Or by far extents are you referring to the fact that I had been a conscript in the army in my country (drafted in laymans terms) and as a result would either arrive about 1 hour late to dynamis or extremely late?

As has been stated several times in this thread, which you’ve either missed or chosen to ignore, the problem is not so much missed runs. EVERYONE has RL that interferes with game play. We have members that show up late or have to leave early all the time. The problems were that you there, in game, available to come to a run, but you decided to skip out to do something else in game, and not only that, you would sit in LS talking. Hopefully I don’t have to repeat this again, since I’ve said it numerous times.

So here we have kohra artificially inflating my missed runs to double the maximum that I could have skipped while avoiding the no lot rule.

You would miss 2 runs, then attend a third to avoid the no lot. This was reaching a peak during the months that both Gladdy and Jescer were barely able to attend runs, so you managed to slip through the cracks unnoticed till I asked Galiant to check your pattern of attendance. Once we were aware of this, it was brought to Gladdy who decided to give you yet ANOTHER chance. Your actions had just reached a point of enough is enough so we dealt with it. You can go on about this as long as you like Khajit. It will not change that fact that you are facing the consequences of your actions. If you had heeded the warnings you had been given and shown an effort to change your behaviour to show respect towards your dynamis shell, you’d still be in it.

So what we have here is a person whom is claiming that he had no idea that a lv 75 rdm who had enough points to absolutely dominate both northland tiers would have even a little interest in obtaining one of the best relic pieces in dynamis?

V This V

Hell i wasn't even aware he was on the RDM tier until 3am friday when i posted the shell audit on our forum.

As you can clearly see, I said rdm tier, not that I wasn’t aware you had rdm. In regards to tier points and what happened on Monday November 3rd was failure of the leadership. Because we have had game restrictions we have become disorganized, something I’ll take the blame for. Leadership has been working hard this past week to set up better organization so that this will not happen again.

I will make this absolutely clear: Khajit was removed from the shell because of months upon months of disrespecting the shell as a whole, exploiting attendance rules, and choosing to ignore numerous and more than fair warnings about this behaviour. His behaviour on Monday was the final straw that broke that camel’s back. You can go on harping about Monday, making it seem like you were kicked because of that one night, or you can accept that you were removed due to almost a year of bad behaviour.

stuff about holding onto point lead for thf hand, stuff about coming brd, stuff about dot colour

Thank you for demonstrating that you were only coming to runs to maintain your point lead. Backs up that you could screw your shellmates by skippings later when you had enough points to lead on rdm tier. (That I am now aware of because of course I’ve looked into this since it was brought up.)

Khajit was asked to come brd that night only because we had no other brds to my knowledge. Since that night, because Khajit threw a temper tantrum, I have never once asked or expected anyone to bring their alt.

To my knowledge, we’ve never had a naked brd come to a dynamis run, nor would we allow it.

It has been well known for a very long time what colour you use for af and what colour for coins. We use Screenshots for attendance which shows dot colour so we can tell at a glance what’s going on with lotting. You are not the only one that has had to pass an item because they failed to follow this rule. You knew which colour was for what, the mistake was yours, end of story. You were told to change your dot colour and you could lot the next drop. This was at a time when people were being willy-nilly about lot comments, including not even putting in a lot comment, making it things difficult for leaders, and we were cracking down on it. We haven’t had problems with lot comments now for about a year.

Let’s start with the drama explosion from lolwtf. It is to my understanding that lyrai was kicked for not being casual enough when she had managed the shell in such a way that they could dominate and farm the entirety of sky at once because of your huge number’s advantage.

At this time I was out of commission, as my PS2 HDD had fried. I wasn’t there, so I can’t confirm or deny any details regarding this. If you want to Flame lolWTF leaders, go ahead, start a new flame. This is a flame about you vs. lolD, not Lyrai vs. lolWTF.

You are accusing lyrai of retiring whm when in fact lyrai has whm gear because she was told that if she didn’t gear up her whm she would not be allowed into lold. So infact she specifically has bought whm gear for dynamis.

I believe she was told prior to a run, before she claimed to have retired whm that she was either to get whm, or she’d be sitting out of the run. This was due to her arguing with leaders every single time she was asked to come whm, and leadership was fed up with it. She’s been coming Sch since she “retired” whm about 4 months ago. Leadership respected her claim of retiring a job.

 

[Moink]

/lsmes
loldynamis: hellfirebrmstn
Dynamis- Beacedine. Gather together. 7:30 est. Going for the win.
Nov 9 2008.
http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=64790
Take a nice quick look at that. I sent a PM earlier to Limitless leader about it.

Im glad leaders cant make mistakes about the area within lsmes... lolD's run is Dynamis-Buburimu

 

[Kohra]

/lsmes
loldynamis: hellfirebrmstn
Dynamis- Beacedine. Gather together. 7:30 est. Going for the win.
Nov 9 2008.
http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=64790
Take a nice quick look at that. I sent a PM earlier to Limitless leader about it.

This is a typo Khaj. if you look at our scheduling here: http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=65923 you'll see we have buburimu scheduled. dynamis-beau is directly above dynamis-bubu in the autotranslate. The lsmes has been changed and the typo corrected. Though your efforts to stir up bad blood between lolD and limitless have been noted.

 

[Kohra]

I've been hearing less than steller things about lolD's leadership for a while now. Shady points tracking, a leader demanding people on certain jobs but never coming as anything other than a really crappy DRK, Holding up an entire run while they wait for a leader's friend to finally get his ass to dynamis 2 hours later, and the list goes on.

As stated, leadership has been unorganized the last few months. Steps have been taken over this past few weeks to fix multiple problems. That really crappy drk i assume to be me. Since we have have a really stellar puller in Moriarti, i'm not needed on thf very often. I suppose i could come bst, lulz. WE have never held up a run 2 hrs. We don't wait for specific members before entering. As a matter of fact we entered w/o Gladdy on friday because he was running a few minutes late. Our latest enter time is somewhere around the 45 minutes late mark. That was a xarc run irrc, and we were so late due to job shuffling as latecomers kept trickling in 5, 10 or 15 mins late. We have a few people that show up 1hr late or so due to work schedules. In that case we either have a glass mule outside, or have someone warp, then OP warp out there to glass the person to allow them to enter.

Often in northlands runs, Khajit brought Azamaria out as the glass mule.

 

[Neisan]

As has been stated several times in this thread, which you’ve either missed or chosen to ignore, the problem is not so much missed runs. EVERYONE has RL that interferes with game play. We have members that show up late or have to leave early all the time. The problems were that you there, in game, available to come to a run, but you decided to skip out to do something else in game, and not only that, you would sit in LS talking. Hopefully I don’t have to repeat this again, since I’ve said it numerous times.

You would miss 2 runs, then attend a third to avoid the no lot. This was reaching a peak during the months that both Gladdy and Jescer were barely able to attend runs, so you managed to slip through the cracks unnoticed till I asked Galiant to check your pattern of attendance. Once we were aware of this, it was brought to Gladdy who decided to give you yet ANOTHER chance. Your actions had just reached a point of enough is enough so we dealt with it. You can go on about this as long as you like Khajit. It will not change that fact that you are facing the consequences of your actions. If you had heeded the warnings you had been given and shown an effort to change your behaviour to show respect towards your dynamis shell, you’d still be in it.



I will make this absolutely clear: Khajit was removed from the shell because of months upon months of disrespecting the shell as a whole, exploiting attendance rules, and choosing to ignore numerous and more than fair warnings about this behaviour. His behaviour on Monday was the final straw that broke that camel’s back. You can go on harping about Monday, making it seem like you were kicked because of that one night, or you can accept that you were removed due to almost a year of bad behaviour.


Thank you for demonstrating that you were only coming to runs to maintain your point lead. Backs up that you could screw your shellmates by skippings later when you had enough points to lead on rdm tier. (That I am now aware of because of course I’ve looked into this since it was brought up.)

Unless he was specifically sitting in LS talking and missing two runs in a row and then coming on the third run, you can't fault him for any run missed due to military service (Which is punishable by jail time for missing in our country), especially since in the first quote you maintain that others are excused for RL interfering with game time, but Khajit missing runs due to Compulsory Conscription warrants black marks for each of those missed runs? The runs skipped while still in LS, okay, black mark there, but those missed due to service shouldn't be counted.

 

[Dowzer]

I remember lolD being one of the few free-standing (not affiliated with a major endgame shell) groups that was actually doing a good job, both for its members and accomplishments.

A lot of people have come and gone, but a few members still stick around from way back in the day.

The only two I recognize from this screen shot are myself and Xemo. Everyone else has quit the game or left the linkshell.

As has been stated several times in this thread, which you’ve either missed or chosen to ignore, the problem is not so much missed runs. EVERYONE has RL that interferes with game play. We have members that show up late or have to leave early all the time. The problems were that you there, in game, available to come to a run, but you decided to skip out to do something else in game, and not only that, you would sit in LS talking. Hopefully I don’t have to repeat this again, since I’ve said it numerous times.

I have skipped out plenty of times to fulfill objectives in the game that I held above lolDynamis' head. From my point of view, continuing this behavior for three consecutive runs, would place me under the no-lot list. In fact, I skipped an entire month in the late summer, while still logging in on the game - sometimes even chatting during runs when I was absent.

God forbid members would like to chat with shell mates while they take an evening to relax.

I may have said it was disrespectful in an earlier post, but now that I think of it, when did Khaj ever talk down to members while skipping? Specifically, when has Khaj EVER talked down to members? All the while, you guys poke fun at him with nearly every chance you get. I recall members actually harassing Khaj about his RL situations.

I have always had a large point total and I have been on the no-lot list only two or three times. Khajit has always had a large point total and has been on the no-lot list only a few times as well.

During those times, I have "buffed" my points and attended runs that I incredibly dislike (Hello, Jeuno/Windurst) and all the while I followed the rules. I would intentionally be absent from runs and begin attending when favorable zones were in the future. Are you saying, if I had stuck around and chatted with the LS, that it may warrant my removal as well?

Like Davion has been doing, scroll back through the attendance history and you may uncover some "shady" periods of attendance from myself.

The only time you asked why I wasn't attending, I gave you the honest reason of helping my friend with WS points. I was honest and you were rude with me with saying Dynamis is more important than helping my friend. You said I should plan these events outside of Dynamis time. A little compassion would tell you, "Maybe him and his friend don't have a lot of time together?" Attitude such as that makes me trifle at your notion of lolDynamis being a "casual" linkshell.

I would also like to take this time to retire my RDM. I know you asked about my jobs last night and I included RDM. It is only used in solo or low man scenarios. I have never complained about bringing it, although I was rarely asked to, I just never knew you guys honestly accepted job retirements.



Hopefully this has brought to light the hypocrisy of Khaj's removal.

 

[Tristam Green]

The only time you asked why I wasn't attending, I gave you the honest reason of helping my friend with WS points. I was honest and you were rude with me with saying Dynamis is more important than helping my friend. You said I should plan these events outside of Dynamis time. A little compassion would tell you, "Maybe him and his friend don't have a lot of time together?" Attitude such as that makes me trifle at your notion of lolDynamis being a "casual" linkshell.

That alone would turn me off and piss me off at the same time, especially from a shell that labels itself as "casual Dynamis."

 

[Hexx]

I must say all this stuff really makes lolDynamis look pretty bad Kohra. Instead of making your shell look good in the eyes of the general populace, it seems that Khaj wasn't as bad of a guy as you paint him out to be. I would say ya'll (Khaj and lolDynamis) need to take this outside of the FB and really deal with it person to person. It would prolly be best to get all of your MAIN leadership involved so that you all may sort this situation out better.

 

[Davion]

This really could have been settled out of the flameboard really....but eh....

 

[Dowzer]

Oh, nevermind.

I spot Galiant on the left side of the shot too!

 

[Lyall]

It could have been settled out of the flameboard. That said, Khajit wasn't the one who needed to do the rectifying. He felt he was wronged, he was snubbed by the people who he felt wronged him and he came here. That's what the board is for.

Rather than post about how awesome lolD's rules are or how bad Khajit was (or was not) the matter could have been handled by lolD brass outside of the flameboard. Khajit was venting and lolD addressed everything in public instead of tells.

 

[Romper]

Man what happened to the relaxed atmosphere of LolD? Seems like people are taking things way too seriously now.

 

[rampagesama]

Man what happened to the relaxed atmosphere of LolD? Seems like people are taking things way too seriously now.

Quoted it before, quoting it again:

lolDynamis is no longer the shell that it used to be.

 

[Xalioniaf]

Any matter can be settled outside the flameboard. To say that there are things that need to be brought to the flameboard is fucking stupid.
You bring shit to the flameboard to sensationalize and publicize something you think is wrong. Not to resolve anything.

 

[Jeska]

That was my point originally in this thread, instead of calling people out, maybe some quiet discussion with leaders and the op could have avoided all this bad feeling about. Nobody is going to be too receptive to discussion after having their name dragged through the mud here.

 

[Dancingweapon]

Quoted it before, quoting it again:

Be careful, that person you keep quoting wasn't exactly an angel.

Was we Lyrai? :nono:

 

[Hexx]

Be careful, that person you keep quoting wasn't exactly an angel.

Was we Lyrai? :nono:

Doesnt mean its not true, as other people have attested to it. No need to bait someone else DW :nono:

 

[Audino]

Doesnt mean its not true, as other people have attested to it. No need to bait someone else DW :nono:

The FB is the only place where its ok to bait. Although a little elaboration on it would be most welcome instead of a verbal hit-and-run.

 

[Khajit]

OK I’m going to start editing these quotes and cutting out misc bull or at least to make my arguments quicker and clearer to anyone who doesn’t. I’ve been meaning to get to this since Monday but instead I had to respond to the previous lies said by kohra.

More bullshit and inconsistencies and various things I’m going to get around to debunking or that have already been debunked by others. I’m sure you already or just finished reading it so no need to repeat what’s been said.

Now in kohra’s last post we are seeing him claim I am in the wrong, evil or whatnot for THE CRIME OF WANTING TO EARN RELIC IN DYNAMIS. What exactly do you think people attend runs for kohra? The orc livers and lancewood logs? You know the guy behind me? Xxdynamoxxx was the closest to competing with me on said tier. Wanna know what I remember him trying? He once tried to claim that my earning points in dynamis while im being FORCED to use my brd was unfair to everyone else and that I shouldn’t earn points for using azamaria. So here we have a member attempting to make me have a lower point total while almost being able to counterlot me in a highly contested tier. Want to know how many points he was from being able to counterlot me at this time? 0.5. Luckily for me this bullshit was too obvious even for you to play along with Kohra.
Kohra says that he has never had anyone take a naked brd into dynamis. Well is one with a jse harness and martial slacks close enough for a dynamis lord run? Not only that but your brd sounds suspiciously close to that so by the gear standards allowed brds your own bard qualified.

As for your claim that I threw a temper tantrum over losing said brd hat and deleveling? I do not recall doing such a thing and I might have complained to a friend or two but I don’t remember complaining in lschat about it since the rules were rules. However those rules were in place to prevent confusion over who got what and any impropriety by a member whom might change lots mid run. Since the data showed that the actions the rule was established to prevent had not occurred then a leader should have the authority to realize the rule is’nt working at this time. Aka the benefit of the doubt. It was my fault as well for not checking what colour everyone had. I had never memorized dot colour and I barely know it now. I simply read people’s comments and figured out which dot was which from scratch each night. That time I had rushed on putting my comment back on after logging out from khajit and entering on aza.
You are also still claiming ignorance to a lv 75 rdm wanting northlands relic.
I shall give you the benefit of the doubt here due to your mental retardation.

 

[Khajit]

Now. It has been claimed that I am disrespectful to lsmates.
Was it because of the fact that whenever a person complained about changing to a job they didn’t like I said “sell your <job> gear” jokingly?
Is it because of the time that after the haste nerf I said. ‘hey kohra your scythe got nerfed!”
Is it because of the time in a xarcabard run where I noticed something and said the following?
“ WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING IN THE MIDDLE OF A XARC RUN WITH NO THF IN ZONE?” we eventually got one in zone and luckily got the thf in before the first NM. Also. I had waited in xarc pre run on my thf so the fact that I wasn’t on my thf means that the ls made me job change and completely ignored one of the most important(imo but im a thf so it’s skewed) thing to always do.
( we have at least 8~10 thf in our linkshell and yet you place no priority on treasure hunter until you want a drop in a zone. Not only that but for the last few months I have been on the receiving end of snide remarks about my thf not being my job I went as in 100% of all zones AFTER I already entered instead of asking pre run or when I point out that there isn’t any “TH on said mobs it’s STFU khajit why aren’t you on thf?”)

While we’re here I’d like to point out that I have been critical of the ls not placing priority on putting ANY treasure hunter on the mobs in dynamis. I spent several months swapping my job less than 1 minute before my entry to ensure there was treasure hunter in the zone to correct the oversights. Eventually I get tired of this and want to actually use some of my other jobs that the ls is apparently fine with since they never or rarely asked me to change to thf when I was on em pre run. I figured that eventually something might click in the heads of the leaders rather fast and we have a large thf population after all. This lead to the last statement I just made concerning a xarc run. Not only that but no one noticed. They kept on going. “Wow the af/coin rate sucks tonight.” Without actually stopping to think that maybe having thieves there might help.
On the wall of eyes sac pull there is generally only 1 thf in the ls for a xarc run. Because of this you are basically going through one of the largest amount of mobs in the entire zone to farm(or at least the largest grouping for lold) without any treasure hunter on the mobs because the THF is currently dead or at the very least nowhere near the rest of the ls.

Was it the time that we were told brd swapping was too hard during DL zergs and I(along with the rest of the secondary alliance) conspired to try and see for ourselves? The strategy that lold just happens to currently use?
Was it because I expressed dislike for us entering late or joked about us never entering on time? My timezone is EST+1. Going to sleep at 1~2 am(was too sleepy to really keep complete track) is not fun. Making the enter time even later isn’t something that I’m going to be thrilled with and especially so when I’m getting yelled at for falling asleep with 5 minutes left in the run after we enter 15 minutes late . Yes I fell asleep a few times because of this. I used to use the windower plugin light luggage to ensure I passed all coins and relic that I was not in first for in the event of something like that until my pc was no longer working. One or two Ls members have expressed distaste at the thought of me using this plugin in the off chance I had to go afk for 5 minutes due to something like a phone call or whatever.

Is it because of that time when I decided to hang out with a RL friend who logs in maybe 1~2 times a year ingame?
Was it because of the time my COP static decided to be more hardcore than they advertised and threatened to leave me if I didn’t skip dynamis runs for them on 3 paths/pots BCNM/etc random mission where it’s hard to get into a static from and dragged me kicking and screaming into COP completion?
Considering that I had DD jobs and most COP missions involved people taking the easy route and manaburning it I would have been pretty screwed if I didn’t come with them.

Was it because of the time we had a dynamis glacier run and it was “to experiment and see how/if the update affected the fomor drop rates” and I pointed out that it had been several weeks and linkshells on all servers had posted and confirmed that only normal mobs had the droprate increased? I believe the response was something along the line of “STFU khaj. We’re going to test it.”

Was it the time where we had a sandy run on the day of an update and I wasn’t able to get the ps2 updated as early as I planned and had to take an airship in to sandy? Let me see how that run went. Ah yes. I dced a few times at inconvenient times (as the airship rolls in) so I was delayed when trying to get there. I ask if there was anyone to give me a glass. No response. I arrive in sandy. I ask the same question again. Other late individuals ask the same question. No response. So 20~30 minutes of waiting later I arrive at the conclusion that no one is going to let me in. I decide to grab my war test and go complete maat.
Want to know what comment I heard in lschat that night?
“ gee. We could use more DD(or thf) in here . if only one of em wasn’t in the middle of fucking Ronfuare!”
Was it because I stood too close to the person handing out the glasses on a valk run when I was an individual whom has to handout glasses to my pt? “ Stop standing so close to seikatsu. Give her some breathing room”(in a videogame?)

Or was it that run where I was thf in a glacier run while having an ear infection I described as “one of the 3 most painful things I’ve ever had“ to friends and you guys kept on making snide comments about nyosan being the only thf in our glacier run? Oh wait I didn’t say anything to you guys? My bad.

Was it when we were deciding whom would get a relic weapon upgrade next and I found the idea of “choosing the upgrade that will help the shell the most” a tad dubious . I was disrespectful by pointing out that for the cost of an entire relic we could upgrade 1-3 millennium horns, and outfit the ls drks with mercurial kris or rune choppers for dynamis lord zergs would have been more cost efficient and a far better boost to the shell than one relic on a DD or whatever?

I think you considered that “discussion” I had with alberic in lschat once disrespectful. Here’s a summary
Alby: g horn is all brd songs +2 so its awesome
Me: no it’s ballad +2
Ably: no It’s all songs+2
Me: no.. you can buy all +2 instruments except for ballad already. It’s ballad +2.
Kohra( in a /tell): SHUT YOUR FUCKING TRAP OR I WILL KICK YOU!

Or was it because I had a slightly different idea for strategy vs dynamis lord?
Aka. You guys used mnk/drks. I thought that having the drks wear zerg weapons/gear you free up some of the whm’s that have to curebomb the mnk/drks and allow them to either haste the melee zerging DL or they could be free to come as a DD job.
The idea of the drks being curebombed less comes from their 2 hour essentially givine the hp back so any damage cured by a whm is just the damage a stun-gunned DL inflicts on the drks.

Is it because of the time I fell asleep extra early in dynamis by accident? I can understand some anger over that run at least. I basically fell asleep in dynamis windy and wokeup at what I thought was 5 minutes later. Swall and lyrai can confirm this as my reaction acter seeing “time remaining in dynamis: 5 minutes” was “Holy shit I just slept through the whole run.. I thought it was 5 minutes.
Apparently Moriarti spent the better part of the time I was asleep threatening to mkp me and complaining as well. If you gave me points for that run then it’s your own fault since I myself did not expect to get any credit/points for such an event occurring. Isn’t that part of what the glass bazaar system is for as well? To be able to remove members whom are afk too long? Yes no one noticed until we were far away as im told but why not when everyone gathered back around me? Why not then?