Any GLBT players out there?

Porum said:
Oh I know! But I'm a gay male playing a female taru and getting married to a female playing a male elvaan...i think it's hillarious and great at the same time^^
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You got that slightly right. You forgot to mention the "Female playing the male Elvaan" is bisexual who prefers women, i.e. MOI. ^^

As for GBLT playing FFXI, we're out there. But trust me, I'm not advertising it with a neon sign.

Porum knows, my LS knows, and now you guys know.

Pretty much everyone I've run into is supportive, especially my LS. Fellina deserves a special mention. Whenever Fell and I are in a non-static party, and somebody "OMFG THAT WUS GAY", we both race to say "We don't use gay as an insult in this party." which usually keeps them from saying it again, no questions asked.

It is sad, that only opposite-sex couples can marry in FFXI, but what's sadder is the LACK of wedding armor for the guys! I mean, Porum will get the beautiful/adorable wedding armor set, and what will Yomi get? A ring with her name on it. That's _IT_. I'd like some kind of "Formal Armor"

Wow. My posts turn into rants, which turn into tangents...but...yeah.
 
ArmachiA said:
I wish a gay man would hit on me...

Seriously, they're so much better than straight men... >>

Alas, I have boobage ; ;

:wink:
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Oh you have no idea... ;-;

Straight men are children in my eyes (No offence to anyone on the board of course) and I've fallen easily for a few gay ones.

/em sighs and sticks to dating other girls.
 
Kipsy said:
Porum said:
Oh I know! But I'm a gay male playing a female taru and getting married to a female playing a male elvaan...i think it's hillarious and great at the same time^^
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You got that slightly right. You forgot to mention the "Female playing the male Elvaan" is bisexual who prefers women, i.e. MOI. ^^
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Porum and Yomiku are disgustingly cute ^^;

Kipsy said:
It is sad, that only opposite-sex couples can marry in FFXI, but what's sadder is the LACK of wedding armor for the guys! I mean, Porum will get the beautiful/adorable wedding armor set, and what will Yomi get? A ring with her name on it. That's _IT_. I'd like some kind of "Formal Armor"
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Yeah, I was annoyed at the no same-sex weddings thing too >< . And yeah, if you're gonna spend all that money to get married, might as well have the guy get some spiffy clothes too...I'm personally still holding out for Galka in wedding dress ^^d
 
chpal said:
1. What do u think or respond when ppl use the bible as proof that homosexuals are evil? that God made a women and a man. "He made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!" lol i heard that in Comedy central

2. What do u say to the ppl who use biology against gays? for example: a man and a women are perfect for each other, they each have a sexual gland that corresponds with the opther

3. Why is the rainbow a symbol of gayness?

4. Do homosexuals consider themselves girls or guys?

5. One ive heard a lot: Do u think homosexuality is something ur born with or do u aquire these feelings later in life?

Thats all for now. I hope i didnt offend anyone. Plz answer if u want, i would like to hear what gay ppl have to say about so called "gays are evil" proof.
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I'm going to give you my opinion based answers. Now, remember, Opinions are like armpits, everyone has them and everyones stink.

1. I think, like a lot of things in the bible, the debate agaist homosexuallity is outdated. There are lots of things in the bible that people just stopped believing, because they don't fit with the times anymore (no shellfish, no blended materials on your clothing, so forth). I think "Homosexuallity is Evil" is just one of those things, and will eventually, (maybe in 5 years, maybe in 10, maybe in 100) be as outdated as some of the other things people laugh off (shellfish, so forth)

2. If you want to be technical, biology is an explaination for why same-sex people are attracted to each other as well. Sure, most females respond to males in a sexual manner, and most males to females. But, the same biology that causes that, also causes some females to be attracted to females, and some males attract to males. The proof behind this, is the fact that plenty of animals, other than human beings, engage in homosexual sex/relationships. One of the best examples I have, is a pair of penguins in a zoo (I forget which one) they had a family pair together for 10 years at least. And everyone thought the penguins were male/female (it's hard to tell, they were both wearing tuxedos! >_>), but they couldn't explain why the pair hadn't produced an egg. Finally, one of the penguins dies, and they realize that both penguins were male, and had lived as a "couple" for 10+ years.

3. The Rainbow is the gay pride symbol because it symbolizes diversity and unity.

4. Well, as a gay female...I consider myself a gay female...I can't speak for anyone else...

5. Personally (Once again, opinion) I think that homosexuallity is just the way you're wired. I knew at a very young age that I was attracted to women, and never disputed it. I grew up with a loving mother and father, no "gay" influance in my life, and by the time I hit puberty, I knew I was gay. I really don't know how it could be a choice. Would you knowingly choose a harder life for yourself? Would you knowingly choose to live in a way that you know would be prosecuted? I wouldn't. Yet if given the chance to start over, and choose...I wouldn't choose different. I'm happy being who I am, and that's all that matters in life.

I hope my answers were satisfactory for you.
 
I appreciate the Fact that we are talking rationally and logically about this.
A lot has been clarified and many points were brought up, that I have been ignorant to, previously.

But by sheer gut feeling, and some other Points like Aesthetics, human Nature and such, i still disapprove of Homosexuality.

My Question here is though ... Does it make a Difference wether you play with Gay Players or not ? I have not seen Sex discussed ingame, yet and on the Internet the Rule is: "What you See is what you Get ...". How would you know the Difference then ?
So, i really don't see how the train of thought would come up.

I ask this out of Curiosity, because Questions like that aren't exactly on my Mind while i Play FFXI ...
 
Ellah said:
My Question here is though ... Does it make a Difference wether you play with Gay Players or not ? I have not seen Sex discussed ingame, yet and on the Internet the Rule is: "What you See is what you Get ...". How would you know the Difference then ?
So, i really don't see how the train of thought would come up.

I ask this out of Curiosity, because Questions like that aren't exactly on my Mind while i Play FFXI ...
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Does it make a difference? Heck no. I'm as good of a player as I would be if I were straight, and I'm sure you're as good of a player as you would be if you were gay. When it comes down to button mashing, sexuallity is moot.
 
exactly, that was the Point i was trying to make, thanks. On the Internet, questions like that really don't pop up until you go looking for Porn to download, neh ?
 
Ellah said:
exactly, that was the Point i was trying to make, thanks. On the Internet, questions like that really don't pop up until you go looking for Porn to download, neh ?
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Well, this _is_ the off-topic forum, I'm pretty sure that the original poster just wanted to know if there were any other GBLT players out there with them.
 
That's pretty much the reason I started the thread, to find other gay players. Socially, I wanted to know they were out there. On a practical level, I wanted to know how often they heard homophobic comments from other players and how they dealt with them. I'm new to the online gaming experience.

It's sort of the way my editor seeks out a personal physician when he moves to a new town. He always contacts the county coroner for a referral. "The coroner knows which doctors write out the most toe tags and steers you away from them."
 
Well, to get to the origianal topic then ^^ /blush

If i hear/see people use gay/fag/etc. I usually ask them (politely) not to use it. Some are cool about it (think it's normal to use such language and are ignorant to the implications) and some are total assholes. Solution: GM.

The latest one was in Jueno when my LS mate told me that a character named Jzr (i think) had a flee macro that was somethien like "[Flee]: Jzr starts running like a fucking faggot."

Needless to say, I /tell'd him and asked him to change it. He asked "why?" of all things and I just told him that i found it offensive and that if he didn't i'd contact a GM. He said "OK Boss" and that was that. I don't know if he changed it or not but I let him know that it's not something he can do without repurcussion. Sometimes I wonder how someone could say something so stupid...@_@
 
Halifirien said:
That's pretty much the reason I started the thread, to find other gay players. Socially, I wanted to know they were out there. On a practical level, I wanted to know how often they heard homophobic comments from other players and how they dealt with them. I'm new to the online gaming experience."
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Actually I hear 'homophobic' comments at a disturbing rate -- but never targeted against people who are gay. It seems the terms "gay" and "fag" have been co-opted to mean anything bad. If they don't like a player, he's a "fag", and if they don't like the way something works in the game it's "gay".

"gay" is already co-opted from it's real meaning (gaeity: festive, exuberent, bright, joyful, etc.), but it's accepted to call a homosexual "gay" - and being gay, that doesn't bother me. But seeing the term re-co-opted and used to describe pretty much anything negative *does* bother me. Sometimes I'll say something about it, other times I don't. The trouble is, I recognize that some people don't actually intend any offense by it, but use the terms in those ways for no other reason than its the terms their friends use. That still doesn't make it ok.
 
I can definetly see, how you would get offended at that. calling people who are hardcore a Nazi insults me, but sadly i had to accept it as a Cultural Thing *shrugs* i'd rather not though ...
 
how does that make it ok Tyrion? I'm sure the avg person didn't mean to offend using such terms as Negro, Jew, Jap, etc. because that was what was considered "ok" to say as a WASP (white,anglo-saxon, protestant...generalized dominant white man/women). But i'm sure the people that were labeled by those terms weren't so ok about it. So no Tyrion, it doesn't make it ok.
 
here's a fact; using gay in common place speak like:
"Oh my god!! look at that, it's sooo gay . . ."

makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

now let's look further into this; the college/ university paper, use gay in that connotation outside of a narrative paper.
"The foreign policy of the United States is gay, many internal and external factors are to blame; for example . . . "

Examine the grade.

realize you're still a fucking idiot
 
Dirgesong said:
here's a fact; using gay in common place speak like:
"Oh my god!! look at that, it's sooo gay . . ."

makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

now let's look further into this; the college/ university paper, use gay in that connotation outside of a narrative paper.
"The foreign policy of the United States is gay, many internal and external factors are to blame; for example . . . "

Examine the grade.

realize you're still a fucking idiot
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/em falls over laughing...

Sorry, but, the "college" paper line reminds me of what people used to write in high school for papers rofl...I live in a horrible little backwoods boondock town.
 
I understand that ppl get insulted when someone uses "gay" to describe something. But they dont mean gay gay. Like "ewww! that chair is soo homosexual!" Ppl use gay as a insult that has nothing to do with himosexuality. Thats my opinion, I think its ok as long as the person isnt using it to bash homosexuality.
 
chpal said:
I understand that ppl get insulted when someone uses "gay" to describe something. But they dont mean gay gay. Like "ewww! that chair is soo homosexual!" Ppl use gay as a insult that has nothing to do with himosexuality. Thats my opinion, I think its ok as long as the person isnt using it to bash homosexuality.
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Well, think of it this way, they might not be using it to bash homosexuallity, but, it still sounds that way to us.

I don't know you're race, but, just, assuming you're white...how would you feel if somebody said

"OMG THAT'S SO WHITE" about everything that was sucky, or bad?

It would kind of make the hair on your neck stand up, and make you wonder if they realize that it's offending anyone...

At least, that's my opinion.
 
Kipsy said:
I don't know you're race, but, just, assuming you're white...how would you feel if somebody said

"OMG THAT'S SO WHITE" about everything that was sucky, or bad?
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I would laugh like hell. One of my black friends calls me "honky" all the damn time, and I tell him not to get any black on me, and we're cool with that. :lol:

If that sort of shit bothers you, that's just too bad.

Kipsy said:
It would kind of make the hair on your neck stand up, and make you wonder if they realize that it's offending anyone...
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Please don't put words or feelings into my mouth, or I'll tell you what you can put in your mouth. :roll:

PS: My cat told me to tell you "Mrwaor."
 
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