Apology.

[Kotsu]

So long as someone doesn't force their perspective upon someone else, than that seems fair Fire. It's when people take the extra steps toward making others feel like crap, or making them feel stupid, weak, insecure, etc. when it's not even provoked or deserved. That's where that comes from. I know I'm hypocritical with that, but that's part of life. We all step on eachothers toes sometimes, but Tec apologized for it. I think Meeze is ok with it and doesn't take it to heart.

 

[Shaunessy]

So long as someone doesn't force their perspective upon someone else, than that seems fair Fire. It's when people take the extra steps toward making others feel like crap, or making them feel stupid, weak, insecure, etc. when it's not even provoked or deserved. That's where that comes from. I know I'm hypocritical with that, but that's part of life. We all step on eachothers toes sometimes, but Tec apologized for it. I think Meeze is ok with it and doesn't take it to heart.

And this is what Meeze does in his anti-rmt crusade. Should he apologize?

 

[Kotsu]

I don't think anyone forced an apology of Tec either. He may just be sincere as he's re-read what he's typed. Maybe, just maybe.

 

[Pompidou]

You would judge someone with their actions in real life based on the game?? Are you fucking serious?? Please quit the game. What does one policatal veiws or socialogical views about one race being superior have to do with the fucking fact if he can refresh or not?! Sure racism is the most retarded thing since the cosby show, but as long as they don't spew their ignorance to my party then I'm fine and dandy. But if you are going to shaft someone because of their veiws on thing in real life, or they simply posted their ideas online.

And to me you sound like the kind of person who would think that every time the word "******" is used, you think that is it used to describe a black person, well it's not. The word is sometimes used to desribe a ignorant person or a slave of any sort, since most people who worked for few or no pay were without knoweldge.

And you sound like the kind of person who takes everything out of porportion and spreads from what you have read from qcdn by camping forums while jacking off to them.

People make mistakes and people have certain views, but almost NEVER do things like this come up in the game, and NEVER does it dictate wether or not if they can goddamn fucking refresh.






Oh and this whole, "At least he had the currage to apologize." Imho, I think he's a fucking coward pushover. I bet he gets all walked over. "Waaa Waaa, Mommmmy, a couple people from QCDN are saying they won't invite me to their party, so I'll go apologize." Fucking pathetic.

I think your replies reveal more about your character than mine, and not in a positive way. Apologizing is a sign of good character. All you've done is make big angry rants. Even Meeze, who was the target of the event leading to the apology recognizes the apology as a good thing. There's no debate here. Lots of people screw up. Most never own up to it. Tec did.

 

[Euphacent]

Tec is Emo. That is all.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Uzor]

I think your replies reveal more about your character than mine, and not in a positive way. Apologizing is a sign of good character. All you've done is make big angry rants. Even Meeze, who was the target of the event leading to the apology recognizes the apology as a good thing. There's no debate here. Lots of people screw up. Most never own up to it. Tec did.

Saying you're sorry doesn't show good character. Everything every person do is out of their own interest, subconsious or not. When you apology, you have your best interests in mind, aswell.

That being said, apoligizing while you're a kid, or towards a kid, is something I consider right, since that's part of showing them what's right or wrong. But apoligizing for an opinion is something I think is plain out wrong, and doing that is something I consider a weakness.

If you do a misstake, like accidentally MPK'ing your own party, sure, tell them you're sorry. But if you've given someone your opinion abotu something, there's no need to say you're sorry. There's no right and wrong in opinions, and thus, you did nothing wrong. Why apoligize? When you do apoligize for your opinion, that's weak.

 

[Darkdante]

Saying you're sorry doesn't show good character. Everything every person do is out of their own interest, subconsious or not. When you apology, you have your best interests in mind, aswell.

That being said, apoligizing while you're a kid, or towards a kid, is something I consider right, since that's part of showing them what's right or wrong. But apoligizing for an opinion is something I think is plain out wrong, and doing that is something I consider a weakness.

If you do a misstake, like accidentally MPK'ing your own party, sure, tell them you're sorry. But if you've given someone your opinion abotu something, there's no need to say you're sorry. There's no right and wrong in opinions, and thus, you did nothing wrong. Why apoligize? When you do apoligize for your opinion, that's weak.

Too true.

 

[Mielle]

S...... I think Meeze is ok with it and doesn't take it to heart.

Meeze doesn't have a heart

 

[Blackmagik]

Meeze doesn't have a heart

neither do i, i rape eyes 24/7

 

[Inunabe]

That was more then an opinion though. It's easy to give out an opinion with out resorting to name calling and whining like a baby. What good is an opinion if it can't be civil? As soon as he added in all the other crap it became a flame and not an opinion, which then caused meeze to be pissed.

Plus Tec might not have been apologizing because he was afraid to get in a party or banned from qcdn. Some people actually feel remorse for getting carried away with things they do and things they say. Society nowadays has warped what the idea of a true apology. You don't always hafta be doing it to get out of punishment. You don't hafta always be doing it to change someones opinion. I don't think he was apologizing for his opinion as so much as getting carried away with the other stuff. That doesn't make him. That makes him a better person for realizing he got carried away. I say koodos to you Tec

 

[Tec]

I didn't apologize for my opinion, Luzor.
I still think Meeze is a little overboard on his opinion, I just apologized for being a douchebag to him and cutting him down every chance I got.

 

[Inunabe]

*bows* Thank you thank you. Kudos Tec....Kudos

 

[Uzor]

I honestly don't think that thread was bad enough to warant an appology, but w/e

 

[Tec]

I honestly don't think that thread was bad enough to warant an appology, but w/e

Well, when I see 5 or 6 people jump me and one say he will never trust anything I say then I must have done something wrong.
I just realized how dumb it is to derail every thread Meeze posts in and call him out on certain things when in the end it doesn't really matter at all.

 

[Shaunessy]

Well, when I see 5 or 6 people jump me and one say he will never trust anything I say then I must have done something wrong.
I just realized how dumb it is to derail every thread Meeze posts in and call him out on certain things when in the end it doesn't really matter at all.

Yeah, total derailment is probably wrong, but if you do it to different people some of the time it's not as bad as doing it to one person all of the time. I mean look at my rep here. I'm an upstanding QCDN personality^^

 

[Ewok]

I think most of the community has a pretty good concept of right and wrong. Unfortunately, people's tolerance here for different points of view is very, very low, which might drive people who are generally good people but disagree with the main stream on one point into extreme frusteration.

This is a very good point.

 

[Ewok]

Saying you're sorry doesn't show good character. Everything every person do is out of their own interest, subconsious or not. When you apology, you have your best interests in mind, aswell.

That being said, apoligizing while you're a kid, or towards a kid, is something I consider right, since that's part of showing them what's right or wrong. But apoligizing for an opinion is something I think is plain out wrong, and doing that is something I consider a weakness.

If you do a misstake, like accidentally MPK'ing your own party, sure, tell them you're sorry. But if you've given someone your opinion abotu something, there's no need to say you're sorry. There's no right and wrong in opinions, and thus, you did nothing wrong. Why apoligize? When you do apoligize for your opinion, that's weak.

Depends on how you opinion was given. I've apologized in RL for being too harsh. There's honesty, and then there's just immaturity.

 

[Uzor]

Depends on how you opinion was given. I've apologized in RL for being too harsh. There's honesty, and then there's just immaturity.

The thing is, in most cases, to get your oppinion through (especially IRL), you need to be harsh.

You don't get anywhere in life being nice. To get anywhere, you need to be good at ass kissing, and being harsh. If you're nice and go with the flow, you will be stepped on and used. Life isn't easy, and life isn't a play ground. And life certainly isn't as fair as your parents want you to believe.

A good example is school. Most girls are attracted to the tough guys in school. That's why they're popular, for being cool, and also arrogant. They take their place, push others around. Those are the ones that get somewhere. Then you have the nice kids, that would be much better for most girls, but they're not the ones that are seen. They're not considered popular, because they don't take their space.

You won't get far being nice and apoligizing for presenting your opinion in a not so nice way. You won't get far by going with the flow, and you certainly won't get far if you never speak your mind. There's 2 ways to success; Being smart, and being an asshole. The most successfull people are both.

 

[Burne]

A good example is school. Most girls are attracted to the tough guys in school. That's why they're popular, for being cool, and also arrogant. They take their place, push others around. Those are the ones that get somewhere . Then you have the nice kids, that would be much better for most girls, but they're not the ones that are seen. They're not considered popular, because they don't take their space.

You won't get far being nice and apoligizing for presenting your opinion in a not so nice way. You won't get far by going with the flow, and you certainly won't get far if you never speak your mind. There's 2 ways to success; Being smart, and being an asshole. The most successfull people are both.

I agree with you partially, but I disagree with that part. In my experience guys like that grow up to be losers and girls get over that. Nice guys don't always finished last. Hell I rather not finish than change who I am.

 

[Uzor]

I agree with you partially, but I disagree with that part. In my experience guys like that grow up to be losers and girls get over that. Nice guys don't always finished last. Hell I rather not finish than change who I am.

When I said "Those are the ones that get somewhere", I was talking abotu school. Yes, later on in live, the ones that gets somewhere are those that were the less popular guys. And most girls, at that point, realize that the cool popular guys are something thye don't want. So it all changes around at that point.

HOWEVER

Those guys are usually not assholes. They are usually just "tough". The true assholes are the ones that get somewhere, those are the business guys. Smart guys get somewhere by being smart, in more then one way. You can get a long way being an asshole, and even further being smart on top of being an asshole.

Asshole does not equall being tough. Being tough is the result of putting on a fake mask, pretending to be something you're not in order to get everyones attention. An attention whore, if you will. These are the fake assholes, that are actually just arrogant and self centered.

Edit: to clarify, some tough guys aren't pretending, but the majority are. They do this is a defence mechanism. Put others down before they put you down. That way, they won't have to worry about being rejected.

This is the reason I hate people who just go with the flow. Do something because its "cool", and act in a way that's expected of them. Its not the real them. You can see it like this.

A person puts on a mask, this mask represents the person they pretend to be. On top of this, they dress according to what's "cool", and "hip". They also make false morals and values that they dnon't really believe in, and also hides feelings accordingly. Its like putting a person in a really itchy sweater, they don't like it, but they think they'll be more liked because of it. People hate being outsiders, and hope they'll be more popular by being like everyone else. Kinds have horrible self-worth nowadays. Its sad, really.

I wrote a poem about this in a lyric competition a few years ago actually. I won <.<;