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Dowzer said:
Then why did they give it to him...and not another WHM ? huh?
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Cause he played the role of a hardcore gamer till he got the item he wanted?
 
Elemmire said:
god damn you hume darks >.> getting you confused... bah! And they did point out why they gave it to him.. cause they wanted to get the LS stronger and giving a WHM that tunic made the LS stronger and they felt he could be trusted with it and participate as much as they needed or whatever. Now.. that might not be great reasons but that's what I got outta it. But I have always believed that it takes far longer than 2 months to earn gear that's rare or so expensive as the nobles tunic. The fact he got it in 2 months was very kind, in my opinion. Disappearing for a month for RL is ok but giving back the Tunic until you return would have been best. They wouldn't have sold it and they would have still had that tunic to make use of. It was wrong for them to kick him after they took the tunic back instead of letting him get a chance to continue being there and "earing" it (cause it was pretty obvious he was willing to do that from what I've gathered). But reason was given as to why it was given to him in the first place. They should have prolly made it more clear though that they've had issues with WHM in the past taking things and leaving and made it clear they want to make sure it doesn't happen this time but that's in the past now too.. soo.. all in all I think Busta should appologize for not letting the LS use the Tunic while away but WYS should appologize for kicking him without giving him a chance and should let him back in and try to avoid things in the future like this (and make it known to Busta, if he joins again, and other members that things won't go so fast as this with the kicking).
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I'm glad the armor I got from them was rare/ex in that case.

Since when did they start doing that? When I was in the shell, they had a point system. Whoever had the highest points during that month, would have the right to cast lots on which dropped.

Shining cloth has always been a big issue with BoL. If there wasn't a WHM around who had enough points to lot it, they would sell it for the linkshell bank.

Unless things have vastly changed since I left, Busta earned that Tunic in the 6 weeks he was there. Please note, that in 6 weeks that is enough time to accumilate the points needed.

There was also an issue of a WHM Penut leaving the shell and everyone thought he sold the Tunic. BOL took the biggest shit on him and gave him no respect for "stealing their tunic" which he had earned. They need to stop giving out the tunics like they're fucking candy, since they are so pissed about losing them.



Whatever happened to DBLANES KIRIN OSODE? That's too bad he didn't realize how much it is actually worth. But I haven't see any flames about him compared to Penut, mainly because Dblane's still in the shell. IMO that doesn't change the fact of the matter. The item was lost.

Will Dblane get another Osode?

I'm gonna have a good laugh if he does.
 
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- Busta was around when other WHMs jacked BoL's Nobles.
- Everyone in the ls knows that a Nobles is a loan until you've earned it.
- Busta ignored WYS' /tells because it was about the nobles, and acted afk.

Busta, do you really think you've earned a 16mil equip??!? wtf about us blms, we go up all the time and all we fucking get is a piece of toilet paper called A: hands, and you think you earned a fucking nobles in 2 months?

yes i'm happy you brought a kid into the world, hell, i fucken stood up for you when people were asking "where the fuck is busta," i told them to lay off cause you just had a kid and your taking care of your business, but honestly, dropping everything REAL LIFE aside, you fucked it up when you thought u could ignore the BIG BOSS' /tells because you had a feeling that you were going to have to return the LS' nobles.

All watch did was something called "LOSS PREVENTION." If you were ignoring his tells, it just meant that you were thinking of jacking the nobles and leaving the LS anyways, but you tried to save some face, and after an HOUR of contemplating,****PRETENDING TO BE AFK****, ****CHATTING WITH SHIN AT THE SAME TIME****, you FINALLY decided to man up and reply to WYS' /tell AND ls spam calling you out.

please dont reply with a 1. but he had a kid, or 2. some other bs

- he gets a nobles, and RIGHT AFTER, goes MISSING IN ACTION for 6 weeks, wow what a coincidence.
- he comes back, and IGNORES WYS' /tells because HE KNEW THE NOBLES WAS A LOAN!!! did you get that part?

sorry man nothing against you but if you know me, I always put the LS first and when i'm on, I do shit to better the LS as a whole. And thats my 2 cents.
 
And WYS lotting two A.Abj: hands + Vanishing for a few weeks is totally cool. Gotcha.
 
Moch, you are an idiot.

At the point when Busta willingly gave the tunic back under the premise that he would then be able to come back and play with you guys and earn it back, all rights to flaming him for anything even remotely close to selfishness went out the window. This is literally the trump card to your pitiful attempt at an argument.

Furthermore, this bullshit about the "BIG BOSS," please dude. You only help to perpetuate WYS's delusions of grandeur. Get a motherfucking grip and go outside.
 
Moch's not an idiot, he just has his head a little too far up watch's ass, like most of the people in BoL. Which is why watch is a complete dick, compared to back when he formed the link and that red pearl was a badge of honor and was lead by someone worth being honored to be in a link with.
 
Pompidou said:
Busta apologized several pages back. WYS on the other hand, only came in to flaunt an ego and tell people they weren't worthy to post.
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Uh...

Watchyourstep said:
But I do apologize for removing you as everyone is seeing it. I had already considered the tunic lost, but seeing as how you made this flame only 5 mins later and not trying to resolve it, sorta fucked up yet once again. Anyhow, gratz on the baby, talk to me in-game and we'll work out a issue.
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WYS's whole first post had a lot of meritable points. A lot of aggressive points too, but considering the amount of shit his LS had to swim through over this topic, I think it was all due.

WYS is a good guy. From my short stint in BoL, I liked him the most of all the leaders simply because he was very understanding. I had limited game time, more than half of which was devoted to my social LS and myself. I explained this to him in defense of my low weekly participation, and his reply can be summarized with "it's cool. RL > FFXI, we all know it". That was that, I wasn't getting in any trouble from anyone after that. I was hurting my own chances at god gear / points, but that's it.

If Busta had explained the situation more beforehand or during the events of this 2-3 month period, the Tunic would have been a miniscule issue at most. I think the biggest point here that BoL leaders are defending, is that they were not informed by Busta. They thought he stole the Tunic, when Busta simply could not spare the time to update them on his status.

Game, set, match. Understandings have been reached by both sides. No 50-pager today -.-

P.S. I believe Dblane managed to buy another Osode back the same way he lost his, luckily.
 
Oh and Decidence receiving full god gear and quit showing up until it was obvious. He may have still logged on every now and then. But there was no way he was "active in sky". But yeah, I guess his classes just suddenly changed when semester started up again. What a coincidence that he couldn't showup to the weekly Friday night Kirins.

I remember the famous words of, "Whoever wants a Haidate should be camping Ullikummi's ToD"
 
Mithe said:
Moch, you are an idiot.

At the point when Busta willingly gave the tunic back under the premise that he would then be able to come back and play with you guys and earn it back, all rights to flaming him for anything even remotely close to selfishness went out the window. This is literally the trump card to your pitiful attempt at an argument.
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What about the point where WYS said if he turned up to Gods on Friday that he could have it back? He decided to come here and flame instead...
 
hahah <3 Mokk

but i dont have my head up anyones ass. The LS knows that. I'll crack shit at you regardless of who you are.
 
Blowy said:
What about the point where WYS said if he turned up to Gods on Friday that he could have it back? He decided to come here and flame instead...
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Or what about the part where he gave the tunic back and said he wanted to come back to shell and earn it, but instead was tricked, stolen from, and kicked out with no fair shot to bust his ass for the tunic?

It's clearly shown he wanted back in to earn it, which is why he willingly gave the tunic back. We're not talking about some jackass that just said "hay screw yoo guys ima keep teh tunic whether you invite me back or not". What he did was a good show of faith and he was treated like dogshit. There are no amount of words that can explain that shit away.
 
Mithe said:
Or what about the part where he gave the tunic back and said he wanted to come back to shell and earn it, but instead was tricked, stolen from, and kicked out with no fair shot to bust his ass for the tunic?

It's clearly shown he wanted back in to earn it, which is why he willingly gave the tunic back. We're not talking about some jackass that just said "hay screw yoo guys ima keep teh tunic whether you invite me back or not". What he did was a good show of faith and he was treated like dogshit. There are no amount of words that can explain that shit away.
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then explain why he went ignoring watch's tells for an hour?
 
Blowy said:
What about the point where WYS said if he turned up to Gods on Friday that he could have it back? He decided to come here and flame instead...
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Let's put this in perspective:

WYS feels/gets ignored (coulda been afk, dunno, don't care)
Shin comes to talk to him about nobles.
Busta gives back nobles because he's offered a shot at redemption.
Busta gets kicked twice.
Busta asks WTF?
WYS: "PSYCHE"

Let it happen to you then tell us all how you understand.
 
Mithe said:
Moch, you are an idiot.

At the point when Busta willingly gave the tunic back under the premise that he would then be able to come back and play with you guys and earn it back, all rights to flaming him for anything even remotely close to selfishness went out the window. This is literally the trump card to your pitiful attempt at an argument.

Furthermore, this bullshit about the "BIG BOSS," please dude. You only help to perpetuate WYS's delusions of grandeur. Get a motherfucking grip and go outside.
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and what makes you think i dont go outside? I gave an unbiased point of view and you have no valid points in your argument.
 
Moch said:
then explain why he went ignoring watch's tells for an hour?
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He gave a legit reason which was he was afk with his kid. I go afk all the god damn time, to cook dinner, to study, to watch things. Just random shit.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to just completely lose track of tells and never see them? I'll tell you this much: It's extremely easy.

For the screenshots he's shown, there were NUMEROUS BoL members spamming him with tells. His screen was literally filled with them from all different people. It's not hard to have tells wiped off the log especially with you people flipping out and tell spamming the shit out of him.

I'm almost positive I've missed a good 30 - 40% of the tells sent to me in FFXI because I've been afk for a lot of time while I chill in Jeuno, because that's what most people do in Jeuno.

Like I said in my first post about this, WYS mostlikely sent him tells while he was away, his own fucking LS members wiped Busta's screen of them by acting like little children and spamming him, then Busta finally responds to him when he gets a chance between all the mess that's being thrown at him, and he gets lied to and treated like ass. And again, in my original post, I stated he mostlikely had to make up some bullshit excuse to himself like "omg busta is ignoring me this is bullshit" and made himself even more angry than he previously was. This isn't just a guess, I feel pretty positive about this from the way you guys post with no solid ground, just petty arguments and the same tired bullshit.
 
Moch said:
and what makes you think i dont go outside? I gave an unbiased point of view and you have no valid points in your argument.
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So instead you target Mithe and ignore all my valid points.
 
Dowzer said:
So instead you target Mithe and ignore all my valid points.
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Dude he can target me all he wants. I'll throw that "I think I know everything while licking my LS leader's ballsack" attitude right back in his face.
 
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