Ariesol and Hellstorm from Serene Eternity

[Rhaddy]

God damn it, 44 pages already guys. Is there a Cliffnotes version or something? Atleast tell me it is juicier than "lolhellstorm."

Don't kid yourself.

 

[Mattaru]

Don't kid yourself.

Don't let him kid you either, sorry Rhaddy but please.

But really after alot of vent talk its essentially mistakes were made at first and alot of the shell leadership was not able to be contacted until recently and the situation is now being handled. The rest is the usual FB overblowing etc.

 

[jyakotsu]

are you getting the stone back >.> more important than SE giving you the bird

Secondly no matter what u say Matt, SE leadership fails for saying what they did... including their leader who said I Condone Stealing

 

[Master Honcho]

I'd like to thank Master Honcho for this gem (no pun intended):



I am definitely using this the next time some idiot comes into the bank demanding his overdraft and insufficient funds fees be reversed because he doesn't know how to write things down in a check register and/or balance the damn thing.

lawl

<-- total insomnia atm and work early tomorrow @.@ think im gonna go steal some nms from people at sky like hellstorm said that i did to them

im curious where the hell that even came from.. never said what or where... w/e


just another cop out to get heat off his lolLS atm.. meh

 

[Rhaddy]

Don't let him kid you either, sorry Rhaddy but please.

Sorry, regurgitating "lol hellstorum spel funnay" or "meta haet NA long time keke" sorta gets irritating

 

[Mattaru]

Sorry, regurgitating "lol hellstorum spel funnay" or "meta haet NA long time keke" sorta gets irritating

lawls.

 

[Isomiau]

are you getting the stone back >.> more important than SE giving you the bird

Secondly no matter what u say Matt, SE leadership fails for saying what they did... including their leader who said I Condone Stealing

dont you have a DM run to setup, overcharge, then not show up for? Christ man. Do you beat off to this shit or something? I'd wager another 2 gil you've replied here more than all the members of the Flock combined. Seriously tho, is it hard to type with a pole shoved so far up your ass?

 

[Blazeoffury]

As sad as this shit is, I'll lay it out plain and simple.


No one cared 2 years ago, no one cares now.


There's assholes in this game, and there's respectable people in this game.


The latter is hard to come by.

 

[jyakotsu]

dont you have a DM run to setup, overcharge, then not show up for? Christ man. Do you beat off to this shit or something? I'd wager another 2 gil you've replied here more than all the members of the Flock combined. Seriously tho, is it hard to type with a pole shoved so far up your ass?

you still have friend Esticking up for your genderly challenged ass? I mean come now, i present you the same shit i posted to Tok, you dont like it? You can stay the fuck outta the post... Your attitude alone is one that matches Lengel's Hellstorm's and Ariesol's. No wonder Serene eternity welcomed you with open arms, maybe you should communicate w/ one of your hacker friends as well... then you'd fit in 100% w/ serene eternity... Attitude, Stealing, AND hacking..

Dont throw shit at me dude, anything you have on me... i have 20 times worse on you.

Dont try to derail a thread because you dont feel like reading it anymore. Go talk to Tokash about how to make a pizza, or maybe go Cybar moar w/ him on TS. Wasn't it you that tried to derail a thread because you were jealous of Isac's gf? i mean come now... dont even try

 

[Jeska]

That why I left SE way before they made themselves HNM. Since I knew CST people was doing to join them. Not worth my time. Dont get me wrong there like 2-3 people that I know are good people but the leadership stinks.

SE used to be CST? Wow I knew a bunch of people there last year when it was still CST but that group changed a bit and I never really stayed in contact with them.

 

[Manasha]

We (Dejan, Matt and myself) had a very positive conversation with Meghan and Alvaster this evening on vent. We believe we have come up with a solution that will rectify this situation. This will be handled Tuesday after maintenance.

We turned to QCDN to bring to light our complaints on how the Despot situation was handled. If everything is done the way that Meghan says it will be, we feel that they have made an effort to try to make things right.

On that note TheFlock requests that the flames stop for now. Tomorrow evening Dejan will post all the details of this evenings discussions. I know some people may want to keep this going. But we do hope that people will respect this request.

 

[Isomiau]

you still have friend Esticking up for your genderly challenged ass? I mean come now, i present you the same shit i posted to Tok, you dont like it? You can stay the fuck outta the post... Your attitude alone is one that matches Lengel's Hellstorm's and Ariesol's. No wonder Serene eternity welcomed you with open arms, maybe you should communicate w/ one of your hacker friends as well... then you'd fit in 100% w/ serene eternity... Attitude, Stealing, AND hacking..

Dont throw shit at me dude, anything you have on me... i have 20 times worse on you.

Dont try to derail a thread because you dont feel like reading it anymore. Go talk to Tokash about how to make a pizza, or maybe go Cybar moar w/ him on TS. Wasn't it you that tried to derail a thread because you were jealous of Isac's gf? i mean come now... dont even try

HA! Seriously, i really said "HA!" Just like that too. What the flying fuck are you talking about? Post what you know then bitch, i don't have any digital secrets. Ya fucking tool...

SE used to be CST? Wow I knew a bunch of people there last year when it was still CST but that group changed a bit and I never really stayed in contact with them.

Technically it was Triumph that merged with SE. The dozen or so kids who were still around then at least...

 

[Marajade]

To those who seemed to have a problem with the posting on QCDN: Do you actualy think this would have been resolved if they haddn't? Putting it here brings it to the attention of a decent % of the server. I'm betting if word of this didn't circulate, or if the thread haddnt been so popular, theyd just have flipped the bird and not even talked to TheFlock beyond "lol, mine now"

 

[Isomiau]

Balu refuses to level, figured i'd pluck your bullshit apart...wouldn't want to disappoint the maintenance masses while they're awaiting their FF fix...

you still have friend Esticking up for your genderly challenged ass?

Riiight, cause i play a mithra...so does that mean you're really a midget trapped in a grown body?

No wonder Serene eternity welcomed you with open arms,

They welcomed me because i was then, and still am one of the top monks on our server.

maybe you should communicate w/ one of your hacker friends as well... then you'd fit in 100% w/ serene eternity... Attitude, Stealing, AND hacking..

i guess you're grasping at the fact that i ran with Antares? A pearl which i immediately dropped after Chaysm's "post of the year" For the record, i never once personally witnessed anyone hax in Antares, but seeing their hidden I-I4>< forum was quite enough for me. And Serene is too stupid to hack shit. They may fail at damn near every aspect of this game, but they dont hack. They just legitimately suck.

Dont throw shit at me dude, anything you have on me... i have 20 times worse on you.

I can sling shit, like for instance, is it frustrating to cyber with someone who spells worse than Hellstorm?

Dont try to derail a thread because you dont feel like reading it anymore.

h'ooooooooooooooooK, cause that never happens here at QCDerailN...

Go talk to Tokash about how to make a pizza, or maybe go Cybar moar w/ him on TS.

Oh we did, matter of fact, after talking about toppings and layering cheeses, i came.

Wasn't it you that tried to derail a thread because you were jealous of Isac's gf?

http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=44970

Theres the thread, dumb shit...so, what jealousy now?

i mean come now... dont even try

Me, i dont have to try. But you can keep up your crusade to better the Quetzacoatl population by chiming in on every flame with your 2 bitch cents all ya like. K cupcake? :bb:

 

[Tristam Green]

I always thought this was a reticule:

this is a reticle, CmdrFly.

 

[Phraust]

Thread locking.

I just spent the last hour responding to the thread about the failing logic displayed in the "Honcho & The Flock vs. Ariesol, Hellstorm, & Serene Eternity" case.

I feel that in many cases, a lot of these discussions are ended well before thier time. The people involved and the exact incident may evolve into a grander, more general discussion about concepts. When you, as a leader, request for a thread to be locked so you can just sweep it under the rug; you must realize, in that case, you have not solved the problem, you have just covered it up. If you are in the right, you have nothign to worry about. If you have issues maintaining integrity within your shell and you feel it's easier to hide your problems, you are failing on levels that will lead to greater problems down the road.

What I read personally in the aformentioned thread were people agruing that stealing based on glitch in the game's design is not ok, and the thieves cohorts, and one of the thieves themselves admit it was wrong but not thier fault. Then the political body put in place to attone for thier actions ran afoul by suggesting that the victims apologize for warning the public about thier actions.

Call me old fasioned, but in the world I live in, people are held accountable for thier actions, and the rapist cannot demand an apologee from the person they forced themselves apon because they went to the police...


To the court of public opinion,

If you chose to be in society, may it be 'real life' or 'in game' or any other social arena, you will be bound to your reputations. If you lay with the dogs, you will get fleas. And your indifference nets you no gains. You may think you have no quarter in the arguments presented in that thread, but let me remind you, when your reputation and character are up for discussions for things like group memberships, and the like, your past transgressions do indeed come up.

Think about that the next time you wonder why for four years, the furthest you've gone in this game is sky, why there are players 'above' you, why you can't get an invite, and why no one wants you in thier linkshell.

To the Flock as a whole: I think you got your money's worth from that stone. You aquired something greater than a chance at Byakko's drops. Foul language aside, you guys did the only thing you could do. And you were in the right and held your ground.

To Serene Eternity: The people who decided to figurehead your shell and represent you have made a mockery of you. They came into a thread with tarnished pasts, ill morals, and poor polotics. To the remaining memebers with integrity, the events in this game are easy, and linkshells are all constantly recruiting, don't get stuck in bad situations, where you have to settle for mediocrety.

 

[evanos]

Well said, I totally agree with this. Who locked the other thread anyway? I didn't see a mod at the end saying who/why it was locked. I don't see why other than the fact that they wanted people to stop talking about it.

 

[jamal]

Yea, I purposely didn't respond or read Hellstorm's post last night because I didn't wanna be on the site responding all night...now I check in the morning and its been locked :/

 

[Phraust]

Holy shit!

I fought the law and I won!

 

[Zyndara]

I agree with you, Phraust, that the whole point of bringing these threads up is to point a spotlight at something and leave room for it to be discussed. I think that particular thread was locked because the leaders of The Flock, to their credit, took the opportunity to talk about and resolve the issue w/ SE and its leaders privately and did not feel the need for the thread to continue. The creating of the thread resulted in the resolution of the problem, and bottom line is that is what matters.

While I absolutely agree with you that these threads bring up things that are very much worth discussion, when people randomly start talking about pizza or it becomes the newest pissing contest between Jyak & Isomiau, the point gets lost and the thread dissolves into...well where it started to go at the end there. There comes a point when the injured party has said their piece, others have come to refute or support, and all that really needs to be said has been said. People will read that thread and judgements will be formed, but, seeing where it was headed, would you honestly think something more valuable was going to come out of it?

Although I wish, after following all those pages of thread, that we knew what kind of resolution it all came to, in the end, it's their linkshells and their business. I am glad that what went down was brought to light here, not only because it spurred people to action but because it served as a community warning, and I'm also glad to hear that they were able to sort it out. I will personally be more wary of certain people in the future, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

EDIT: And yet.... it's open again. lol Carry on. I'm going to sleep. XD