Nasya said:
[...]The current posts in regard to the grievence Villarel brought up, considering the quality of your post here i would be interested to hear what insight you have on the current issue, as a completly removed party from the events.
~later.
OK. After re reading everything twice...
I want to Know a couple of things:
What was the RDM's feelings on the situation?
How many times had Kisada atemted this?
How long did Kisada last?
How much health was left on the NM?
The main problem here, I think we could all admit, is that the problem really has nothing to do with him killing off a group. It was obviously an accident. And I think Kisada would know a whole lot more than to take on something he couldn't handle. Shit happens however. In that zone, even at lvl 75, there is no real safe place to kill that NM. Why do you think people choose to level there? It's a safe spot. The problem really isnt about somone being dumb, because they are not. The problem is that somone ihas been leveling for hours, and the threat of disrupting the EXP flow is the main cause for annoyance. On average you make 4,000 exp/hr, some more, some less. it takes about 15 minutes to ge tto the area where Nari spawns, and buff up, even with recharging sneak/invis, and you lose about 500 exp if you get a raise II. So the tedious task of killing stuff, and basically being pest control for Onzozo, had extended another 25 minutes. Less than half an hour... But when you have either just started and are getting use to the group or have been there for hours and are in the zone for fighting, 25 minutes seems like an eterity. Especially when you have the repetition of walking through the same area again.
Also I would like to point out that this is an interesting post because there is one thing that happened that doesn't usually happen... There was somone to blame... How many times I have personally been in Onzozo and had a group come in camp right next to us, pull a link, and escape. But it's hard to point finders at a group isn't it? But when you see some badass Ninja waltz in and bust up a higher level NM solo and 90% or his gear is Rare/Ex, and all dropped from thtings that require 18-25 and sometimes 60 people to get... It's kinda hard to forget who they are. and when the 'Bad Link' happens to be a Higher Level NM... It's just adds more to the memory. My point is. THis 'Sub Post' Would have never happened if the person was a regular guy that tried to solo a Torama or something and died near a camp while trying to escape.
Your RDM did the right thing by trying to keep him alive. I would have suggested the rest of your group HELP. IN the Immortal words of the movir Brazil: "We're all in it together." (Damn that's been coming up a lot recently...) If your group had been a little more Pro-Active, Maybe he wouldn't have died, and maybe your group wouldn't have either. And in the end, you would have a story for another thread, possible 'Good Times' that was a story about how you helped this High level Ninja kill Nari... And you would be in good graces with a HNMLS... But alas, it's always easier to burn Bridges isn't it... Last note on this: My dad has a saying that kinda pretains to this: "People never have the time to do something right. But for some reason they always end up having time to do it over..."
I can understand the Posting and anger by the OP(well not the original OP but you get the point). It is frustrating. Frustrating but excusable. You lost 25 minutes. That's 5 cigarettse consecutively. Fuck man... It took me longer to write this post... If this game can generate that level of frustration, you need to take a little break. Not that i am bashing you, I am not. Just think of other players as 'Pops'. Like whern you are in a safe camp in the jungele and out of nowhere a gob pops in the center of your camp. Sometimes you get an odd occurrance, that can be just as random. You didn't lose more exp from it being a NM, you just died quicker, which Ironically you should be somwhat greatful for in an odd sort of way...
[though... it is the flameboard, so no surprise there] Whenever I write a serious post in here, and especially when I am tired, I try to cover all the points in an organized manner to keep myself from rambling. This means there is always an outline of my arguments in my head. Considering the diminutive manner in which others posted (discussing grammatical constructs, hooked on phonics and accusing people of having a lack of courtesy), I figured it would simply be following the example of belittling others by making my posts outlined. 
. However, the topic you are posting about was resolved in october, and at that time the thread died. 
