Ascension can kiss my f***ing ass

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Nasya said:
(meh... I hate end of term... even responses to a flame come out like an essay '-';; )

Actually it kinda sounds like a teacher talking down to her kindergarten class. I'm sure your a nice person and all, but the way you outline almost sounds like your talking down to someone :/

and I like Kisada, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt (He saw me in Jueno and sent me a tell after my hellish dirvorce [orz] and subsequent hiatus from the game.. and like actually cared that I was back! >>). Hi Kisada! (LOL)
 
Nasya your analytical layout is superb and earns merit if this were English 110, you win!
 
ArmachiA - perhaps it was a bit diminutive, but no one has been or given kind each other any sort of credit in this conversation :( [though... it is the flameboard, so no surprise there] Whenever I write a serious post in here, and especially when I am tired, I try to cover all the points in an organized manner to keep myself from rambling. This means there is always an outline of my arguments in my head. Considering the diminutive manner in which others posted (discussing grammatical constructs, hooked on phonics and accusing people of having a lack of courtesy), I figured it would simply be following the example of belittling others by making my posts outlined.

Svina - Why thank you, you know... i think this is the first time you actually insulted me outright. I guess cordial treatment of each other, and the edict of "I don't start shit, I only react" would only last so long. What a shame :( (I am serious, its a pity.)

To be honest I got the idea from you and Villarel. Your elaborating on the fact that one of the words in "I'm Sorry" is a contraction especially (saying that people need to learn to say two words, especially in the context of this conversation, is plenty enough of an inference towards the phrase "I’m sorry"). I figured "hmmm, if we are going to talk about getting 'hooked on phonic' (the s was left out in the quote) and grammatical structures, why don't i turn my response into an outlined argument, from the themes i chose to focus on, to continue the trend of insulting the readers by batting them over the head with inferences towards common phrases or making accusations about not understanding content clearly."

Frankly i don't give a damn if it receives 'merit' or a fault from you, the content of the argument is solid, and here it is without an outline since you seem to think it belittles the validity.

Kisada didn't in any way cause Nari to bring danger to the PT; it aggroed the pt because of their RDM's actions. As the 'rant' is against Kisada, it is unjustified, and is an act of libel on his name. Furthermore by piggy backing the rant on this post it sullies the name of the LS as well.

I am sorry you had a bad day Villarel, but please point blame where blame is due rather then venting at the expense of others.

That’s all.
 
Whoa =d people take me seriously? It's 5 in the morning and I scalded my mouth with hot soup! It wasn't an insult. Just was amused by how your reply made me feel like an English TA or something. 8)
 
Why are so many people replying but not Kisada? Why dont we just leave this argument between the people it is with lol...
 
Because this whole topic shouldn't have even started since Kisada wasn't to blame in this situation. Nas covered that quite thoroughly in her last post.
 
See this is just sad...

I know most of you in game, not necessarily personally, but I know the general sense of who each of you are.

Svina, you are a good guy, Knowledgable, fun to fuck with, and an active member of the community both on the server and on the message boards.

Ascension has come from a rocky history of being fucked over. And from the members that I know, I know that they have strived to be exceptionally respectful towards others.

Now both of those comments being on the table, I feel it my duty to step in here a sec and give a couple of words.

Yes even though a person that is repectful or generally helpful is so most of the time, we all have our mean streak. I mean look at me and my actions towards gil sellers.... Occasionally there are things that pop up in our histories that give us bad marks. Unfortunately there are concequences to said actions that can result in adverse affects. Even if the named people did indeed, may it be out of boyish foolery, or malice, train a bunch of crabs on you while you were fighting Aquarius, there is no way in the forseable future you would neither get an addmition nor would you get an apology. An addmition of guilt would get them kicked out of the linkshell, and an apology would be an addmition of guilt.

And just because somone Shouts thier head off at another doesn't give license to close your ears and your mind. Even the most heated argument that is held in high voices has a message. Yes this whole situation was handled poorly on both ends, luckily it has been a bout of wits rather than the usual slinging of flames. Not to say you guys aren't flaming each other, you are, but you just hide it better than most.

The point is that you people are actualy too damn smart to be having this argument...

Point be known, that this has a lot more to do than with a crab, that has become self evident by all the other shit that's been popping up. You guys are Rivals. Plain and simple. You will always butt heads. But it's a game. Competition is good. Jokes, pranks, and good humor are better.

Ascension:
Keep in mind the next time something happens to Svina, some group members may pull the card: "Oh its Svina, he just has a grudge on us." When your members may infact be acting with malicious intent. Does the Phrase: "When the cat's away, the mice will play." ring a bell? Unless there is an Officer of Ascension there to witness, there may be no one to validate the foul. And since you have shown your loyalty in beliving your LS over all, you have shown your strength, as well as your weakness....

Svina:
Ascension has a lot of good people in it, in fact some of the people there are in my top 1% of people I respect. (Not Scypio he's a little punk =P). So please do not bash an entire Linkshell based on the actions of a few people that may have acted questionably.
 
Phraust, wonderful post, its insightful and unbaised :). However, the topic you are posting about was resolved in october, and at that time the thread died.

The least three pages were written over the last two days, and they are what we are currently discussing. The grievence brought up was by Villarel, who decided to post on this thread rather then create his own.

Brining up old wounds is never a popular thing, and so many of us who would have left this topic alone joined in rather actively, Svina included (not stealing comment in reply to almaut and what not). Anyway... I just wanted to make sure you were aware that there are actually two flames contained in this one thread, because you did not mention the topic at hand but rather only touched on the one that had been started and resolved long ago. The current posts in regard to the grievence Villarel brought up, considering the quality of your post here i would be interested to hear what insight you have on the current issue, as a completly removed party from the events.

~later.
 
Well crap...

I generally have been the one to put topics back on track when they get derailed... I notice this happens a lot.. I didn't look at the dates..

Now I need to go and actually geat hte other 50,000 posts to figure out what the beef is now..
 
& where the fuck is the god damned edit button?!?!?!?!

Well I coincidentally stopped at page 4 of posts.. I read this thread and thought it was a new one. And since I know Svina and Ascension mambers I was trying to make peace..

Look at my sig and you will understand my folly..

I will from now on:

Read the entire post and all threads in post before inserting my good/ill will/
I will Check dates...

You gotta admit though...

Kisada soloing Nari?
You shouldn't flame the fucker! You should comend him for trying!
 
Mephosis said:
Hi.

Just for the facts; I did not turn sneak on. I did not run through a herd of robber crabs. If you ran into a ‘herd of crabs’ then you must have gone out of your way to do so.
MPKing yourself, <3.

Now, I don’t really care about what you think about me or how dirty you’re going to play, but this has nothing to do with the Ascension LS nor does it have anything to do with Arcien who was simply there for a francisca.

Anyway I will be available for you to 'Rock Buster' monsters next to me while I am botting. Wait.



Bye.
MPK Assassin Mephosis
um okay so because your there for a fucking ex axe that meens you have more claim to the mob than someone else.... um no! Get in fucking line! training on someone is soooooo fucking lame just wait your fucking turn for a shot at an NM like normal people and not try to steal claim like a fucking brat, jesus fucking christ do the server a favor and delete your charecter! the game will be better for it! leetist brat bastereds like you should just eat syionide!
 
Heh, yeah there are the good and the bad, can't deny that. Just some grudges are sorta "real" and the rest are just playful competition, to me anyway. S'just a game after all. What would a game be without shit talk? No fun, that's what.
 
Nasya said:
[...]The current posts in regard to the grievence Villarel brought up, considering the quality of your post here i would be interested to hear what insight you have on the current issue, as a completly removed party from the events.

~later.

OK. After re reading everything twice...

I want to Know a couple of things:
What was the RDM's feelings on the situation?
How many times had Kisada atemted this?
How long did Kisada last?
How much health was left on the NM?

The main problem here, I think we could all admit, is that the problem really has nothing to do with him killing off a group. It was obviously an accident. And I think Kisada would know a whole lot more than to take on something he couldn't handle. Shit happens however. In that zone, even at lvl 75, there is no real safe place to kill that NM. Why do you think people choose to level there? It's a safe spot. The problem really isnt about somone being dumb, because they are not. The problem is that somone ihas been leveling for hours, and the threat of disrupting the EXP flow is the main cause for annoyance. On average you make 4,000 exp/hr, some more, some less. it takes about 15 minutes to ge tto the area where Nari spawns, and buff up, even with recharging sneak/invis, and you lose about 500 exp if you get a raise II. So the tedious task of killing stuff, and basically being pest control for Onzozo, had extended another 25 minutes. Less than half an hour... But when you have either just started and are getting use to the group or have been there for hours and are in the zone for fighting, 25 minutes seems like an eterity. Especially when you have the repetition of walking through the same area again.

Also I would like to point out that this is an interesting post because there is one thing that happened that doesn't usually happen... There was somone to blame... How many times I have personally been in Onzozo and had a group come in camp right next to us, pull a link, and escape. But it's hard to point finders at a group isn't it? But when you see some badass Ninja waltz in and bust up a higher level NM solo and 90% or his gear is Rare/Ex, and all dropped from thtings that require 18-25 and sometimes 60 people to get... It's kinda hard to forget who they are. and when the 'Bad Link' happens to be a Higher Level NM... It's just adds more to the memory. My point is. THis 'Sub Post' Would have never happened if the person was a regular guy that tried to solo a Torama or something and died near a camp while trying to escape.

Your RDM did the right thing by trying to keep him alive. I would have suggested the rest of your group HELP. IN the Immortal words of the movir Brazil: "We're all in it together." (Damn that's been coming up a lot recently...) If your group had been a little more Pro-Active, Maybe he wouldn't have died, and maybe your group wouldn't have either. And in the end, you would have a story for another thread, possible 'Good Times' that was a story about how you helped this High level Ninja kill Nari... And you would be in good graces with a HNMLS... But alas, it's always easier to burn Bridges isn't it... Last note on this: My dad has a saying that kinda pretains to this: "People never have the time to do something right. But for some reason they always end up having time to do it over..."

I can understand the Posting and anger by the OP(well not the original OP but you get the point). It is frustrating. Frustrating but excusable. You lost 25 minutes. That's 5 cigarettse consecutively. Fuck man... It took me longer to write this post... If this game can generate that level of frustration, you need to take a little break. Not that i am bashing you, I am not. Just think of other players as 'Pops'. Like whern you are in a safe camp in the jungele and out of nowhere a gob pops in the center of your camp. Sometimes you get an odd occurrance, that can be just as random. You didn't lose more exp from it being a NM, you just died quicker, which Ironically you should be somwhat greatful for in an odd sort of way...
 
ultraseven said:
ok... moving right along... because this is a dead subject... stop bringing it back to life. thanks.

Onto a new subject: Doofuses who take control of my thread! :evil:
 
Yoshindor said:
um okay so because your there for a fucking ex axe that meens you have more claim to the mob than someone else.... um no! Get in fucking line! training on someone is soooooo fucking lame just wait your fucking turn for a shot at an NM like normal people and not try to steal claim like a fucking brat, jesus fucking christ do the server a favor and delete your charecter! the game will be better for it! leetist brat bastereds like you should just eat syionide!

um, hi.

/deletes bastered cherecter
 
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