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Audino said:
I bet if we voted it still wouldn't matter because in a privately owned site you don't have a democracy.

Ok, so just to let everyone know now, we as a user don't have a say in anything because this isn't a democracy.

Audino said:
Not everything a moderator does needs to be or deserves to be questioned.

When was the last time an individual on this site has questioned a mod on everything they did? Members only bring up issues with mods not to bait them or "be against" them, but to show a disagreement. If you can't understand that, perhaps you don't deserve to be one since you obviously can't handle a position in a hierarchy with power.

Audino said:
I really don't think you, of all people, should try to hold some credibility considering what the majority of the user-base thinks of you. I know you're such a badass and you don't give a fuck what people think about you or not.

"I really don't think 'you', of all people,...", Oh you have something personal against me now? That's another thing individuals with some type of "power" in any area or aspect, let it be x = some company, a family, linkshell, or an online forum, should not let happen. Once you start taking things personally, the fabric of a coherent x starts to degrade. Whether I'm a badass or not really doesn't matter here. That's your personal opinion, and really I don't care.

Audino said:
I'm glad you like my jargon and I'm glad your point is so weak that that is what you have to resort to. Making fun of a word that I use.

My point is weak? Well I bet if we voted, everyone on this site would agree, the post xMod deleted in my response to exo and the last post you bashed on have a valid point in response to other threads in that thread.

Yeah my point was so weak you had to basically give us all a dead end, calling this not a democracy, make fun of my signature, insinuate no one on this site likes me because of your personal opinions towards me and close the thread so members can't respond to your post.

Audino said:
Consider this thread locked now that its just another attack on moderation. As a warning to everyone now, not just myself, but the staff as a whole is sick and fucking tired of everyone's attitudes towards moderation. Expect less toleration for it in the near future.

Oh please, you feel a little pressure from the general user-base because a bunch of people don't agree with what you did, so you back out and lock the thread with a final flame mocking me and blaming it on an attack of moderation. Trust me, if this was an "attack", you do fondly call it, against moderation, we would list names of other mods we knew that was deleting posts all over the flameboard that were on topic.

But no, don't you see everyone was targeting you, simply because it could be... an attack against you? People didn't blame the decent moderation of other mods on this non-democratic board for the things we don't agree with what you did. So you shouldn't try and spread the aggression towards the other mods to relieve the weight you put on your on shoulders.

If anything else, you're a hypocrite yourself. You said you and or other mods deleted posts that were off topic only. The topic of Art's thread was "Wakmidget". Not "Art's grammar and spelling", and not "What do you think of the way I flame". He was there to show his opinions and anger and asked not to be flamed on his English, which was obviously to keep the tread from going to shit like it did. I didn't see you deleting the posts that were bashing him on the way he expressed himself and not on the original topic of Wakmigdet, that went on for a good 4-5 pages.

So no Audino, we are not attacking QCDN moderation, we were disagreeing with something you did.
 
Ok, so just to let everyone know now, we as a user don't have a say in anything because this isn't a democracy.
He's right though. The mods can hear what the userbase has to say, but that hardly means that they have to act on it.
If you don't like it, leave.
 
I know he may be right in a view.

But then why do we hold polls on forum decisions? Because everyone has an opinion. The point that the fourms are not democratic should be a point everyone knows tacitly.

He only used that excuse because of the circumstances around the thread in question.
 
Fail. You're bitching because someone called you out. Yes, you're attacking QCDN moderation by the tone and content of your posts.
You're whining like a snot-nosed little bitch because you know you're wrong.
Your point about Artie's post is completely in-fucking-valid. People were having trouble finding out what he actually was trying to say, because instead of putting in the effort to make a clear concise point, he was just rambling on. People are going to ride hard on that, especially in the Flameboard. Although this goes for any section, but especially on the FB, why post if it's just a pile of shit?
You don't have any say in what happens here. If the mods were to poll about everything, do you honestly think anything would get fucking done? Oh, wait! You do have a say. You can PM them, respectfully. Post in Feedback, again respectfully, and well thought out. Failing that, stop coming. As long as you keep coming here, without trying to remedy anything, like you have so far, you support everything the mods do. If you really want to make a point, but can't rise up beyond bitching and whining, leave. GTFO. And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
 
Fail. You're bitching because someone called you out. Yes, you're attacking QCDN moderation by the tone and content of your posts.
You're whining like a snot-nosed little bitch because you know you're wrong.
Your point about Artie's post is completely in-fucking-valid. People were having trouble finding out what he actually was trying to say, because instead of putting in the effort to make a clear concise point, he was just rambling on. People are going to ride hard on that, especially in the Flameboard. Although this goes for any section, but especially on the FB, why post if it's just a pile of shit?
You don't have any say in what happens here. If the mods were to poll about everything, do you honestly think anything would get fucking done? Oh, wait! You do have a say. You can PM them, respectfully. Post in Feedback, again respectfully, and well thought out. Failing that, stop coming. As long as you keep coming here, without trying to remedy anything, like you have so far, you support everything the mods do. If you really want to make a point, but can't rise up beyond bitching and whining, leave. GTFO. And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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But he's right...
 
Is the attack Audino gravy train done yet? Its several days old and the full moon has been gone for 2 nights.
 
I don't understand why people think that - if they call someone out publicly - they'll somehow change something. If you're really concerned about the behavior or someone, addressing them privately about it tends to have better results.

(Though the FB is a better choice for your OP instead of S&F.)
 
Mal and Lang, do really, -really- think Art's post was THAT hard to read?

You could not understand it? Let's be reasonable. It doesn't take anything more than a middle school education and the ability to put words together, even when they're slammed together with poor capitalization due to someone's emotions.

So what you're trying to say is, his post was that bad that you couldn't understand any of it. So why not try and help him? I don't know about you but even the people who didn't say anything about the mechanics about his post could read it.

... what does that say about the two of you plus the handful that attempted to derail his flame.

We all know his post was "below average" to a well written one, but still. It was clear he was mad and just wanted to vent. But regardless of what you say on QCDN may it be "he's a retard, he's in 3rd grade," or whatever, be honest with yourself, you're a smart person and it was readable.
 
Ok, so just to let everyone know now, we as a user don't have a say in anything because this isn't a democracy.

When it comes down to it? No. If an idea is presented, enough people support it and administration agrees its in the sites best interest, things will happen, sure. But again, its when administration or the owner agrees. Its up to them and they have the say.

Princemercury said:
When was the last time an individual on this site has questioned a mod on everything they did? Members only bring up issues with mods not to bait them or "be against" them, but to show a disagreement. If you can't understand that, perhaps you don't deserve to be one since you obviously can't handle a position in a hierarchy with power.

Maybe you need to understand that things are much better done in private. If you want to throw a fit in public, I will address you in public. Things get solved much better when you instead send a PM and ask "Hey, how come this and this happened?" instead of saying "You're a fucking dumbass" and the like. For the people that know me, that are my friends, and hell... even a bunch of people on here, they'll tell you I'm not completely unreasonable. There's a particular user on here that had in issue in PMs with moderation and he and I have butted heads many times in the past. Talking things out calmly, an understanding was reached. Had a stink been thrown about it in public, I wouldn't have been as nice. I'm not here to eat your shit so when you try, I'm going to shove it back in your face, sorry.

Princemercury said:
"I really don't think 'you', of all people,...", Oh you have something personal against me now? That's another thing individuals with some type of "power" in any area or aspect, let it be x = some company, a family, linkshell, or an online forum, should not let happen. Once you start taking things personally, the fabric of a coherent x starts to degrade. Whether I'm a badass or not really doesn't matter here. That's your personal opinion, and really I don't care.

Yep, I do. So do a lot of people on here. Hardly anyone takes you seriously on this board because you consistently act immature about various topics. When you repeat behavior like that, you make your own bed. Do my personal feelings affect my moderation to you? Nope. I'll just do whats fit. I really don't care if you personally attack me or just attack me because you don't like the recent moderation. An attack is an attack, so don't get your panties in a bunch just because I'm not as quick as past moderators to just brush it aside and let you look cool.

princemercury said:
My point is weak? Well I bet if we voted, everyone on this site would agree, the post xMod deleted in my response to exo and the last post you bashed on have a valid point in response to other threads in that thread.

And a vote doesn't matter, again.

princemercury said:
Yeah my point was so weak you had to basically give us all a dead end, calling this not a democracy, make fun of my signature, insinuate no one on this site likes me because of your personal opinions towards me and close the thread so members can't respond to your post.

It was closed because the thread was started about Wakmidget and to tell the grammar nazis to QQ. It wasn't started to be a moderation bashing parade.

princemercury said:
Oh please, you feel a little pressure from the general user-base because a bunch of people don't agree with what you did, so you back out and lock the thread with a final flame mocking me and blaming it on an attack of moderation. Trust me, if this was an "attack", you do fondly call it, against moderation, we would list names of other mods we knew that was deleting posts all over the flameboard that were on topic.

Yep. Pressure from the userbase makes me afraid. Thats why I'm here posting to you.

princemercury said:
But no, don't you see everyone was targeting you, simply because it could be... an attack against you? People didn't blame the decent moderation of other mods on this non-democratic board for the things we don't agree with what you did. So you shouldn't try and spread the aggression towards the other mods to relieve the weight you put on your on shoulders.

If anything else, you're a hypocrite yourself. You said you and or other mods deleted posts that were off topic only. The topic of Art's thread was "Wakmidget". Not "Art's grammar and spelling", and not "What do you think of the way I flame". He was there to show his opinions and anger and asked not to be flamed on his English, which was obviously to keep the tread from going to shit like it did. I didn't see you deleting the posts that were bashing him on the way he expressed himself and not on the original topic of Wakmigdet, that went on for a good 4-5 pages.

So no Audino, we are not attacking QCDN moderation, we were disagreeing with something you did.

I apologize I didn't spend enough time hitting F5 constantly looking for PC+1's and I missed a few. A million apologies to you and the public. Next time instead of being a little bitch about it, why don't you use the report function and say "Hey, here's a PC+1 thats off topic." So many people on here are quick to bitch, yet don't even lift a finger to help. You didn't see me getting every post? I didn't see you do anything but cry about it. When Artie told the grammar nazis to piss off in his very very first post, he opened himself up for a ton of bashing about his typing and flame style.

To all the people that think my personal opinions play such a huge part in what I do, well.. good for you. I guess you're just looking at what you want to look at. Anyone that knows anything knows that myself and say... Lavi, for example are not the best of friends. I've never deleted a single one of his posts and as long as he's consistent in the way he handles himself on the boards, I never will have to regardless of content. (Sorry to use you for an example Lavi)

Well, QCDN, I believe you've done it and we can start making this official. Look at how its went down. I'll do my best for chronological order. Colbwa, Isotope, Peregrine, Vang, Neolink, Meeze and then Jamal most recently. I'll be the first to say it always. Everyone on this site needs a public enemy #1, and now you guys got it again after such a brief absence of one. Its just really too bad that a simple mob mentality isn't going to be enough to get rid of me like in most cases of the others. Its really too bad that constant berating of the way I handle things aren't going to make me say "this isn't worth it."
 
Mal and Lang, do really, -really- think Art's post was THAT hard to read?

You could not understand it? Let's be reasonable. It doesn't take anything more than a middle school education and the ability to put words together, even when they're slammed together with poor capitalization due to someone's emotions.

So what you're trying to say is, his post was that bad that you couldn't understand any of it. So why not try and help him? I don't know about you but even the people who didn't say anything about the mechanics about his post could read it.

... what does that say about the two of you plus the handful that attempted to derail his flame.

We all know his post was "below average" to a well written one, but still. It was clear he was mad and just wanted to vent. But regardless of what you say on QCDN may it be "he's a retard, he's in 3rd grade," or whatever, be honest with yourself, you're a smart person and it was readable.

You have got to be one of the biggest f'n tools on this forum. I'm a troll. I come and go and post here and there. Shit like this is great food for me. I see the normal shit you spew, and most times I just skip over it because you are said "tool", but this, this has just fed me a 7 course gourmet meal.


The motherfucker wanted to flame someone, so he came to QCDN. Even though he was suffering from diarrhea of the brain, he proceeded to type incoherently, flaming the population of the very same forum he is crying on. What in the fuck does he think is going to happen?

Of course, he was thinking, "Hey I'll call out every motherfuckin' grammar nazi on the whole forum with my first post and they won't say anything about it".

It's the FB you f'n morons! You call anyone or anything out and there is going to be retaliation. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that, but it does take someone with an IQ above an 8 year old level. Looks like that is something you and your pal don't have.

The moderators are doing a job. I'm not going to pat them on the back and I'm not going to burn them on the stake. They do what they think is right at the time, and that is all they can do. Sometimes it's good, sometimes not so good, but it was the decision that had to be made at the time, so we all have to deal with it.

Hey, Audino, get back to work. Miros, quit hiding in the closet, and Morwen.. Go make me a sammich! =P

Peace,
Shmed
 
As much as people don't like to think of it like it it's nothing like a democracy and there is no free speech on QCDN. You can't say anything they don't like and you will be censored if you don't play by their rules. It's very easy for people to abuse there power and shut you down because whose going to stop them?

Think of QCDN as a place of employment, a job. And Audino is your boss. If he hears or in this case reads something in his opinion that he doesn't like, ie goes against "policy" he can reprimand or tempban you. If you don't like it you can do one of two things. You can tell your boss to go fuck himself in which case you get fired or in on QCDN permabanned or you can quit and go blog somewhere else.

Either way they have all the power and you play by there rules.... So it's your choice take it or leave it.
 
What a depressing life the mods willl lead when FFXI goes down.

I appreciate the concern, but I think I'll be able to manage quite well.
 
You pussies should just get off Audino's nuts, he's doing a great job.
 
What a depressing life the mods willl lead when FFXI goes down.

It's the people like you I worry about more than the moderators on internet forums. People act like moderating is so damn time consuming and life altering when really it's something that takes up almost no time at all and you're doing it to better a community despite jackoffs who do nothing but troll (such as Euphacent). People can moderate a forum without it becoming their life. It's just as easy to turn that logic around on trolls and say "What a depressing life you'll lead when you have no one to mock on forums", but trolls don't get the point so why bother.
 
Mal and Lang, do really, -really- think Art's post was THAT hard to read?

You could not understand it? Let's be reasonable. It doesn't take anything more than a middle school education and the ability to put words together, even when they're slammed together with poor capitalization due to someone's emotions.

So what you're trying to say is, his post was that bad that you couldn't understand any of it. So why not try and help him? I don't know about you but even the people who didn't say anything about the mechanics about his post could read it.

... what does that say about the two of you plus the handful that attempted to derail his flame.

We all know his post was "below average" to a well written one, but still. It was clear he was mad and just wanted to vent. But regardless of what you say on QCDN may it be "he's a retard, he's in 3rd grade," or whatever, be honest with yourself, you're a smart person and it was readable.

If I want to read a post that looks like it was written by an angry, 10 year old brat, I would become a fifth grade teacher. My 9 year old niece can write a more legible post than the one in question. It's not to much to expect an OP to be well thought out and well written. It shows consideration for others who will read it, that the poster cares about what they are posting, and the maturity that should come with growing older. Posts like artie's show laziness, immaturity, and a seeming lack of intelligence. It's not hard to transfer a thought into a complete, coherent sentence.

And there was no derail of the flame. He brought up his grammar in the OP, therefore it was free game. If he had not of harped on it, it would have been considered a derail. In a way, he self-flamed, just as every poster who posts like that does.

For those that like to whine and complain about the admins on this site, grow up! Learn to voice you disapproval of the way they handle things in a constructive, not destructive, manner. I am pretty sure the admins will be more receptive to that than the usual whining and complaining they hear. If you don't want to be treated like a whiny, 10 year old brat, don't act like a whiny, 10 year old brat. If you act like a whiny, 10 year old brat, expect to be treated as such.
 
I think this is the second time that you are flaming the mods and once again people are telling you to get over it. I'm incredibly sick and tired of people getting overly emotional when their post gets deleted or they break the rules and get caught/infractioned. Audino said it best when he says that you'll bitch about a couple of PC+1s left over, yet won't use the report feature to alert us of it. Are you about making QCDN a better place or did you just wanna go back to a time where it really did just plain suck and there were no regulations that made certain forums easier to follow?

I am very tired of people referring to this site as a shithole. I don't want to hear from my friends in game that they often times tell people to avoid this place. If you will always believe this will be a shit site that has no future then tell me now and I will be more then happy to show you to the door. If you have a problem that you would like to see resolved on the forum...well...I am just a couple of clicks away in private messages.
 
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