Bandwagon jobs going to see more?

You're talking pre-merit parties, where the squishy VT mobs for 75's die just as fast and give twice the xp, it's different at 75.
 
Stouter said:
I've only partied with one war/nin ever that voked mobs that the bard had slept, and less than 1/4 of all war's I've partied with even use Provoke. I've reached the point where I stopped trying to remember all the bad cannon players and just remember the few good ones, if I remember the name but don't remember them being good, I'm hesitant about partying with them.
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i aggre with that point!! the cannon shit made a lot people level wars for example and they simply suck. A LOT of war forgot to buy their scroll of provoke. Hell ive even made a pt where the nin didnt want me (the thf) to trick atk him because he would have hate.. an i usually do SA+ws and TA alone so that i end up tanking instead of the war or nin, after all i have more eva than any nin.
 
Khajit said:
Hmm now that I realize there was no way the jp mnk shouldnt have had ashuran fists I wish I could remember the name so that I can ask if they have it next time....
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Two suggestions. Spell Asuran right. Get their name so you can never invite them again.

There are only two things absolutely, 100% required on MNK. 1: Asuran Fists at 71. 2: UNLOCKED Destroyers at 73. If they don't have these at the first possible instant, they should not be leveling.
 
Sorry about spelling it wrong. I tend to think of the word "Ashura" when thinking of the WS which is ...um a way to describe it would be a god killing/eating demon. And yeah I agree there are some things every job should have asap.
For mnk its unlock your ws right away and unlock destroyers.
I have a bad? tendency to assume everyone comes with the best gear they can reasonably get. When I saw tons of dragon kicks I assumed that they had one more level left to obtain it.
There are just some things so goddamned obvious you should have I tend to forget that there are people too lazy to obtain it.
 
Think its war that can get the quest WS before lv 70 but only get trail of g axe thing at 71
all other jobs they just hit skill for the wSNM at 71
 
Khajit said:
I have a bad? tendency to assume everyone comes with the best gear they can reasonably get. When I saw tons of dragon kicks I assumed that they had one more level left to obtain it.
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It's pretty easy to browse the forums of each job, (Killingifrit or the like, not allakagimp), read the gear stickies, and make conclusions. Only doing yourself a favor by being able to recognize gimps of all 15 jobs. Yes, there are 18, but the last 3 are so populated by idiots that you're probably better off not knowing if they're gimp. _-_
 
Kire said:
Think its war that can get the quest WS before lv 70 but only get trail of g axe thing at 71
all other jobs they just hit skill for the wSNM at 71
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...Any A+ weapon will have the skill for the WS at level 70, and won't be able to equip the weapon (or get the quest outside random game glitches) until 71. Please, stop talking.
 
Mai Ikari said:
...Any A+ weapon will have the skill for the WS at level 70, and won't be able to equip the weapon (or get the quest outside random game glitches) until 71. Please, stop talking.
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i am sure tribune said he had enough skill to get the G axe at 69 war
 
Kire said:
i am sure tribune said he had enough skill to get the G axe at 69 war
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Caps at 246 on A+ weapons at 69. If he did, then he was merited, which isn't pertinent to this discussion, like Mai said, stop talking.

http://ffxi.somepage.com/skilldb/
 
Kire said:
i am sure tribune said he had enough skill to get the G axe at 69 war
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Yea, he would. I was referring to

all other jobs they just hit skill for the wSNM at 71
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Which is untrue of any A+ weapon.
 
jamal said:
Caps at 246 on A+ weapons at 69. If he did, then he was merited, which isn't pertinent to this discussion, like Mai said, stop talking.

http://ffxi.somepage.com/skilldb/
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If the info on ffxiclopedia was correct, the Great Axe QWS need 240 skill, kinda suprised me. But you still can't get the quest until 71, while Blazn was saying you can get it at the time you get the skill.
 
I think kire found someone who lies about shit as much as he does.
 
Mai Ikari said:
If the info on ffxiclopedia was correct, the Great Axe QWS need 240 skill, kinda suprised me. But you still can't get the quest until 71, while Blazn was saying you can get it at the time you get the skill.
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If memory serves correctly, the WS is a 250 skill ws, if you can get the weapon quest at 240, then thats my bad
 
 
Mai Ikari said:
If the info on ffxiclopedia was correct, the Great Axe QWS need 240 skill, kinda suprised me. But you still can't get the quest until 71, while Blazn was saying you can get it at the time you get the skill.
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i said u could get it at 69 but u cant get the ws weapon

Kire said:
Think its war that can get the quest WS before lv 70 but only get trail of g axe thing at 71
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See can get WS at 69 or 70 forgot but can not get the G axe till 71
 
Kire said:
i said u could get it at 69 but u cant get the ws weapon
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No you didn't. You said:

Think its war that can get the quest WS before lv 70 but only get trail of g axe thing at 71
all other jobs they just hit skill for the wSNM at 71
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Let's break that down.

"Think its war that can get the quest WS before lv 70"
Do you mean the quest or the WS here. If quest, wrong, if WS, half-wrong.

"but only get trail of g axe thing at 71"
True for every job, though a couple have it even later.

"all other jobs they just hit skill for the wSNM at 71"
Wrong term, and flat-out wrong, any A+ job gets the skill at 70, or even earlier if they've got a silly multijob weapon like WAR.
 
With merits you can use Evisceration at 63 as a thf if you've unlocked it as another job.
 
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