Basic Guide to Dark Knight...

Ruffyreborn said:
no, what Im saying is Im pulling off these WS's easily and constantly, no missing whatsoever.

Guillotine can miss, and can miss a lot, leaving your damage like crap.

The consistancy of Spiral Hell is far higher than Guillotine. All you do is grab martial scythe, get 100%tp, then abs-tp. That is all I did.

Also, I didnt use souleater several times, and still pulled off 1.3k-1.6k hits. Far more effective than Guillotine. You know DRK has those other abs-spells for a reason, I dont know why over half of you 'elitist' drk dont use them, when you should know better than not to.

But I guess the player base will always be stubborn?

while you're buffing up after getting 100TP, I'vealready hit 100tp, abs tp, got a few melee hits and ws'd again.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
The consistancy of Spiral Hell is far higher than Guillotine. All you do is grab martial scythe, get 100%tp, then abs-tp. That is all I did.

So if I'm reading this correctly, you get 100%tp, THEN you cast abs-tp for more tp? Let's explore this a bit here. You get 100%tp, you cast abs-tp, you finish off whatever's left to get over 200%tp (so that martial scythe fires at 300%tp), then you ws. Then you have to start over building tp again. You consistantly do about 1400 damage.

Now you have a drk with a better dmg scythe. They do a Guillotine at 100%tp for about 1k damage. Then use abs-tp and within 1-2 hits can do another 1k damage Guillotine. Neither of these need SATA or any kind of buffs at all.

Now which is better again?
 
Rappa said:
So if I'm reading this correctly, you get 100%tp, THEN you cast abs-tp for more tp? Let's explore this a bit here. You get 100%tp, you cast abs-tp, you finish off whatever's left to get over 200%tp (so that martial scythe fires at 300%tp), then you ws. Then you have to start over building tp again. You consistantly do about 1400 damage.

Now you have a drk with a better dmg scythe. They do a Guillotine at 100%tp for about 1k damage. Then use abs-tp and within 1-2 hits can do another 1k damage Guillotine. Neither of these need SATA or any kind of buffs at all.

Now which is better again?


You do know, the scythes arent much better after martial, lol. Ive got an Orichalcum, and the damage is barely noticable. Sure I couldve went with a tredicim, but one critical every 13 hits is kind of useless.

As for guillotine, you cannot constantly do 1k+ damage every WS. You just cant. Sure, maybe every so often you can, but not one after another.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
As for guillotine, you cannot constantly do 1k+ damage every WS. You just cant. Sure, maybe every so often you can, but not one after another.

You can if you don't suck, lol.
 
meeze said:
while you're buffing up after getting 100TP, I'vealready hit 100tp, abs tp, got a few melee hits and ws'd again.

abs-tp is only 2 seconds, and if I happen to use SE or LR to buff again... thats, what, 2 more seconds? You know all the scythes post 70 have a 5 sec delay, right?

I dont understand why all of you are so stubborn and have your own heads stuck up your asses trying to prove me wrong lol, all I did was type up a simple, basic guide and all you do is try to correct what I wrote, or try to make yourselves look even more 'leet' lol.

You know you coulda just read it and said ok, but no, you gotta be some freakin internet 'gangsta's' or whatever.

seriously 'kids' grow up
 
My lows are usually 800, highs 1300. With buffs those numbers go up or course.
 
Rappa said:
You can if you don't suck, lol.

ya, but sucking to you is not having abjurations or salvage gear, huh.

wowigotthatimthebestinthegame Rappa
 
Ruffyreborn said:
abs-tp is only 2 seconds, and if I happen to use SE or LR to buff again... thats, what, 2 more seconds? You know all the scythes post 70 have a 5 sec delay, right?

I dont understand why all of you are so stubborn and have your own heads stuck up your asses trying to prove me wrong lol, all I did was type up a simple, basic guide and all you do is try to correct what I wrote, or try to make yourselves look even more 'leet' lol.

You know you coulda just read it and said ok, but no, you gotta be some freakin internet 'gangsta's' or whatever.

seriously 'kids' grow up

It would be wrong if we didn't put our input on stuff having already been 75 for 2 years.

If you are going to write up a piece about how to play a job, I think you should expect your errors to be corrected by people, but instead of being mature about it, you're throwing a fit and plugging your ears.
 
meeze said:
It would be wrong if we didn't put our input on stuff having already been 75 for 2 years.

If you are going to write up a piece about how to play a job, I think you should expect your errors to be corrected by people, but instead of being mature about it, you're throwing a fit and plugging your ears.

no Im not throwing a fit and plugging my ears.

Didnt you say "if you use spiral hell in exp/merit pt's youre seriously retarded" or "lol kid still thinks ss/thf rocks"

you can give your input without being retarded elitists you know. Several of the more reputable members on qcdn have.
 
Orihalcum (sp?) and tradeciem (sp?) scythes are still sub par to the death scythe +1. Sure they are rare, but when i finally got mine i never took it off ever.

Its pretty easy to do more then 1k guillotine consistantly. I didn't have any abj's and i retired before salavge came out. Its not that hard to do if you know how to macro good gear, and work for that good gear.

I don't know why you have your head stuck so far up your ass trying to prove yourself right against people that have been playing longer than you, and have been a 75 drk for far longer than you.

Grow up "kid".

See, I can do it too.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
ya, but sucking to you is not having abjurations or salvage gear, huh.

Um. I was averaging 1k guillotines before I started doing end-game. It isn't hard. You can do it with Thick gear, a Hauberk, and some accuracy rings. I'm not saying every Guillotine you do will be ABOVE 1k. I'm saying you will AVERAGE 1k. Like Meeze said, anywhere from 700 lows to 1300-1400 highs. That averages to 1k. You don't have to be a superhero to do that. But if you want to dick around, save tp all day and average 1300-1500 on your SH, that's your choice. Us old fogeys obviously have no idea how to play the job.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
no Im not throwing a fit and plugging my ears.

Didnt you say "if you use spiral hell in exp/merit pt's youre seriously retarded" or "lol kid still thinks ss/thf rocks"

you can give your input without being retarded elitists you know. Several of the more reputable members on qcdn have.

I tell it straight, I'm not a carebear who is going to coddle you. Run to your social for nurturing, or hack up a friend who cares about your innermost feelings and will stop you from /wrists emo boy.

Spiral hell in xp sucks. /thf without an MB sucks. Check anywhere you want, but if you write up a "how to" guide, be prepared to have your dreams shattered when you find out some of the stuff you believe to be true, aren't.
 
meeze said:
I tell it straight, I'm not a carebear who is going to coddle you. Run to your social for nurturing, or hack up a friend who cares about your innermost feelings and will stop you from /wrists emo boy.

Spiral hell in xp sucks. /thf without an MB sucks. Check anywhere you want, but if you write up a "how to" guide, be prepared to have your dreams shattered when you find out some of the stuff you believe to be true, aren't.

lol I like your insults, fag.

look I can do it too. I never asked for your damn nurturing. Its easy to give input instead of having to have a dick up your ass.
 
Makelith said:
Orihalcum (sp?) and tradeciem (sp?) scythes are still sub par to the death scythe +1.

ya, I'd love that little bit of lower delay, I'll get my hands on one of them someday.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
lol I like your insults, fag.

look I can do it too. I never asked for your damn nurturing. Its easy to give input instead of having to have a dick up your ass.

See, thing about that is... Meeze never insulted you. He just spoke his mind about how you aren't right. You're the one that is refusing to listen to the people who are right.

You're being just like those summoners that complain about not being able to do that massive predator claws every minute.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
lol I like your insults, fag.

look I can do it too. I never asked for your damn nurturing. Its easy to give input instead of having to have a dick up your ass.

Read the first page, you started arguing with me right away. Yes, THF sub sucks, yet you want to hold on to it like it is some great thing, it isn't you lose all sorts of damage and TP subbing THF.

I didn't start making fun of you until you couldn't face the facts.
 
Makelith said:
See, thing about that is... Meeze never insulted you. He just spoke his mind about how you aren't right. You're the one that is refusing to listen to the people who are right.

You're being just like those summoners that complain about not being able to do that massive predator claws every minute.
no lol, he was the first to begin the little debate, it didnt start on page 1. on page 1, 2 and a little of 3, it was just simple talking, giving feedback.

Read up.

And meeze, you dont really have anything to make fun of me about. Honestly.
 
Ruffyreborn said:
no lol, he was the first to begin the little debate, it didnt start on page 1. on page 1, 2 and a little of 3, it was just simple talking, giving feedback.

Read up.

And meeze, you dont really have anything to make fun of me about. Honestly.

lolhax

And you argued the feedback...against everyone, after a while you get tired of talking to wall and just want to put a hole in it.
 
meeze said:
lolhax

And you argued the feedback...against everyone, after a while you get tired of talking to wall and just want to put a hole in it.
lol I think its funny that people think I hack. I get laughs out of that every day, especially when people /slap me in-game, but whatever, I dont really care.

And you know what, Im sorry for this trash thread, there you go. Sorry for Being "Dense" Meeze, and sorry for my insults.

If I really am wrong about how I play this game, then I will find out on my own, wont I. But either way. It is just a video game.
 
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