Basic Guide to Dark Knight...

[Icewolf]

How about some mention of /drg. ; ;

Subbing drg means lvling it to 37 =( but yeah i've heard it is very good, but what leader now days lets you sub anything other than /nin? Especially if your going to be grabbing a shit ton of hate with jumps and such.

 

[meeze]

Subbing drg means lvling it to 37 =( but yeah i've heard it is very good, but what leader now days lets you sub anything other than /nin? Especially if your going to be grabbing a shit ton of hate with jumps and such.

You wouldn't want to do it without a PLD in your pt. When there is a PLD, most leaders are more open since they obviously don't care about good xp wwwwww.

 

[Rappa]

I still haven't levelled drg to lvl 37 yet, am I a bad DRK?

 

[meeze]

You already leveled PUP past 37, we won't make you play another shitty job again.

 

[Icewolf]

You already leveled PUP past 37, we won't make you play another shitty job again.

HAHAHAHA

 

[Ruffyreborn]

Kid still thinks SS/thf rocks, baby steps, baby steps.

I have been playing for nearly 3 years now, I do know what Im talking about..

and wtf, kid? lol seriously... Who uses that as an insult on boards anymore...

Honestly, it outdamage what guillotine does. Nearly all the time.

 

[Aither]

You already leveled PUP past 37, we won't make you play another shitty job again.

Oh burn lol

Since we have some of the good DRK community localized in this post yes that includes you meeze =P What do you guys think on /sam sub? Im working on it right now because well Im lazy and hate newbies zones but im thru quifim and onto squishy mandies.

ANYWAYS pro's con's? Anyone?

The thought of all the ws spam makes me hot

 

[Icewolf]

Oh burn lol

Since we have some of the good DRK community localized in this post yes that includes you meeze =P What do you guys think on /sam sub? Im working on it right now because well Im lazy and hate newbies zones but im thru quifim and onto squishy mandies.

ANYWAYS pro's con's? Anyone?

The thought of all the ws spam makes me hot

You will die...alot, enjoy!

 

[Aither]

You will die...alot, enjoy!

Yea death is a con for sure but with the whole seigan / 3rd eye thing. and that hasso Ja as well....few dents in the buffer might be worth it to drop more bombs than the bibles got somms

 

[Staralfur]

Subbing drg means lvling it to 37 =( but yeah i've heard it is very good, but what leader now days lets you sub anything other than /nin? Especially if your going to be grabbing a shit ton of hate with jumps and such.

Part of playing /drg well is knowing how to controll your hate. Also, it doesn't require a pld. If you have a rdm and whm in your pt, chances are you wont be an mp killer, especially if you have some /nins in your pt.

 

[Staralfur]

I still haven't levelled drg to lvl 37 yet, am I a bad DRK?

yes!!

 

[meeze]

I have been playing for nearly 3 years now, I do know what Im talking about..

and wtf, kid? lol seriously... Who uses that as an insult on boards anymore...

Honestly, it outdamage what guillotine does. Nearly all the time.

Yes it does outdamage Guill, but /WAR outdamages /THF. 1K SS isn't going to make up for the loss of Double Att, and Serk. It has a place, when doing MB, at no other time should you /THF.

 

[Rappa]

Let's see.... for /sam vs /war

/sam - 60 free tp every 3 minutes, whatever benefit a nerfed hasso/seigan gives you (they are based on level so /sam they are at lower potential than a sam's), third eye (I guess this is a benefit, lol), zanshin (in case your gear sucks), and some extra store tp

/war - berserk, warcry, double attack (it's like zanshin for people with good gear!), attack bonus

Did I miss anything? I would pick war over sam, esp since abs-tp can get a lot more than 60tp every 3 minutes anyways.

 

[Icewolf]

Part of playing /drg well is knowing how to controll your hate.

So does this mean if i go /war i dont have to control my hate =D jk lol, i get your point

 

[meeze]

Oh burn lol

Since we have some of the good DRK community localized in this post yes that includes you meeze =P What do you guys think on /sam sub? Im working on it right now because well Im lazy and hate newbies zones but im thru quifim and onto squishy mandies.

ANYWAYS pro's con's? Anyone?

The thought of all the ws spam makes me hot

I haven't tried it out yet, but Stara didn't like it...but I think he's a DRG at heart.

 

[CmdrFly]

about the acc, isnt acc cap 90%?

No. In the low-mid 50s on war, with dual vikings, I steadily parsed 94%+ in my static meets going as high as 98% (those results were skewed though, iirc it was a very short session). Haven't seen numbers like that since, but I'm sure some pimped merited folks today can easily break 92 on merit mobs.

Part of playing /drg well is knowing how to controll your hate. Also, it doesn't require a pld. If you have a rdm and whm in your pt, chances are you wont be an mp killer, especially if you have some /nins in your pt.

/drg also seems to bring some demented form of bloodlust to the table. Controlling your hate is... difficult, when everything is red.

 

[Staralfur]

Oh burn lol

Since we have some of the good DRK community localized in this post yes that includes you meeze =P What do you guys think on /sam sub? Im working on it right now because well Im lazy and hate newbies zones but im thru quifim and onto squishy mandies.

ANYWAYS pro's con's? Anyone?

The thought of all the ws spam makes me hot

It sucks, the effects of Hasso (i think thats the right one) are severely gimped as a sub, 50% effect if im not mistaken. You will hardly notice a difference at all.

If you want to be spamming ws, /drg is the way to go. Correctly timed jumps combined with Absorb-TP can get you multiple SCs per fight. The benefits of Jump will outweigh that of Meditate. Sure Meditate might give you more TP per every 3mins, but not by much. And with Jump/High Jump you are getting TP (with a chance of a double attack proc) plus damage.

edit: requires brutal earring + haste gear

 

[Icewolf]

It sucks, the effects of Hasso (i think thats the right one) are severely gimped as a sub, 50% effect if im not mistaken. You will hardly notice a difference at all.

If you want to be spamming ws, /drg is the way to go. Correctly timed jumps combined with Absorb-TP can get you multiple SCs per fight. The benefits of Jump will outweigh that of Meditate. Sure Meditate might give you more TP per every 3mins, but not by much. And with Jump/High Jump you are getting TP (with a chance of a double attack proc) plus damage.

edit: requires brutal earring

multiple sc's per fight :shok: I dont quite see how that is controlling hate, considering one ws will generally get you hate.

 

[Staralfur]

multiple sc's per fight :shok: I dont quite see how that is controlling hate, considering one ws will generally get you hate.

Hey Aither is the one that wanted to spam WS =P.

But seriously, the only time I go for double is on weaker mobs (puks etc), if you grab hate on the first ws, It will be dead by the second and you can do it fast enough to only get hit a couple of times. However on Mamool and the like, self-preservation is key.

 

[Icewolf]

true true