Besieged Sucked ass!!

Why on earth would you do that. Not that the whole thing is that huge, but you're wasting time and mp by doing so. You will never hope to get to the northernmost 30 minute ext like us if you piddle around in sandy with stupid goals like "hay guyz letz take teh whole ah at 1ce!"

There is plenty left to do in dynamis zones that none of you all do. We got 700 coins in sandy, because we spend a half hour to an hour longer in there than you all on a good day.
 
Hey! let's not have fun and try new things and do everything the way you do it! That sounds like LOADS of fun!! (please note the sarcasm dumb fuck)

Trying something new is fun, and, it's not really that bad or a big waste of MP. Considering there are a few MP stones and HP stones they heal the group fine. Mobs kept slept with PLD and NIN holding stones while BLM and RDM nuke em down works nicely. Just so you know, a RDM can solo a stone in about 3-4 spells (unresisted), A BLM can do it in about 2(unresisted). Good people can take a big train fine. Not to mention but if you have say.. 3-4 SMNs they can all astral flow and pretty much wipe the entire train.
 
Ya, we are just a startup. Doesn't mean we aren't going after the Dynamis Lord next Tuesday and Saturday. Unlike you I give all the credit to the great members. I'm just there to keep attendance and make sure the right people get their AF. Dynamis is like riding a bike. Once you win one they are easy after that.
~Foofighter
 
my LS killed every mob in sandy not counting the 2 suicide stones at the stables.
 
So Pere, as usual you just ignored 3/4 of my post to focus on one thing. I just proved to you how in the long run figthing them outside brings absolutely nothing to the game. I just proved to you that it was not SE's intention to have us fight the mobs outside when they SPECIFICALLY said the challenge starts when they are inside the town. I just proved to you that ultimately, figthing them outside would mean the possibility of figthing them inside the town would be totally ignored. Yet, you insist on saying that's what SE intended to do and that's what should happen.

Peregrine said:
And, why, Einstein, would they let you decimate them before besieged even started? Are you that stupid? You can't honestly be asking me why square allows you to fight in the town. They allow you to fight in town when you fail to kill them in the field. Fact. Why do they allow you to kill them in the field if you idiots claim that they're not supposed to be killed in the field?

Dumbass, don't come in here asking me why SE allows battles in the town. You fight in town when you fail to repel them, just like the regional messages tell you to. Honestly. What is wrong with you people? Do you have nothing to do but type how stupid you are?

Why the name calling? Did I call you names? Is this the only arguments you have, call me a dumbass? Is this your little daily pressure valve, to insult people on a forum? Was that prescribed by some doctor you want to become?

You call me names for asking you why SE allows battle in town (which by the way, was a rethorical (sp?) question, there was no need to answer it) yet you are asking me and others the same question about figthing outside. The answer is simple, no one knows exactly. So stop pretending like you're a god amongst us with all the answer when you can't answer shit, you just said so yourself.

You have no pride. You have no courage. You honestly couldn't care less what actually happens in the game so long as you get your banal low-yield content on. My guess is that you all will throw a victory to a weak horde in order to get your content on. You have years to see all the content, but you just have to see it all in the first week, don't you? Yeah, you do. Because you're content whores.

So... why do you play the game? Yes, I play every game for it's content, the storyline, etc. FFXI just has that extra something you failed to grasp in all your playing time: social interralations with other people. It's a game, I want to be entertained. Are you telling me you're playing just to get that uber relic gear to put on your fake character so you can be ubber in getting the next ubber piece of gear in a non-real world? That's your reason to play? Hmmm.... no comment I guess.

What if your sister lived there? Would you let them even attempt a raid on the town just so you could see what happens? No. That is pathetic. There will come a time when they'll be so strong that you can't repel them outside, and that will make the town fight all the sweeter when you've done everything in your power to fight against it. And if there won't naturally come that time, SE will finally and for once, be impressed with your efforts instead of underwhelmed. You idiots have begged for nerfs on content difficulty for the last three years. You had one opportunity to check underrated by the dev team. And you failed. You should have had SE saying, damn. The mobs didn't even ****ing get to town on any servers...but no. If mobs ever get harder, which they probably won't because you retards let them all the way into town untouched, you won't even be ready for it. You'll lose on accident to a weak force.

LOL Give me a freakin break. My sister? Living in a town about to be attacked by trolls? What the hell dude, this is a game. Stop trying to but reality in a game called FINAL FANTASY where midget shoots thunder botls from the sky to kill dragons 100 times their size.

lol.... what if your sister lived there..... priceless.

What if, in real life, you were figthing with your friends some huge dragon that killed most of them and is about to own the rest of your gang, would you go WAIT! Everyone stop attacking and let the thief kill it so we get better drops! Then why do it in game? Oh yeah, cuase it's NOT REAL!

lol... what if your sister lived there....

I want to see what you want to see. You fools just don't know how to see what you want to see. Do everything you can to repel those forces, and Square will ensure that you lose eventually. Now what would you rather have? A battle that rages in the field, then moves to town...or you idiots watching as they just walk right up and knock?

You want both, because THAT is content. Fight them in the field, then when you fail, fight in the town. That is by default more content than you beggars whore for. If you let mobs walk free in the field, you are ignoring content, and you are a fool for doing so.

Again, if everyone is out there battling in the field, who will be facing the ennemies in town? Or are you suggeting we form some kind of server army with dedicated positions, generals and medals? lol

Announcing a besieged that should take place outside is the equivalent of saying Hey guys! Guess what? Now you will be able to fight mobs outside! This is something you've been doing for 4 years but we just thought you'd like another opportunity to do it! So enjoy!

Anyway, go ahead and cal me names again. Try to be creative, dumbass, idiot, stupid, that gets repetitive pretty fast. Here, I got one for you: Calisse d'ostie de cave.

Didn't get it? That's too bad.
 
Foofighter said:
Ya, we are just a startup. Doesn't mean we aren't going after the Dynamis Lord next Tuesday and Saturday. Unlike you I give all the credit to the great members. I'm just there to keep attendance and make sure the right people get their AF. Dynamis is like riding a bike. Once you win one they are easy after that.
~Foofighter
That's what perfect said. Then they died.
 
Veresko said:
So Pere, as usual you just ignored 3/4 of my post to focus on one thing. I just proved to you how in the long run figthing them outside brings absolutely nothing to the game. I just proved to you that it was not SE's intention to have us fight the mobs outside when they SPECIFICALLY said the challenge starts when they are inside the town. I just proved to you that ultimately, figthing them outside would mean the possibility of figthing them inside the town would be totally ignored. Yet, you insist on saying that's what SE intended to do and that's what should happen.



Why the name calling? Did I call you names? Is this the only arguments you have, call me a dumbass? Is this your little daily pressure valve, to insult people on a forum? Was that prescribed by some doctor you want to become?

You call me names for asking you why SE allows battle in town (which by the way, was a rethorical (sp?) question, there was no need to answer it) yet you are asking me and others the same question about figthing outside. The answer is simple, no one knows exactly. So stop pretending like you're a god amongst us with all the answer when you can't answer shit, you just said so yourself.



So... why do you play the game? Yes, I play every game for it's content, the storyline, etc. FFXI just has that extra something you failed to grasp in all your playing time: social interralations with other people. It's a game, I want to be entertained. Are you telling me you're playing just to get that uber relic gear to put on your fake character so you can be ubber in getting the next ubber piece of gear in a non-real world? That's your reason to play? Hmmm.... no comment I guess.



LOL Give me a freakin break. My sister? Living in a town about to be attacked by trolls? What the hell dude, this is a game. Stop trying to but reality in a game called FINAL FANTASY where midget shoots thunder botls from the sky to kill dragons 100 times their size.

lol.... what if your sister lived there..... priceless.

What if, in real life, you were figthing with your friends some huge dragon that killed most of them and is about to own the rest of your gang, would you go WAIT! Everyone stop attacking and let the thief kill it so we get better drops! Then why do it in game? Oh yeah, cuase it's NOT REAL!

lol... what if your sister lived there....



Again, if everyone is out there battling in the field, who will be facing the ennemies in town? Or are you suggeting we form some kind of server army with dedicated positions, generals and medals? lol

Announcing a besieged that should take place outside is the equivalent of saying Hey guys! Guess what? Now you will be able to fight mobs outside! This is something you've been doing for 4 years but we just thought you'd like another opportunity to do it! So enjoy!

Anyway, go ahead and cal me names again. Try to be creative, dumbass, idiot, stupid, that gets repetitive pretty fast. Here, I got one for you: Calisse d'ostie de cave.

Didn't get it? That's too bad.

I didn't know Kluver-bucy extended to someone's own typed words. Hm. How 'bout them obscure flames? I see no reason to provide content to no-content hack morons. Look at how well the MODERATORS type around here. That one is a baked shitbrick. Why should I TRY if this is so much FUN?
 
Peregrine said:
You have no pride. You have no courage. You honestly couldn't care less what actually happens in the game so long as you get your banal low-yield content on. My guess is that you all will throw a victory to a weak horde in order to get your content on. You have years to see all the content, but you just have to see it all in the first week, don't you? Yeah, you do. Because you're content whores.

What if your sister lived there? Would you let them even attempt a raid on the town just so you could see what happens? No. That is pathetic. There will come a time when they'll be so strong that you can't repel them outside, and that will make the town fight all the sweeter when you've done everything in your power to fight against it. And if there won't naturally come that time, SE will finally and for once, be impressed with your efforts instead of underwhelmed. You idiots have begged for nerfs on content difficulty for the last three years. You had one opportunity to check underrated by the dev team. And you failed. You should have had SE saying, damn. The mobs didn't even ****ing get to town on any servers...but no. If mobs ever get harder, which they probably won't because you retards let them all the way into town untouched, you won't even be ready for it. You'll lose on accident to a weak force.


AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHhhahahahhahahahahah OMG hahah... oh jesus.
 
Just throwing an idea in the air, since I know for a fact it hasn't been done yet.

What may happen if you force the beastmen to retreat before they reached the city? Maaaaybe there are bonuses and stuff.

Nobody will be willing to attempt it though, at least not right away. :l Maybe, in the future, we can experiment and discover. The NPCs do sorta announce to intecept their forces, remember.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Probably won't even get the chance to verify it, either.
 
Someone please Sig that comment what Rhaddy had bold out. Pere, why dont you get this is a god damn video Online game. This isnt real fucking life. In real fucking life, if we even had magical powers and the ability to ride giant fucking chickens, Im god damn sure we would fuck any mob that come near our home towns.

In this video game Many of us wanted to experiance the Ff11 intro. Im very sure in many people's minds they had said "Man If i was there I could fuck at least half those mobs apart." Case and point a literal army of people waiting for them to come in and for us to beat the cybernetic shit outta them.

Please Go outside and remember how it feels to be in the "real world". When you can again figure out the differeance feel welcome to come back.
 
Giltyguitarist said:
Just throwing an idea in the air, since I know for a fact it hasn't been done yet.

What may happen if you force the beastmen to retreat before they reached the city? Maaaaybe there are bonuses and stuff.

Nobody will be willing to attempt it though, at least not right away. :l Maybe, in the future, we can experiment and discover. The NPCs do sorta announce to intecept their forces, remember.

If I'm wrong, oh well. Probably won't even get the chance to verify it, either.
I think i remember one server saying that they did repel them before the gates, but it just made less spawn. I dont think you can completely rout them before the gates, but it just lessens the amout/level of the ones that do arrive.
 
Marajade said:
I think i remember one server saying that they did repel them before the gates, but it just made less spawn. I dont think you can completely rout them before the gates, but it just lessens the amout/level of the ones that do arrive.

Any way to comfirm this!? I mean, can you finally shut Pere up here and now if you can comfirm it!?!?!
 
For once I am in total agreement with Peregrine on this. Honestly think in terms of overall tactics. An army is sailing over a sea on battleships. Do you sit there and wait for them to dock and unload on your country or do you go out there and blow them the fuck up before they get near. Eventually this is going to get to the point where we can not kill them all without intercepting some probally. may as well learn how to intercept them now right?
 
SomeMithra said:
For once I am in total agreement with Peregrine on this. Honestly think in terms of overall tactics. An army is sailing over a sea on battleships. Do you sit there and wait for them to dock and unload on your country or do you go out there and blow them the fuck up before they get near. Eventually this is going to get to the point where we can not kill them all without intercepting some probally. may as well learn how to intercept them now right?

People just cant read...
What we want -- > Besieged/Events/Storyline
If people intercept and kill all the mobs outside --> NO Besieged/Events/Storyline

Like what Teppo said, this is a GAME.

People who doesnt want Besieged to happen can just keep quiet and got Gustaberg/Sarutabaruta/Ronfaure and kill the mobs there everyday. (Since you guys dont like storyline.)
 
Playonline update

I'm too lazy to see if this has already been posted.. I followed this post when it started but haven't kept up with it. Here's information given by SE about the update on the 27th. Thought some of you might find it interesting. Notice the bolded text at the bottom.

From:FINAL FANTASY XI
Apr. 27, 2006 11:50 [PDT]

FINAL FANTASY XI Update (Apr. 27)

At the following time, we have performed FINAL FANTASY XI version update.

*The client software has also been updated at this time. The version update process will automatically begin upon login after the time stated below. Please follow the instructions that appear on your screen.

[Affected Period]
Apr. 27, 2006 12:00 (PDT)

[Affected Services]
FINAL FANTASY XI

[Important Update Details]
The following issues have been fixed:
- An issue wherein the wide scan would not function properly with Blue Mage , Corsair or Puppetmaster set as support job.

- An issue with incorrect automaton status display.

- Some Shadow (fomor) type monsters which have lost their target would not disappear when they are out of their radius of activity.

- During Besieged, level and speed of beastman army marching towards Al Zahbi have been modified.



http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news7509.shtml
 
Well thats great and all but it still leads to one major issue for the future:

The speed and levels of the beastmen have been modified to contend against 600+ Level 75 players. Well thats all fine now, but what happens after the expansion craze dies down and there are all these strong mobs against less and less players?
 
Then we have to go rescue the NPCs they take. That's part of the fun, too.
 
Pere, just so you know, perfect was an awesome dynamis shell. Everyone knew their jobs and for the most part, af drops were not an issue. I'm not sure why you keep refering to it negatively. yes, it did disband, but not for the reasons you keep saying it did. It disbanded because of inter-ls rivalry that should have stayed out of dynamis.

Now, I dont know anything about your shell, but do you guys farm the northlands at all? The af up there is a bitch to drop and I was curious to know how you are going to manage peoples frustrations at the lack of af from there. Correct me if i am wrong, but if you are not in this game for the content, are you going to even try to kill dynamis lord? Is this ok with the rest of your shell? Or if you are going to kill him, what are you waiting on? This isnt meant as a flame, just clarification of what your shell is about, since you seem to despise perfect for some reason that i really cant fathom.
 
To get this thread back on track and away from Dynamis Drama, and mud slinging pissing contests....

Besieged:
I hope they adjust it in the future if and when there aren't 400 lvl 70+ waiting outside to kill the mobs and inside to finish them off.. Personally I'd like to see the mobs geared towards lvl 60 jobs .. not 70 or not 50...

just my opinion.. I have high hopes for Besieged and look forward to taking part in it.. I missed the last one.... had to sleep, but aparrently didn't miss much...
 
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