Blm gear help!

isn't morrigan's robe actually inferior to weskit?

Demon's Cloak or bust. Remember kids, in Pchan's eyes, gear swaps don't exist. So we need to use a piece that both gives refresh and nuking attributes fulltime.
 
I didnt want to post in this thread more but i see my name mentionned. I don't know you so dont talk about me like this. I dont have hecatomb cap true, but skadi head is a good alternative. Also idk why you are saying that a thf with ridill will do good in salvage. Cause yea main hand Thief knife and sub ridill makes you so p(g)imp. Thats assuming you get SJ. Ive seen so many Dragon eary addicts in JP salvage pickups come thf knife/ridill... makes me sad.

Edit: Zhaolm 5+6+boss is so 2007. Any Jp pickup can do it.

You missed a 4 in there buddy. And as for mainhanding thf-knife, you do know you only have to hit the mob with it once right? The effect stays on anyways. As for normal mobs, most (not all) has a fairly fixed cell droprate.
 
You asked why we use MNK's, and I explained that we use MNK because everyone have MNK lvled. I didn't say you need MNK's to hit all NM's + boss. I said it was the easiest to get done with MNK's. Now, please do tell me why you should take an easy event and try to make it harder? There's no point in trying to make an event harder then it has to be, unless the harder way is more effective. I highly doubt you ignore the start chest in Salvage, just so you can have a more challenging event. That we have 10 members have NOTHING to do with it, and is rather contradicting by you. Here, let me show you why.


No, you said that most of your guys had mnks after your first explanation fell flat. Dont act as you didnt try to belittle me with your "blabla we hit nm's AND boss, need mnks, more effective" and got your shit facestomped when it turned out we do the same stuff you do with 10, only we do it with 6 and not dependent on specific DD jobs to do it.
 
No, you said that most of your guys had mnks after your first explanation fell flat. Dont act as you didnt try to belittle me with your "blabla we hit nm's AND boss, need mnks, more effective" and got your shit facestomped when it turned out we do the same stuff you do with 10, only we do it with 6 and not dependent on specific DD jobs to do it.
You should take a self-confidence course. You seem to take everything offensive.

And seriously, Salvage IS NOT hard with 6 people. In no way did I get "face-stomped". Go right ahead and believe so, but if you truly think you're SOOOO skilled just because you can do Salvage with 6 people, you're highly delusional. As been said before, Salvage is not a hard event. Not with 6 people, not with 10. You're not in any way better then us because you can do Salvage with 6. Salvage is fucking easy with 6, end of story.
 
To Nyett >> If you have such low self-esteem that you take everything offensive, I suggest you stay out.

To Caerloc >> You should take a self-confidence course. You seem to take everything offensive.

Ya Caerloc, be more self assured like the masters of "Little endgame". Us two can goto Tiamat and hold each other while crying.

Your response variability amazes me LUzor. OMG don't reply to this or it means your self esteem is low and your taking everything offensive...... not everything is about you.
 
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You should take a self-confidence course. You seem to take everything offensive.

And seriously, Salvage IS NOT hard with 6 people. In no way did I get "face-stomped". Go right ahead and believe so, but if you truly think you're SOOOO skilled just because you can do Salvage with 6 people, you're highly delusional. As been said before, Salvage is not a hard event. Not with 6 people, not with 10. You're not in any way better then us because you can do Salvage with 6. Salvage is fucking easy with 6, end of story.

I'm well aware off how easy it is. Infact, both me and Jamal has been saying its like one of the simplest forms of endgame. But what's making me happy in my pants now is how you must be breaking your little buttbuddy Pchan's heart now since he keep telling us how much skill it takes to do salvage. You and Pchan should probably get your storys straight. They seem to contradict eachother quite often. They also seem to change alot as they go.


Ps; Dont confuse offended with annoyed with retards.
 
I'm well aware off how easy it is. Infact, both me and Jamal has been saying its like one of the simplest forms of endgame. But what's making me happy in my pants now is how you must be breaking your little buttbuddy Pchan's heart now since he keep telling us how much skill it takes to do salvage. You and Pchan should probably get your storys straight. They seem to contradict eachother quite often. They also seem to change alot as they go.


Ps; Dont confuse offended with annoyed with retards.
I'm not Pchan. I don't agree with everything Pchan says, like using DC+1 over, say, Igqira and AF+1 or AF2 head. I have my own opinions.Contradictions can't happen unless I actually try to defend him, which I haven't done in this thread when it comes to his opinion about Black Mage. I'm sure your opinions aren't all the same as your friends. If they are I'd suggest you actually get a life of your own. Must be extremely boring to be exactly the same as all of your friends. I don't agree with everything Pchan, Mdk, Dayner, or any of my friends say, but I still respect their opinions. Hell, I respect yours and Skaw's opinions too, even though I think a lot of what both of you have to say is moronic. What I don't respect, is you as a person. Although I guess there's not many people I actually respect that I don't know. Vilurum are one of the few.

And I give up. You're obviously delusional. Arguing with you is worse then talking to a brick wall. You can at least play ball with a brick wall. You'd just drop to the ground. If you want to take the "We r teh best in Salvage!" attitude, go right ahead. You can believe that if you want. It serves me no good to make you realize you're not the best.
 
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You missed a 4 in there buddy. And as for mainhanding thf-knife, you do know you only have to hit the mob with it once right? The effect stays on anyways. As for normal mobs, most (not all) has a fairly fixed cell droprate.

Wut people still kill 4rth madame. You are 3 month late.
 
Ya Caerloc, be more self assured like the masters of "Little endgame". Us two can goto Tiamat and hold each other while crying.

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Mwahaha. Then go do your "big" HnM, and stop being to jealous about others gear. How about you go kill cerberus ? A lot of pup on the server need their hades Sainti. Thanks for working for them rofl.
 
You missed a 4 in there buddy. And as for mainhanding thf-knife, you do know you only have to hit the mob with it once right? The effect stays on anyways. As for normal mobs, most (not all) has a fairly fixed cell droprate.

Until its proven by parse, I think there is a doubt ( im working on proving it too). And no, SE never said you can hit with thf knife then switch to another weapon :P that's only extrapolation and interpretation from what they said.
 
Until its proven by parse, I think there is a doubt ( im working on proving it too). And no, SE never said you can hit with thf knife then switch to another weapon :P that's only extrapolation and interpretation from what they said.
Loosely quoted, believe it was "TH comes into effect as soon as the thief gets enmity from the target" taken from dev panel questions @ fan fest.

What are your methods for testing this, anyway? Going to do another 10,000 goblin "test?"
 
Loosely quoted, believe it was "TH comes into effect as soon as the thief gets enmity from the target" taken from dev panel questions @ fan fest.

What are your methods for testing this, anyway? Going to do another 10,000 goblin "test?"

I believe it has something to do with ebony panels.
 
Mwahaha. Then go do your "big" HnM, and stop being to jealous about others gear. How about you go kill cerberus ? A lot of pup on the server need their hades Sainti. Thanks for working for them rofl.

Ya we probably dont kill him for the best melee cape in the game. Profiting of stupid pups who think they can DD isnt just an added perk at all.
 
Wut people still kill 4rth madame. You are 3 month late.

Yea we dont have members in the shell working on their fourth set of full salvage gear at all..
 
And I give up. You're obviously delusional. Arguing with you is worse then talking to a brick wall. You can at least play ball with a brick wall. You'd just drop to the ground. If you want to take the "We r teh best in Salvage!" attitude, go right ahead. You can believe that if you want. It serves me no good to make you realize you're not the best.

<Pot> Kettle, your so black.
 
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Then go do your "big" HnM, and stop being to jealous about others gear.

Since you must realize that the majority of dedicated endgame blm's these days have the gear needed from limbus and dynamis, your notion of me being "Jealous" must be directed towards your Morrigan equipment. Logically in order for me to want that gear, it would have to be better than the gear I already have for the things I do on a regular basis, endgame. Lets compare shall we and since you think mp and -enmity are crap for blm, I won't even include them in this:

Morrigan's Head: Int+4, MAcc+5 vs
AF1+1: Int+5
AF2: skill+10
So your head may have a bit of accuracy over AF+1 but has less Int. Besides this, as you admit yourself, nothing compares to the AF2. Would I or any other blm be jealous of your head? NO.

Morrigan's Hands: MAB+5, MAcc+5 vs
Zenith: MAB+5
AF1: skill+15
AF1+1: skill+15 Int+3
So your hands have MAcc over zenith. But for anything with resists, pale in comparison with even just AF1, not to mention AF1+1. MAB+5 means nothing if you are getting resisted up the ass. Would I or any other blm be jealous of your hands? NO.

Morrigan's Feet: Int+3
Yigit Feet: Int+3 MAB+2
Yigit are better, hell even rostrum pumps are better for the fastcast. Would I or any other blm be jealous of your feet? Maybe for stoneskin lol but ummm seriously, NO.

Morrigan's Body: MAB+5 Int+8
Genie Weskit: MAB+7 skill+6 Conserve mp i will ignore.
The whole trick between these two is Int+8 vs MAB+2 and skill+6. As a taru with a high base int, I would not sacrifice skill+6 for int on high resist mobs. Frankly if a few int were found to be so dam important bards would give us etude+balladII, they don't. With skill aside, factoring in the damage difference between MAB+2 and int+8, the difference isn't mind blowing...but thats just max damage, which means nothing if your getting resisted like crazy. So would I be jealous of your body? NO. Its cool to see cause its rare for now, but still the answer is NO.

Morrigan's Legs: Int+10
Mahatma Slops: Int+8
I saved this for last cause, unless your using AF2 legs for day bonus, Morrigan legs are better for the majority of the nuking. This I will give you, int+2 better.

So, looking at what I need/want/like for gear, you claim that I and many other blm's should be jealous of 2 int? This is when I ask you for the 3rd time, do you have Novio and Herald's Gaiter's? If some calculator junkie out there wants to give me solid numbers on Int+2 vs MAB+7 please do but I can say with confidence that I think MAB+7 is better >.>

So, if you have these pieces of equipment than yes Pchan I will admit you have +2int of gear that I would like, not something to be jealous of exactly, but I will admit the fact. If you do not have these, do you know what that means Pchan? Your gear is not better compared to a blm with a Novio, not to mention one with Novio and Gaiters. ..

This is the part where you rethink exactly who should be jealous of who. And for any up and coming blm's who failed to see Pchan's double red dots, don't listen to him when it comes to blm equip. Mp and -enmity are important and weren't even considered in this post. Morrigan's gear is NOT ground breaking for a blm. If your goals ingame are Limbus and nuking puddings than maybe its better than I am implying here.

Edit: forgot to mention if you wear the whole morrigan set you get MAB+5. Still not a Novio but regardless you would lose skill+25 from af2 hat and af1 hands, MAB+2 from yigit feet and I'm sure more but you get the point. Only a complete moron would do this.

I'd also like to add for Uzor that my shrink said if someone quotes me then says something, it is about me and I should take offence.
 
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Ya we probably dont kill him for the best melee cape in the game.
NQ cerb is not the best melee cape in the game, lol. Forager's mantle is half the price and superior (+3attack) to NQ cerb.

Morrigan's Body: MAB+5 Int+8
Genie Weskit: MAB+7 skill+6 Conserve mp i will ignore.
The whole trick between these two is Int+8 vs MAB+2 and skill+6. As a taru with a high base int, I would not sacrifice skill+6 for int on high resist mobs. Frankly if a few int were found to be so dam important bards would give us etude+balladII, they don't. With skill aside, factoring in the damage difference between MAB+2 and int+8, the difference isn't mind blowing...but thats just max damage, which means nothing if your getting resisted like crazy. So would I be jealous of your body? NO. Its cool to see cause its rare for now, but still the answer is NO.
Just would like to point out that in low resist situations (i.e. exp) nothing beats the entire set. Even in medium resist situations, I think it'd be pretty ignorant to say you'd use weskit over Morrigan's. It's definitely the superior damage piece and 6 skill isn't going to make a huge difference either way >_>. In super-high resist situations that justify an INT set, Morrigan's robe is nice because it doubles (triples) as a high INT piece, refresh, and MAB as a plus, too. This combined with the MND on it for stoneskin basically makes it a fulltime piece. It's silly that you're trying to devalue it when, in reality, it (and other salvage pieces) stomp the fuck out of most things you can get from HNMs.

So, looking at what I need/want/like for gear, you claim that I and many other blm's should be jealous of 2 int? This is when I ask you for the 3rd time, do you have Novio and Herald's Gaiter's? If some calculator junkie out there wants to give me solid numbers on Int+2 vs MAB+7 please do but I can say with confidence that I think MAB+7 is better >.>

So, if you have these pieces of equipment than yes Pchan I will admit you have +2int of gear that I would like, not something to be jealous of exactly, but I will admit the fact. If you do not have these, do you know what that means Pchan? Your gear is not better compared to a blm with a Novio, not to mention one with Novio and Gaiters. ..
Don't see what you're trying to prove here, but no, s/he doesn't. I'd also like to add that gaiters aren't nearly as good as you're making them out to be here, unless they go to someone who can use them well. When soloing sea, limbus, etc. 12% movement is amazing, but I doubt everyone who gets gaiters (or even a tenth of the people who do) use them for this purpose. In my experience, the people who get gaiters are always johnny WHM /BLM who thinks it'd be cool to run to the aery 12% faster.

Morrigan's gear is NOT ground breaking for a blm.
Neither is adaberk. Neither is dalmatica. Neither is mbody. Neither is wbody. Neither is ridill. What's your point?
 
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