BOL - Check your members some more

[yanzi]

So I've been told that some BoL members camping Ulli mpk'd a party that was xp'ing on statues. Some of those guilty are Decidence, Scwall, Rolekii, and others I don't recognize.
Here's the story from Vindicative:
They were xp'ing on statues. There was an understanding for BoL not to kill statues since the xp pt needed them. BoL continued to kill statues so the xp pt pulled Ulli. Once BoL saw they didn't claim Ulli, they decide to mpk the pt. Xp pt dies, they finish off BoL.
This just affirms all the other threads about BoL using mpk tactics. Decidence, for someone of your stature, shame on you.

 

[Laur]

Well, guess that pretty much speaks for itself. :shock:

 

[decidence]

First of all where was the understanding that we had? I wasn't told not to kill Statues, I didn't even know (and I expect most people in our small alliance) that the Xp PT was even there until we saw them emerge from the room, which at that point I said that we would not pull any golems (obviously because why would we waste our time on them after being there for over 4hours it was getting tedious and an XP PT can kill them for us).

The KICKER here is, after we stopped pulling golems and stopped spamming voke because we all saw there was a PT here now and they had apparently said they werent going to pull Ullikummi... the NM decides to finally spawn... and Vindictive vokes it about 5 seconds after it popped. AFTER we had all stopped spamming to let this XP PT (who has only been in there camp for like 15mins max) kill golems.

Right after they voked the mob I asked them to give it back kindly, I asked Rollie why it was pulled and he said it wasn't his intention. I ALSO talked to Zalbag after the whole incident and he told me himself he was AGAINST pulling the NM.

So was this a 1 person vendetta? 1 Person was pissed off that they wasted 15mins of their XP time because we didn't all understand the terms of the agreement from the start due to lack of communication, so he decided to waste our 8hrs of being in sky (4+ of which camping Ullikummi himself after scouting him for most of the day), sounds pretty childish to me, if thats indeed what your trying to accuse us of being.

This is the first time Ive seen a MPK like this, or been in a party thats been MPK'd, or MPK'd someone else... it was not my order to MPK them nor did I train any mobs in the process, but I do defend their actions.

We waited until Ulli was almost dead to try and reason with their party into giving it back, we tried to steal it to avoid deaths, nothing was working, they were just ignoring us.

Not only this but after the MPK someone in their party has the nerve to tell us they were going to give us the stone, and they only wanted the weapon or some shit like that when we all know damn well they would of done no such thing... if they were planning to do that they would of said it after they pulled it not after they lost the battle to try and save face.

Furthermore maybe I have a sick sense of fun but that whole episode between our alliance and their party was the most fun I had in a long time, it actually felt like more of a form of "ghetto" PvP then PK'ing as almost everyone on both sides died at least once during the battle.

And I say battle because thats what it was... it wasn't a vicious MPK that wiped out everyone in one shot, it involved strategy from both sides and good thinking, Vindictive did a very good job which I applaud, and Calbrone/Acavar somehow killed Ullikummi when everyone else in our alliance died which I found showed some great teamwork from them.

There is absolutely no way you can pin this whole thing on BoLSF, both sides were to blame for the incident... and bringing this here is just another cowardly move at trying to work out your problems with people and LS's my using hate instead of communication.

Learn to deal with people in game, communicate and be courteous to eachother and stop bringing this stupid shit onto the flameboard where it doesn't belong.

Have Fun!

 

[cohibuu]

damn even xp pt outclaims bol, that sad

 

[Mirewen]

You can't really argue when it's all there in type...

 

[cohibuu]

damn deci really fuck bol there LOL gj guys. i wouldnt expect less

 

[Laur]

LOL you tried to defend your actions there gg. :roll:

 

[Firestreak]

I'll just say 1 thing and leave it at this... MPKing isn't cool, but at the same time if you agreed to not go after Ulli you kind of deserved it. Look at it this way... if people can't be trusted to just exp without claiming ulli, then that entire camp, where sky is becoming extremely crowded lately, is officially null and void for exp. If you can't trust people to not claim ulli, then all LS alliances are just gonna kill everything that spawns and drive all the exp parties out of the area. Given the situation, if I was there, camping, for this NM, and had done a group the favor of leaving the exp mobs(which some LS won't do and will just drive everyone out) then they claim it, I might do the same thing, because it's not fair.

 

[xKronox]

damn even xp pt outclaims bol, that sad

A classic one for you all, here.

 

[ForteTeppo]

From what I hear is they camped that thing for 6 hours, the "exp pt" came in and instead of BoL forcing them to change camps, they agree on them having the "exp mobs" and all bol wants is Ulli.
What ends up happening is the "exp pt" takes Ulli, mistake or not and totally broke the agreement they had. So any sense of commen decenty was clearly shot out the window. Course I wasnt there so I cant say for certain. - .-

 

[Mirewen]

I'll just say 1 thing and leave it at this... MPKing isn't cool, but at the same time if you agreed to not go after Ulli you kind of deserved it. Look at it this way... if people can't be trusted to just exp without claiming ulli, then that entire camp, where sky is becoming extremely crowded lately, is officially null and void for exp. If you can't trust people to not claim ulli, then all LS alliances are just gonna kill everything that spawns and drive all the exp parties out of the area. Given the situation, if I was there, camping, for this NM, and had done a group the favor of leaving the exp mobs(which some LS won't do and will just drive everyone out) then they claim it, I might do the same thing, because it's not fair.

From what I understood, the only reason the EXP pt took Ulli was because they had an understanding that the LS would only take Ulli, and they infringed on that by taking EXP mobs. So because the agreement was null (on the fact that the EXP mobs were taken by the LS), the EXP pt took Ulli. That's an eye for an eye correct? Even if the EXP pt did "steal" Ulli, how does that justify an MPK?

 

[decidence]

You obviously dont understand my humour either... all those /say's are a joke, I was laughing my ass off at the deaths on both sides... I figured by the time I typed "Calling GM for Stalling" you would of clued in to the humour of it all.

If you take this stuff this seriously, you should really evaluate if your having fun in this game anymore... personally for me Im just here to have fun, I would of never stolen someone's NM in Sky... especially in sky for christs sakes... NOT EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT, just because their group were killing our XP mobs. I would of made an effort in /say, /tell several times before writing the group off as ignorant like you were so quick to decide. This is why I feel there were some alterior motives for this, because it just DOESN'T SEEM LOGICAL!



Also just to take time to dissect those screenshots...

You guys said you were going to give us the Stone after you killed it (you guys told us this after the MPK) yet there is no mention of that in the screenshots (which I thought would be pretty important to prove your "innocence" if I was you).


Zalbag said he expected that the MPK would happen, so why was it attempted at all? It seems like it was just something to piss us off for no justified reason. Unless your reason is as silly as us killing your XP Mobs for the 10-15mins you were there. We were in a damn 4hr routine of killing Golems, and no one told us to all stop what we were doing. Did you message a leader when you made this deal? Did you expect we would all just clue in to your being there and stop killing... have you ever camped Ullikummi for that long before (at that late of an hour when everyone is about passed out from exhaustion...) your brain turns to mush and you just monotonously pull mobs without giving it much thought.


Vidictive says "/say payback was it" you obviously thought I was talking about giving you payback for taking Ulli... your wrong, even though all those /say's were a joke to more less just talk shit and get on ur nerves for taking our NM it actually should of been phrased like this...

Decidence: we leave XP mobs to you, and this is your repayment


Decidence: /say no proof we MPK on purpose

"No proof we MPK on purpose" think about that for a moment... is it possible to MPK by accident like that? Not only was I told you guys were using Fraps but my jokes obviously need to improve...

 

[Mirewen]

Certain things aren't funny to most people in the community. Yes, It's true that people need to lighten up a lot of the time. But given recent happenings with MPK'ing, some things are better left unsaid.

 

[decidence]

damn even xp pt outclaims bol, that sad

A classic one for you all, here.

If you guys wont take the time to read the threads, why bother trying to post reply's? Should I treat your reply's with the same respect?

From what I understood, the only reason the EXP pt took Ulli was because they had an understanding that the LS would only take Ulli, and they infringed on that by taking EXP mobs. So because the agreement was null (on the fact that the EXP mobs were taken by the LS), the EXP pt took Ulli. That's an eye for an eye correct? Even if the EXP pt did "steal" Ulli, how does that justify an MPK?

We stopped voking because we were at an understanding that originally was only known by like 1 person in our alliance obviously, since it wasn't told to us formally.

Not only did I say they could have the golems in /say but Rollifingaz even thanked me for the gesture... how much more blatant can it get that we didn't all know about the agreement?

There was no effort from Vindictive or their party to make this agreement known other then to /tell one of our random members that didn't bother to forward the information.[/quote]

 

[cohibuu]

damn even xp pt outclaims bol, that sad

A classic one for you all, here.

If you guys wont take the time to read the threads, why bother trying to post reply's? Should I treat your reply's with the same respect?

sorry, you arent going to mpk me are you?

 

[decidence]

I'll just say 1 thing and leave it at this... MPKing isn't cool, but at the same time if you agreed to not go after Ulli you kind of deserved it. Look at it this way... if people can't be trusted to just exp without claiming ulli, then that entire camp, where sky is becoming extremely crowded lately, is officially null and void for exp. If you can't trust people to not claim ulli, then all LS alliances are just gonna kill everything that spawns and drive all the exp parties out of the area. Given the situation, if I was there, camping, for this NM, and had done a group the favor of leaving the exp mobs(which some LS won't do and will just drive everyone out) then they claim it, I might do the same thing, because it's not fair.

I think your the only one to actually make a constructive point here...

Like I said, both LS's were in the wrong that night, I dont think either LS was 100% justified, but if I were the XP PT I wouldn't of done it, specifically because of what Firestreak said. There needs to be a trust level between PT's and GodLS's when your up at Ulli camp, cuz if there isnt then GodLS's will just run PT's out of there, and with the amount of LS's doing Sky nowadays it will completely ruin one of the best XP Spots at Lv75 there is.

The GodLS farming has to offer no special treatment to XP PT's, especially when they were there first and have been there for that many hours. If the XP PT had not decieved us and told us they were not going to claim Ullikummi, then the mob would of been ours (I even had time to /slap /point at it before Vin provoked it) and all would of been well, we would of left right after and the XP PT would of XP'd for the rest of the night by themselves.

However from an objective point of view... Agreement or no Agreement, the LS that was there "farming" there pop item was there first, so how does it look when some XP PT comes out of nowhere, doesn't like their mobs getting killed and instead of putting some effort into working it out they decide to retaliate in the worst way... will any LS trust an XP PT there anymore like we so naively did?

Do you expect the GodLS to stand by and watch a whole day's worth of worth fly out the window? Or do you expect them to fight fire with fire?

 

[decidence]

damn even xp pt outclaims bol, that sad

A classic one for you all, here.

If you guys wont take the time to read the threads, why bother trying to post reply's? Should I treat your reply's with the same respect?

sorry, you arent going to mpk me are you?

I dunno how =P

 

[Rone]

Is it just me or are people missing the whole point of the MPK,...

 

[cohibuu]

what point? bol isnt the only ls that need autumnstone

 

[decidence]

what point? bol isnt the only ls that need autumnstone

Funny you say this... cuz Rollie told me in /tell that none of them were in GodLS or needed the stone (this was supposed justification of them supposidely going to give us the stone after killing it).