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[Legomyeggo]

lol...its wrong to mpk...BoL was wrong. Even though there was an agreement, its wrong. You guys took their exp mobs they took ulli they claimed, so they have the right to fight. Fucken leave sky if your gonna mpk...

Jesus crhist, you kiddies seriously need to stop chiming in on the arguement at hand like your 2cents is gonna make a fuckin difference. Power Rangers is on a few hours, don't miss it.

1 of the possibility would be bol alliance killing golem due to protection and or aggro ( golem = sight/magic aggro)

There are 2 or 3 Golems that aggro from the camp where the alliance was at, so this seems most logical.

 

[xKronox]

Krono should shut the fuck up... i dont even know him and he sounds like a little bitch...

WYS layed the whole situtation with nothing left out, if it was a NA and JP LS CC, with no communication, MPK would be wrong. But this was A SKY LS and a XP party. the agreement suited both groups... XP party gets the XP, sky LS gets the trigger NM

mistaya, fyi, the whole time it has been 4-6 hours, WYS only said 8 hours because BoL was in sky for a total of 8 hours(i was there the other 2 hours at despot, zip, ect)

I just gotta throw my 2 cents in, we dont just MPK randomly.... if someone gets to a NM before us, we wont MPK.... i know this because the last 2 days ive farmed weve been late, and shown up late to a ton of NM.. but we just leave and we even made agreements with other sky LS on sharing the NM

However, if you just look at the facts.... which have been laid out(ill summarize)
-agreement made, Bol gets ulli, xp party gets xp mobs (bol camped ulli 4-6 hours so far)
-ulli pops, xp party takes it (against agreement)
-xp party wotn answer tells after BoL asked for Ulli
-BoL MPK's (not sure if the xp party MPK, i was not there)

so you honestly wouldnt MPK if some XP party took it, didnt answer your tells (BIG HINT that they are messing with you), especially since you made an agreement (and yes, there was an agreement made, ask the people in the xp party, so KRONO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT DECI SAYING THERE WAS NO AGREEMENT, BECAUSE THERE WAS)

First of all where was the understanding that we had?

I'm not saying there was or wasn't an agreement. I'm just saying that decidence's first post was totally oposite of what he and WYS said later.

PS: I like those little jabs at me, you act like I'm the only person here who belives BoL did wrong by MPKing. I think you are biast, and everything you say is irrelevant. And there is no justifying what happened, so stop pointing the finger at me, and stop being dumbass.

 

[Rone]

lol...its wrong to mpk...BoL was wrong. Even though there was an agreement, its wrong. You guys took their exp mobs they took ulli they claimed, so they have the right to fight. Fucken leave sky if your gonna mpk...

Jesus crhist, you kiddies seriously need to stop chiming in on the arguement at hand like your 2cents is gonna make a fuckin difference. Power Rangers is on a few hours, don't miss it.

1 of the possibility would be bol alliance killing golem due to protection and or aggro ( golem = sight/magic aggro)

There are 2 or 3 Golems that aggro from the camp where the alliance was at, so this seems most logical.

Maybe you should grow the fuck up and realize it's ALL ABOUT THE MPK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mattter what EITHER SIDE DID NOTHING JUSTIFIES AN MPK!!!!!!!
PERIOD END OF FUCKING STORY,....................

THEY MPK'd AND THEY SHOULD GROWN enough to ADMIT it AND APPOLOGIZE

 

[Legomyeggo]

lol...its wrong to mpk...BoL was wrong. Even though there was an agreement, its wrong. You guys took their exp mobs they took ulli they claimed, so they have the right to fight. Fucken leave sky if your gonna mpk...

Jesus crhist, you kiddies seriously need to stop chiming in on the arguement at hand like your 2cents is gonna make a fuckin difference. Power Rangers is on a few hours, don't miss it.

1 of the possibility would be bol alliance killing golem due to protection and or aggro ( golem = sight/magic aggro)

There are 2 or 3 Golems that aggro from the camp where the alliance was at, so this seems most logical.

Maybe you should grow the fuck up and realize it's ALL ABOUT THE MPK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No mattter what EITHER SIDE DID NOTHING JUSTIFIES AN MPK!!!!!!!
PERIOD END OF FUCKING STORY,....................

THEY MPK'd AND THEY SHOULD GROWN enough to ADMIT it AND APPOLOGIZE

Youre not posting anything intelligent/relevant/amusing either. Shutting the fuck up would be good.

 

[Rone]

And what is not intelligent about GOING BACK TO THE MAIN POINT

THEY MPKd PERIOD
END OF STORY

NOTHING WILL EVER JUSTIFY THE MPK!


Don't get ur panties in bunch because I disagree calm down lil girl before u pee ur pants

 

[Legomyeggo]

Because everything has been solved for the most part. Where does it say that MPK is more drastic than Stealing? Both sides wronged each other, nothing is justified, it's not THAT hard to understand...

 

[Rone]

Because everything has been solved for the most part. Where does it say that MPK is more drastic than Stealing? Both sides wronged each other, nothing is justified, it's not THAT hard to understand...

It may not be written but it is a common understanding amongst the civilized that you don't MPK another pt PERIOD and just because they out claimed you it still doesn't justify it,... hell if that was the case then there would be a mass slauther in all the EXP camps because everyone is trying to out claim each other but do u see that often?

I'll agree to a certain extent that both sides MAYBE wrong it all depends on you're outlook BUT THE FACT IS certain members of BoL MPKd and THEY are TRYING to JUSTIFY their actions,... which is completely wrong,... It's like me walking up to someone shotting him in the head and trying to justify to everyone "oh i did it cause he stole from me",.... yes it's all just a game BUT FUCK without any type of order there will be choas IF this type of actions are condoned there would be anarchy through-out the server and it's up to us the players to TRY and keep our own order where MPkn should be looked down upon INSTEAD OF CONDONED.... If we don't stand up and voice our disagreements to these types of actions IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!

No one wants an all out war with everone trying to get each other killed til everyone delvels back down to 5 but FUCK IT if that's how people wanna play this game I'm in,... It's still pretty damn entertaining to me

 

[Reality]

i agree with rone

there is absolutely no discussion on the grounds of MPKing another party, i don't care if they called your momma fat, or made fun or your little retarded brother. if you guys wanted the NM, you should have been out there standing in the center waiting for him to pop, simple as that

sorry to bring back an old topic, but i feel it relates to this. i remember when Maseki MPK'd BOL and they were all up and down on this forum saying how wrong it was, and how there was absolutely nothing that can justify MPKing another party, my how the times have changed

i guess rules change when they benefit you

this is just my opinion

 

[Firestreak]

Unlike most people here defending this MPK, I am not a member of BoL... however I must say one thing. MPK CAN be justified sometime. If your only leg to stand on argumentively is no matter what it's unfair to MPK, then that means, you could be fighting Ulli, kiting him around the teleporter and some exp party runs in and claims him as he turns yellowl. Then you have to sit back and take it in the ass because "MPK is never justified"?

The fact is there are ethics that every LS follows because if we were all down our each other's throats we couldn't get anything done. A lot of the people posting on this thread have not gotten any god armor. They don't know what it's like to go up to sky for hours and have to work schedules out with other LS to share NM so everyone gets what they need while trying to spend their time effecticely. People work things out, go to other pop items, tell each other ToD, camp on different schedules. Stealing a pop item NM is a breach of these ethics.

Does this mean now that if BoL is camping Ulli I won't be able to exp because these ethics are now out the window? Is MPK to enforce these ethics worse or is breaking the ethics and making pop items just like any other HNM camp worse? Consider this long and hard before you continue your campaign of chanting how MPK is always wrong and then saying AMEN to everything like an asshole.

Everything about gods is very uniquely different than anything in lower level aspect of the game. It's not like you can be camping for your coffer key in Beadeaux and after 4 hours your "coffer mob" pops. Everything that requires work to get to is simply a question of getting a drop of mobs, not forcing a mob to spawn. What if when you traded your coffer key you had to fight a NM, and what if some guy breezed through and stole your NM for his AF? These things can't happen in lower level so MPK can never seem justified. There doesn't have to be ethics or coordination because all rewards based of hard work are short term based.

In sky... to figiht kirin...
Must get 2 pop items for all gods, involving killing many NM and non NM, lots of legwork and time camping.
Then you have to pop every god and beat them to get a seal off each.
Then trade 1 seal of each god just for 1 kirin fight.

If at any point some other LS is already popping that god, if someone was to steal a god when it turned yellow, ext, a LS of hard workers is fucked out of a lot of time.

So just consider all this.

 

[Kirayamato]

If you do not want to waste your precious time. You should have camp in the middle!

MPK is like killing in the real world. You can justify Killing in the real world?

MPK.. Killing in the real World are not solutions to your god damn problem or mistakes.

You 100% trusted the other party. Who would 100% trust another person esp strangers. Look at our server con-artist Syliph. If that is valuable to you, you should always have special caution on that area no matter what agreement.

But NO!!! YOU PPL TOOK THINGS FOR GRANTED

You should have the consequence for that!

 

[Firestreak]

MPK is not like killing in the real world. When you get killed in the real world you don't wait for a raise or spawn back at your bedroom 1 hour later. People get raise 3 and they get 95% of the exp loss back. If death was permaneant people wouldn't do things to justify getting themselves MPKed.

Just a weird question to all of you. If MPK is never justified, then isn't the party unjustified to MPK back after being MPKed? Should BoL make a thread to flame the party who retaliatingly MPKed?

 

[Kergleplexic]

Here are the facts:


Blood of Legends (Whatever the hell that name means) has "secretly" conspired amongst themselves to MPK Brianfist, Reality, Streetz, and other certain members of ThousandSwords (NA) and HundredSwords (JP).

That is all.

 

[Answa~]

Should BoL make a thread to flame the party who retaliatingly MPKed?

Sure.

 

[Tymon]

Here are the facts:


Blood of Legends (Whatever the hell that name means) has "secretly" conspired amongst themselves to MPK Brianfist, Reality, Streetz, and other certain members of ThousandSwords (NA) and HundredSwords (JP).

That is all.

None of those people are in either of those linkshells.

Brianfist and Streetz(up until recently) are/were both in BoL.

 

[Neche]

Colbwa your a fucking idiot.


Brianfist is BoL you retard.

 

[Eladamiri]

Krono,,, why are you here

I love this

First of all where was the understanding that we had?

That is what decidence said in his first post ^^^^^^^

Now... hmm... if you look in the next paragraph, you will fins something amazing!!!!

The KICKER here is, after we stopped pulling golems and stopped spamming voke because we all saw there was a PT here now and they had apparently said they werent going to pull Ullikummi... the NM decides to finally spawn... and Vindictive vokes it about 5 seconds after it popped. AFTER we had all stopped spamming to let this XP PT (who has only been in there camp for like 15mins max) kill golems.

YES, that is in the next paragraph!!!! damn you must feel like a retard... no no.. i know.. you are the media. This is the same shit the media pulls... you must be a liberal :roll:

 

[Raesvelg]

/sigh... Last post on this thread, since people seem to be utterly factional about it.

1.) The XP party thought they had an agreement upon entering the zone
2.) That agreement was not sufficiently communicated within the BoL alliance and therefore effectively void.
3.) After half an hour of (from their perspective) getting screwed on the deal, the XP party came out, and apparently a new agreement was in the process of being struck, but at that time NO MENTION WAS MADE of the XP party not claiming Ulli.
4.) While they're still working out what exactly is going to happen, Ulli pops, Vind claims it.
5.) After numerous attempts to claim steal, members of the BoL alliance get sufficiently irritated to MPK.
6.) Shortly before the MPK succeeds, Vind is kind enough to bring back those wayward mobs that Scwall left behind....

Now, for those of you who say "MPK was justified, BoL had spend 8 hours, etc etc etc"... No. 'Fraid not. Assume you're wandering through the Crawler's Nest one day, looking for a coffer spawn. You've got some friends with you, and you decide "Hey, let's go see if Simurgh is up!". So you wander on out, Simmy pops, you outclaim the campers, who for the sake of this argument have been there for 8 hours waiting for a pop. I strongly doubt that you'd feel the people were justified to MPK you, and you'd probably be here flaming them within the day. By that logic, I could get together a crapload of friends, go down and camp Serket all day, and then MPK anyone who out-claimed me. After all, I'd put tons of time into it. I'd be justified, right?

I think not.

Now... as for the second half of the argument, that the XP party had agreed not to claim Ulli, that's another matter, but given the fact that both sides admit that the whole thing failed from a communication perspective, it's not something you can blame on either side.

Meh, when you get right down to it, the agreement should have been formalized from the instant they walked into the area, and the main failure on that end belongs to whoever in the BoL alliance that was doing the talking initially.

 

[anesly]

you must be a liberal :roll:

Don't be a dumbass, Elad.

 

[Rone]

Unlike most people here defending this MPK, I am not a member of BoL... however I must say one thing. MPK CAN be justified sometime. If your only leg to stand on argumentively is no matter what it's unfair to MPK, then that means, you could be fighting Ulli, kiting him around the teleporter and some exp party runs in and claims him as he turns yellowl. Then you have to sit back and take it in the ass because "MPK is never justified"?

The fact is there are ethics that every LS follows because if we were all down our each other's throats we couldn't get anything done. A lot of the people posting on this thread have not gotten any god armor. They don't know what it's like to go up to sky for hours and have to work schedules out with other LS to share NM so everyone gets what they need while trying to spend their time effecticely. People work things out, go to other pop items, tell each other ToD, camp on different schedules. Stealing a pop item NM is a breach of these ethics.

Does this mean now that if BoL is camping Ulli I won't be able to exp because these ethics are now out the window? Is MPK to enforce these ethics worse or is breaking the ethics and making pop items just like any other HNM camp worse? Consider this long and hard before you continue your campaign of chanting how MPK is always wrong and then saying AMEN to everything like an asshole.

Everything about gods is very uniquely different than anything in lower level aspect of the game. It's not like you can be camping for your coffer key in Beadeaux and after 4 hours your "coffer mob" pops. Everything that requires work to get to is simply a question of getting a drop of mobs, not forcing a mob to spawn. What if when you traded your coffer key you had to fight a NM, and what if some guy breezed through and stole your NM for his AF? These things can't happen in lower level so MPK can never seem justified. There doesn't have to be ethics or coordination because all rewards based of hard work are short term based.

In sky... to figiht kirin...
Must get 2 pop items for all gods, involving killing many NM and non NM, lots of legwork and time camping.
Then you have to pop every god and beat them to get a seal off each.
Then trade 1 seal of each god just for 1 kirin fight.

If at any point some other LS is already popping that god, if someone was to steal a god when it turned yellow, ext, a LS of hard workers is fucked out of a lot of time.

So just consider all this.

Urggh I'm done with this thread as most people can't seem to see past their own intentions and their own arrogance :roll:
BTW Guess from THIS I can MPK anyone because they took something from me,... well I GUESS EVERYONE BETTER WATCH OUT since I'm always being outclaimed

 

[Eladamiri]

you must be a liberal :roll:

Don't be a dumbass, Elad.

why cant i?

it was a joke too, because the media is know as being more "liberal" and the media leaves key facts out, like krono did