Re: Ulli
Moev said:
Trying to be as objective about this situation as I can and looking at it from both sides. It's kind of hard since I know each one of the people in that exp party very well. They are all skilled players and noramlly play with high morals in regards to their way of playing.
I have to start by saying I just find it funny that a LS like BOL is always talking about how they are a skilled LS which plays with honor and respect. Whenever I stop by Jeuno for supplies I have seen their members shouting for members, saying things along those lines.
I can understand waiting for along time for a pop to then lose the claim and being upset. I spent many many hours camping NM's before I got bored and decided to play whm on Moev's name. Shit happens though.
That being said I have to point out something. I personally was in a exp party at the Ulli camp, when one of my SkyLS members told proph that we were only there for exp and how they could have ulli.
With in two minutes OH stopped killing exp mobs and focused on the Ulli claim. I have to point out that this was not the case since we had planned to get both exp and kill Ulli before heading to sky. Ulli can easily be killed with a single party, but since we had some first timers to sky I knew that we wouldn't be able to kill Ulli.
Ulli popped and against what was told to OH, and against myself saying NO several times to pulling Ulli we took the claim. During the battle I msg'd Proph and appologized while trying to keep my members alive. Not once did he bitch or cry about how he was told that Oh could have the claim and then was taken. He questioned why would we would do that though, I was actually more upset about it then him. I told him that we were going to wipe and to be ready for the claim, all he asked was that was don't call for help.
With Ulli dead in a few hits we had suffered enough deaths and OH got the claim and drop. So all worked out in the end. However I to this day have never heard a bad word spoken about us for the actions of this one member. No flame appeared on the msg board. Our Ls's are still on good terms to this day. No Mpk's occured. Even if we were going to be able to kill Ulli and would have kept the drop I highly doubt that OH would have MPK'd us. In this case they would have been totally with in thier rights to do so.
The thing is weither or not the party and BOL had an agreement or not I don't really see how it matters. They continued to kill exp mobs so in no way did the exp party do anything wrong.
People have talked about rules. There is no enforcable rule saying you can't CC another LS, however most of the LS's work together rather then against each other. Just as their is no rule saying a party can't claim and kill Ulli. Even if they are there for exp.
Again I just find it funny how a LS that spews out all this crap about honor and respect would make an agreement (or not, whichever fits BOL's best interests at the time) go back on it, and then MPK that party which out claimed them. Then again it really isn't a huge suprize BOL was out claimed on something.
There is something more to it for the reason why BOL is so often talked badly about and why they are always the butt of all sky LS's jokes. That is why you see them getting flamed and not other sky LS's.
It's sad because not every single person i BOL is bad, either way maybe they should make up their minds though. Either play with honor and respect like you love to claim you do, or CC and MPK proudly. Atleast everyone will know where you stand, including your own LS people. It's not like we all don't know what your about anyway.
Atleast you will save time in not having to make lame excuses. It would be like "yeah we MPK'd you what you going to do about it", rather then hiding behind a (weakly argued) excuse.
Sky LS's get respected for saying what they mean, sometimes working together, and on their skills as a LS. Obviously your something is not right when so many people think so poorly of a LS, and sadly all people see is your LS and you get lumped in with everything they do. Regardless if you are a good helpful player who is skilled in your job.
In the end you will continue to do what you do, people will continue to look down on BOL, so really what's the point?
but honestly lets look at your post and determine how much of a fucking retard you really are
1.) you start by saying you are trying to look at this from post sides... wrong... even a retard can tell you are completely bias and ignorant.. everything you talk about you make BoL our to look like the bad guys.. when in reality its not the truth.
2.) Since when the fuck have we recruited through shouts? I think you pulled that one out of your ass because I bet every damn person on the server would agree.... no one(including me) has ever seen BoL shout for members in jueno(i joined couple weeks ago) this is totally uncalled for to make such accusations with your head up your ass
3.) I understand your xp party made agreement with OH for Ulli... fantastic.... however.. if you kept claim and did not send any tells to prophecy saying you would give it back + you started to kill it.... id be dissapointed if OH didnt MPK your fucking brains out....
You see... BoL...we can make agreements with XP partys... after the big Ulli incisdent... we made an agreement with XP party in which we did not touch one gollem and we waited for Ulli... i have picuresas proof
4.) you talk about there needs to be "teamwork" in sky.. totally understandable
most LS cooperate with ToD's so other LS dont waste time... we have done this many times with other LS// however Ulli is differnt..
quoted from a valkyrs respected member kuryamato(not to exact, but you get point)
"every LS needs Ulli, stop bitching about CC"
we have and been CCed at Ulli.. by affinity, JP LS, valkyrs (2 time)
just today, valkyrs and BoL CC each other at Ulli... no one complained..... we were joking around before the pop...... when noobs like you dont know what the fuck is going on in sky.. and start pulling the most random shit out of your ass.. you make yourself look like a retard...
since Valkyrs was cool abuout everything , if we find ourselves CCing in the future BoL wont steal or MPK... hell BoL wont steal from anyone or MPK at Ulli because its basically a HNM now... ask any of the other sky LS
Basically.. people like you need to stfu kthnx
you make me cry myself to sleep @ nite somtimes