Budget Cut Bullshit

[Rones]

Darkdante, you have reached a new low.

Ok first of all all you guys supposdly in the Military and supposdly that went to ROTC havent you ever heard this line?

"The mark of a true soldier and sailor has always been loyalty and obedience to leaders."

I dunno maybe you were asleep whenever they fed you that line. Maybe its like normal whenever most of us go to school half asleep, half dead, half ass, drunk as fuck, its not like any of you ever rememberd the point of school anyway right?

No, they don't use that line. Have you been in rotc and been told that? Everyone else on these forums who has is saying no. What is your source?

Why do they even give a title of "Airman" to somebody that sits in a server room all day harassing people on internet game forums and screwing around 99% of the time? Its not like you do anything remotely close to being in the "Air", the closest you probably get to being in the air is when you break wind. TELL ME I"M WRONG. If they gave you a title like "Senior Geek" hey, now that would make sense, and don't get me wrong since I"m in the same boat.

Its no small wonder that the army guys get jealos of the Air Force, you guys are spoiled and arn't "real" soilders, "fighting men", that would require you to act as a team. What use is "loyalty" and "obidience" to people sitting around playing computer games all day? It doesn't take loyalty and obidience to push a button, that takes personal dedication, and self motivation, these 2 things don't work well in groups however which is why you geeks have a harder time working in groups, than the lemming like Army guys.

Thank you for further proof you have no idea how our military works.

No Rones that is your opinion, that being the opinion of a high school kid vs. the opinon of a man who follows politics for his livelyhood.

You should know by now I am not a high school student and yes I said that is my opinion already. I'm sure you really know how much experience that author has. :wink: If that guy really had lots of experience he would add supporting information to back up his opinion.

Ya but only because you critisize us for not having any "proof" and want to wage a propaganda war.

I go out of my way to provide varied sources and as unbiased as I can find. That is a heck of lot better than your common lack of sources and whining about me link hounding. You are in no position to criticize.

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With the Iran comment I guess you got me there since it is in Bush's gameplan to "blow up" the situation and rape the American public once again, so maybe he'll make sure that happens and in that case I guess your right.

Check again. It is the UN that is pushing Iran into the light and most importantly not just the US. Many countries are concerned enough to have pushed Iran in front of the security council. This is not something Bush has control of.

Even the French are worried about Iran this time and that's not propaganda, that's straight fact.

 

[masterorion]

Ok first of all all you guys supposdly in the Military and supposdly that went to ROTC havent you ever heard this line?

"The mark of a true soldier and sailor has always been loyalty and obedience to leaders."

I dunno maybe you were asleep whenever they fed you that line. Maybe its like normal whenever most of us go to school half asleep, half dead, half ass, drunk as fuck, its not like any of you ever rememberd the point of school anyway right?

Seems like Masterion knows what I'm talking about so he must be in the Army.



Why do they even give a title of "Airman" to somebody that sits in a server room all day harassing people on internet game forums and screwing around 99% of the time? Its not like you do anything remotely close to being in the "Air", the closest you probably get to being in the air is when you break wind. TELL ME I"M WRONG. :biggrin: If they gave you a title like "Senior Geek" hey, now that would make sense, and don't get me wrong since I"m in the same boat.

Its no small wonder that the army guys get jealos of the Air Force, you guys are spoiled and arn't "real" soilders, "fighting men", that would require you to act as a team. What use is "loyalty" and "obidience" to people sitting around playing computer games all day? It doesn't take loyalty and obidience to push a button, that takes personal dedication, and self motivation, these 2 things don't work well in groups however which is why you geeks have a harder time working in groups, than the lemming like Army guys.

Of course you wouldn't understand these sorts of things since your in the Airforce. :bugeye:



Thats the whole point, why are you arguing?



So your willing to die for bad publicity? Abu Garahb should be proof that soilders follow orders, and there are still bad leaders. I aint saying this is fool proof, but this is how it works, it doesn't work when you have an idiot who quesitons every order.



No Rones that is your opinion, that being the opinion of a high school kid vs. the opinon of a man who follows politics for his livelyhood.

With the Iran comment I guess you got me there since it is in Bush's gameplan to "blow up" the situation and rape the American public once again, so maybe he'll make sure that happens and in that case I guess your right. :wink:



Ya but only because you critisize us for not having any "proof" and want to wage a propaganda war. :biggrin:

i havent been in the military for quite a few years now. i was in the marines from 96-2k

honestly, i dont think ive ever heard them preach "The mark of a true soldier and sailor has always been loyalty and obedience to leaders."

 

[Shaunessy]

The mark of a true soldier is if they uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. That is what we pledge to defend. Not some guy in Washington. That gives us the right to disobey any unlawful order given. Even if it comes from the President him/her self.

 

[Darkdante]

Darkdante, you have reached a new low.

Awesome! :bb:

Have you been in rotc and been told that?

Yes Sir! Thank you Sir!

If that guy really had lots of experience he would add supporting information to back up his opinion.

Why does he need to do that when it's common knowledge? This crap has been going on since 1987 and he somehow magically thinks he can put it in his budget this year?

Actually he would have had good cause had this been May of last year, but this is now Feb 2006, alot has happened since then.

You are in no position to criticize.

Niether are you.

Check again. It is the UN that is pushing Iran into the light and most importantly not just the US. Many countries are concerned enough to have pushed Iran in front of the security council. This is not something Bush has control of.

Even the French are worried about Iran this time and that's not propaganda, that's straight fact.

Hell, If I was the U.N. and saw that because of the crap I pulled last time I couldn't get in on some of the 60 Billion in profits that America made, I too would do an about face and change my tune.