Checking *bum bum bumm*

No-one is saying that it isnt rude to check them if they have specifically asked them not to.

Firestreak thinks it is rude to check, most other people here think it's just a game feature and that some people are a bit uptight about it.

I think that that sums up this thread properly.
 
Ok, I'll say one last thing, and this is simply because I think some of us have different definitions of what is rude.

The most important thing is that it's all about context.

To explain: I'll give a good real life example. I'm Jewish and my good friend is Italian. We've been friends since we were like 10 years olds and obviously have no trouble with each other's heritage. However, a normal conversation might go like this.

"Quit being a damn Jew."
"Why don't you make me some pasta, asshole?"

Simply because we know we aren't going to offend each other. This conversation in a private place is ok, however you wouldn't want to hear that in a public restaurant.

We can all agree on this. Two good friends who are just joking around can call each other whatever they want. However you need to watch your language in a public place.

This however often isn't carried over onto the internet.
For example: http://www.qcdn.org/viewtopic.php?t=6483

Now I am Jewish, and while I was not offended, because I have heard stuff like that a million times by people who aren't racist, I think most of us will agree that it was in fact rude.

The important disctinction is: This is rude because some people might be offended. Most people wouldn't be offended. Anyone who is not Jewish has no reason to be offended. Many Jewish people wouldn't be offended. However the point is some people might have been, hence it becomes rude. It doesn't matter how small a population it would offend, it simply matters about the context. The context is, in a public arena it's displayed to everyone.

Some people might have a hangup about their personal privacy. Some people might not like the loss of control of being checked. Hence, unless I know someone doesn't think there's anything wrong with being checked (they check me, I ask them if I can check and they say yes) I am not sure. So if I just checked randomly, I'd feel like maybe I had been rude.

>>I don't think it's a huge deal.
>>I don't think it's a blacklistable offense.
>>I think it's a little bit rude.

Because it's all about context. Regardless of if they should or should not mind being checked. Regardless of it's about the old childish idea of being given the stink-eye or not, it's how many people feel. I'l also point out many many people I know have never checked me before. Either they don't care or they think it's rude. I have no idea. But I'm certainly more appreciative when people ask, not because I'm offended in the least, but because I know that just means they are a polite person and I prefer people like that.
 
i just want to make a point.

your gear is NOT PRIVATE. it can easily be seen by anyone.

additionaly, the designers of the game created the 'check' command, a feature whose sole function is make you gear and its stats PUBLIC.

'checking' is a purposely designed part of the game.

thank you. flame on.
 
No need to flame when your right.

Oh and Firestreak you have yet to give me a direct answer as to what cause a check in game to be considered rude. Hearsay isn't going to work cause I can just say "Well I talked to a Japanese and he says they just made it up to be bitched" So want to know what causes it not that it happens.
 
I have stated several times within this post why I consider it rude. In addition I've tried to put it into context as to why the people who would consider it rude might not be satisified simply by filtering. Furthermore I've gone as far as to explain exactly what it means to "be rude" in my personal opinion, as opposed to offensive so that you could understand my previous arguments more clearly.

Not trying to pick a fight here, honestly, but please read my posts before you assume they don't include what you think would constitute a legiamate argument. Afterall I've done the courtesy to read yours, and I don't feel the need to quote myself within the same post. I think the extent of my argument is on page 3 and 4. Enjoy.
 
why you consider it to be rude means nothing here, unless you happen to be japanese? if so then I am sorry. But if you aren't I want to know why the japanese culture finds it offensive.

Also you have yet to use an example of something to did A: involve real life, which can just immediately be thrown out the window cause if they could be compared I would have teleports myself and be able to rent a chocobo to get to work. Or B: involve intereaction from the player that is being checked, "It's like a party invite" I'm going to have to raise the BS flag on this one, because when I get a pt invite I have to go through actions to not accept it. when I get checked I have too do.... umm.. wait a minute NOTHING.

So I will ask again Why do the Japanese find it offensive. I will not accept that they just do, nor will I accept RL answers.

Also I just want to say I hold nothing personal against you firestreak most of my posts have come for mindnight shift from work and I was bored for a conflict, I happen to find you and thank you very much for keeping my mind busy.
 
why you consider it to be rude means nothing here, unless you happen to be japanese? if so then I am sorry. But if you aren't I want to know why the japanese culture finds it offensive.
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I have said that Japanese players find it offensive more often than NA players. I have attempted to explain to you why, however I've also explained that why doesn't really matter. We can at least agree that it is true that they do.


Also you have yet to use an example of something to did A: involve real life, which can just immediately be thrown out the window cause if they could be compared I would have teleports myself and be able to rent a chocobo to get to work. Or B: involve intereaction from the player that is being checked, "It's like a party invite" I'm going to have to raise the BS flag on this one, because when I get a pt invite I have to go through actions to not accept it. when I get checked I have too do.... umm.. wait a minute NOTHING.
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This is a little unclear to me, so I'll try to decipher it best I can. You're working the night shift so I'm not gonna give you a hard time for it. Real life examples don't have any meaning, because this is an online game? I see, I had been under the impression that on the other end of all the people I see in game is in fact a human being who does exist within thie real world. I'll note many people seem to forget this online because of the anonymous nature of a virtual reality world. E.G, if you went around insepcting people's clothing on a crowded city street you might get punched in the face. I mean certainly they don't have to do anything except just stand there, but some people might see a problem there.
 
Hmmm. I've read this post daily since I stumbled upon it. I have to admit that the points don't really change daily either. Everyone has a decided opinion on this issue, and no one wishes to change their opinion. Here's the thing.. Rude, as Firestreak and the opposing sides very much implied, is basically a relative thing. What is rude to one person may not be rude to another person. I think everyone who has posted more or less agrees on that. Rude can be no more definitely defined than "warm" or "chilly." Being from the South, when it drops below about 70 it's chilly to me, and anything less than that it's getting down right cold. The same may not be true for someone who lives in a habitat where the highest temperature ever recorded was like, 10 degrees. So, rude, being the adjective it is, cannot possibly be definitive. Anyway, my point, before I went on that digression. Both sides to this issue have presented, for the most part, some very good, and very logical arguments. However, because it is such a relative topic, there is no way it can ever reach a final conclusion. Some people will thing checking without a /tell is rude. Some people would contend that doing a /sea Saphayd so you know my job and, hell, where I am, and whether I'm in party or not is equally as rude. Fact of the matter is, it's not up to us to decide whether it is for anyone but ourselves. It's strictly a personal thing, for all persons involved. It cannot be avoided, as is likely with any situation that brings together culturally diverse beings into a common place. We simply must understand that we all have different views, and when we have unwillingly offended somebody, apologize, and be mature as we try not to upset that person again. Just my thoughts.. In one big mushy mess. ^~
 
I think people need to remeber its a game. When I check you, its not as if I'm looking at you in the shower. If your are so emotionaly involved with your charecter that being checked is an invasion of your privacy, you need to do a few things:
1.Turn off the computer
2.Go outside
3. Find people in real life to interact with, cause you have lost all perspective... Maybe even a member of the opposite sex.
 
Why do people get mad? It's just flattering. People think you look cool, and want to be like you.

Oh noez!!! Sum1 chequed meh!!

Stop complaining and get back on the race to lv75..
 
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