Courtesy, can I have it? Oops, forgot Decidence is an ass

Raesvelg said:
Yes. By sending them /tells and ASKING them.

To be honest, that business of camping on top of other parties in limited xp zones pisses me off. One of the various reasons that I despised the Valley of Sorrows. Every time I xp'd there, useless idiots would zone in, and set up camp practically on top of us. 1 other camp is fine... 2 is pushing it. But we literally had FOUR other parties zone in and camp in the same fucking tunnel. It's much the same basis of the reasons I don't like Garlaige Citadel. Given areas can only support a certain number of parties. If you don't pay attention to that, you wind up gimping not only the other people's XP, but your own.

When we zone into Dragon's Aery, do we camp at the tree zone on top of the other party? No, move to the Zi'Tah zone. It's not hard to get to. If there are 2 parties there already, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. Ditto for Den of Rancor, Valley of Sorrows, and a laundry list of other zones.

Saying "A little xp is better than none" is asinine. That "little xp" is your OWN damn fault, there's always somewhere else you could go and get a LOT of xp, or at least more than you are while screwing over someone else.
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not everyone knows of other camps. look at all the level 75 merit pts. KRT is dominated by mnks, uleguerand is a pain in the ass to get to which leaves sky as the other alternative.
hell, even playing lower level jobs, i don't know of other camps, i'm sure a lot of ppl who don't have a 75 job won't know either since it's their first time through.
and, if it takes 30-45 mins to get somewhere, yes, some xp is better than none if the average lower level pt doesn't last more than 2 without someone leaving.
 
yanzi said:
not everyone knows of other camps. look at all the level 75 merit pts. KRT is dominated by mnks, uleguerand is a pain in the ass to get to which leaves sky as the other alternative.
hell, even playing lower level jobs, i don't know of other camps, i'm sure a lot of ppl who don't have a 75 job won't know either since it's their first time through.
and, if it takes 30-45 mins to get somewhere, yes, some xp is better than none if the average lower level pt doesn't last more than 2 without someone leaving.
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lol Yanzi... that's another thing that pisses me off. People seeking for a party, getting one, finally getting to the camp and starting to XP... and saying "I have to leave in an hour", or worse, saying "sorry, gotta go" and just disbanding. If I can't *XP* for at least 3 hours, I don't seek. Which tends to cripple the amount of time I can actually party, but I think of it as simple common courtesy.

As for not knowing other camps... All I can say is research it. Lufaise Meadows, other parts of Sky as the OP mentioned, there are always alternatives if you take the time to find them.
 
Raesvelg said:
lol Yanzi... that's another thing that pisses me off. People seeking for a party, getting one, finally getting to the camp and starting to XP... and saying "I have to leave in an hour", or worse, saying "sorry, gotta go" and just disbanding. If I can't *XP* for at least 3 hours, I don't seek. Which tends to cripple the amount of time I can actually party, but I think of it as simple common courtesy.

As for not knowing other camps... All I can say is research it. Lufaise Meadows, other parts of Sky as the OP mentioned, there are always alternatives if you take the time to find them.
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nah, people are creatures of comfort. you pt someplace once, you want to pt there if you have good experiences. if you're serious about PT'ing somehwere unknown and getting max xp/hour, you're mistaken. no one ever says i'm looking for a 8k/hour pt but we're going to a new zone where we know nothing about the mobs and area. heck, last few times i was in the rumble crawler tunnel near h.beetles, i see 2 48-49 parties "attempt something new". both decide to pull h.beetles and both parties semi-wiped and call for help.
 
Kalendor said:
The issue is, we were perfectly happy getting chain12 before you came and not happy after (30% exp cut, no thanks).

The issue is, why not going somewhere else when you realize there are people doing the same thing at the same place or worse even, if there is a non-roaming PT exp-ing. The next area to do this kind of things is 5min away, wow, big deal.

You're the retard since you don't even see what the issue is. Once again, no surprise there.
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in all honesty.. they have the right and come to try and exp on top of you if they want. It might be rude but they could do it. Hell.. if I have a 4 WAR or 4 NIN cannon in sky I'll camp on top of people if they aren't friends and happily push them out by killing faster with my group. This game has become agressive in every aspect, HNM claiming, Farming, Crafting, and Exping.. just get used to it.
 
Elemmire said:
in all honesty.. they have the right and come to try and exp on top of you if they want. It might be rude but they could do it. Hell.. if I have a 4 WAR or 4 NIN cannon in sky I'll camp on top of people if they aren't friends and happily push them out by killing faster with my group. This game has become agressive in every aspect, HNM claiming, Farming, Crafting, and Exping.. just get used to it.
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That's what I'm talkin' about. Complete and total bullshit. Shame on you Ele. And, I'm friggin' serious.
 
Kat said:
That's what I'm talkin' about. Complete and total bullshit. Shame on you Ele. And, I'm friggin' serious.
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sorry kat.. that's the way this server/game is now. Everything is aggressive pretty much. When I go to exp for merits or a buffer (cause I hate leveling) I'll do what I can to maximize the exp. The thing is I usually exp when most others don't or exp in places most don't. I really wanna exp in Ulegrande Range more but to find 1 great bard, 1 great WHM, 3 great WAR/NIN (every member being well equipped and working hard) to exp for a few hours is very tough cause a lot are all over the place. I don't normally kick people/push people outta a camp but if there is really nowhere else and that camp can support two parties getting chains 6s atleast instead of one getting chain 12... well I'm gonna camp there.. I pay monthly outta my pocket for this game and I don't wanna not get crap done cause of another group that wants to get chain 12 and has been there for hours already (I've run into many groups like that). I'm gonna go agressive if I'm after stuff and I'll get what I want done. Now I won't go and MPK (unless they are gilsellers and I'm there already :P) and won't steal (unless they are gilsellers or TRULY deserve it like they stole from me before) but I will be agressive.
 
Don't try and give me moral lessons you fucken hillbillies... Everyone keeps saying we screwed our own experience... I dunno but 5-6k per hour is still ok to me when I only XP once in awhile... so we were perfectly happy where we were.

You weren't happy, and you left... suck it up princess.

If you wanna talk about 1 year ago, that camp wasn't exactly a cannon fest slaughterhouse for only 1 party back then either.

Zoolander go fuck yourself... stop being such a prissy bitch cuz your a gimp SAM that's still is pissed off that I budged in front of the NPC line... twice.

Here how bout this... don't talk to us, and I will continue to not give 2 shits about you or any of your LS's like usual.
 
decidence said:
Don't try and give me moral lessons you fucken hillbillies... Everyone keeps saying we screwed our own experience... I dunno but 5-6k per hour is still ok to me when I only XP once in awhile... so we were perfectly happy where we were.
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If 8K/hr is the LOW end of what a decent party is capable of, then yeah, you were doing gimp xp. And that's beside the point, because you decided to gimp someone else's xp to get your crappy xp, when you could have easily gone elsewhere and BOTH gotten decent xp.


decidence said:
You weren't happy, and you left... suck it up princess.
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Thus proving that you can out-asshole the OP. Good job!


decidence said:
If you wanna talk about 1 year ago, that camp wasn't exactly a cannon fest slaughterhouse for only 1 party back then either.
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Holy crap, a rare moment of relevance! So far, this is about the only thing that you've said that even remotely justifies your point... and yet, you still fail. Other camps were available, you're just lazy.


decidence said:
Zoolander go fuck yourself... stop being such a prissy bitch cuz your a gimp SAM that's still is pissed off that I budged in front of the NPC line... twice.
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Way to prove that you can be an asshole ALL the time, not just when you're trying to steal other people's camps and/or get gimp xp!

decidence said:
Here how bout this... don't talk to us, and I will continue to not give 2 shits about you or any of your LS's like usual.
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And yet you're here, trying to justify your actions while simultaneously playing the internet tough guy role.
 
First I would like to point out. Why was Decidence the target for this thread? Is it because you hear of him and BOL? What about the rest of his party? Oh I almost had forgotten, it's because he replied back in a rude manner so just because of that he gets flamed. Have you even messaged or made an attempt to send a /tell to the leader of that party he was in?

All this about morals and whatever. Sure I believe it's rude to camp on top of others and try to avoid it during xp pt's. But you can't simply just expect things to go your way, that's just plain silly. That's like expecting things in life to go your way but you know it doesn't happen often so you use what you feel is right and argue against it.
Yet you'd bring these morals into a game, played by other real life people, and try to use it to justify your argument. So then I say what puts you in a position to judge from right and wrong or rather in this case "courtesy". I'm sorry but if you're not prepared for things that don't go your way, please get out more, honestly. If not go play offline RPG's where things do go your way often, FFXII is just around the corner and I hear it has a similiar battle sytem to FFXI.
 
This is off subject a tad, but I just have to ask: Is Yanzi bein' played by someone else these days? H/she just doesn't "write" like the same person. Mebbe I'm nuts, but it just doesn't seem "right".
 
decidence said:
Don't try and give me moral lessons you fucken hillbillies... Everyone keeps saying we screwed our own experience... I dunno but 5-6k per hour is still ok to me when I only XP once in awhile... so we were perfectly happy where we were.

You weren't happy, and you left... suck it up princess.

If you wanna talk about 1 year ago, that camp wasn't exactly a cannon fest slaughterhouse for only 1 party back then either.

Zoolander go fuck yourself... stop being such a prissy bitch cuz your a gimp SAM that's still is pissed off that I budged in front of the NPC line... twice.

Here how bout this... don't talk to us, and I will continue to not give 2 shits about you or any of your LS's like usual.
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Deci, don't try to act like Vang. You can try til you're blue in the face, but there is only one Vang. You're acting more like how Keits used to be and I couldn't stand Keits. Vang's got character, and he may be a horses ass, but even I have to admit, more times than not he's right. He's just pisses you off so bad you wanna fight with him just to fight.

Anyway ...

PS. You better not be including me in that hillbilly comment. I will hunt you down and beat you like an egg.
 
decidence said:
Don't try and give me moral lessons you fucken hillbillies... Everyone keeps saying we screwed our own experience... I dunno but 5-6k per hour is still ok to me when I only XP once in awhile... so we were perfectly happy where we were.

You weren't happy, and you left... suck it up princess.

If you wanna talk about 1 year ago, that camp wasn't exactly a cannon fest slaughterhouse for only 1 party back then either.

Zoolander go fuck yourself... stop being such a prissy bitch cuz your a gimp SAM that's still is pissed off that I budged in front of the NPC line... twice.

Here how bout this... don't talk to us, and I will continue to not give 2 shits about you or any of your LS's like usual.
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lol gimp sam...ok...and i cannon on ninja. Thats a pretty stupid thing to say, I've never exped with you and if matching a mnk with black belts dmg or out dmging rngs on kirin as /rng as a sam is gimp or the dmg bellow is, then i guess im gimp. That was a really stupid thing to say, and sorry you're happy with 5k an hour, I guess I know not to exp with you.

As for the NPC line shit...I forgot about that until you just mentioned it, but I guess you didnt...still sad I didn't make a bigger deal about it when you asked me to?
 
Zoolander said:
lol gimp sam...ok...and i cannon on ninja. Thats a pretty stupid thing to say, I've never exped with you and if matching a mnk with black belts dmg or out dmging rngs on kirin as /rng as a sam is gimp or the dmg bellow is, then i guess im gimp. That was a really stupid thing to say, and sorry you're happy with 5k an hour, I guess I know not to exp with you.

As for the NPC line shit...I forgot about that until you just mentioned it, but I guess you didnt...still sad I didn't make a bigger deal about it when you asked me to?
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What, do you complain when you're getting 5k per hour? Remind me not to party with you... then again Ive made it through 3 jobs without ever having to.
 
5k/hour at 75 sucks dude, especially as a ninja. I never said 5k an hour sucks at lower lvls, but I expect better in cannons. And do you want a cookie for three 75 jobs? I have two 75 jobs and a 57 job, I guess I'm entitled to say whatever the hell I want to regardless if it has any basis, or do I have to wait till 75 war for that?
 
You don't understand... when I'm getting 5-6k an hour and not partied with a bunch of morons, exping for the first time in 2 weeks... I really could care less... I was happy and wasn't about to complain, I was having fun!

What a concept... fun.

Sure the normal 7-8k or even 12k an hour I had a couple weeks ago would of been nice, but I really don't care when I'm out there with competent friends.
 
Lol cannons are the most fun I've had in a long time with this game, and I always do them with Ls friends...so yea, I can obviously understand that crazy concept of fun. All I said was that you were using the "I wasn't the leader" excuse as a cop out, which if you've lvled three 75 jobs, I imagine you must know the leader is far from god of the party. Obviously you didn't care that somone else was there first and that both pts exp were suffering, which is somewhat lame. I dunno where the hell the Ls and gimp comment came from, I thought you were still in the same dynamis shell as me...
 
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