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Did anyone see what they did to Blau Dolch and Miscorde(sp)+1?

Blau Dolch now has a latent effect of DMG:33 and Miscorde+1 is DMG:28, same delays. Haven't seen Siccoro yet, but I bet it's sick.
 
Sirocco Kukri is now 26 DMG

I like it much.
 
Necrosis said:
nerf THF
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I think someone just wants a "nerf" like the blm got.. you know.. that crazy thing that just nerfed them to being better then they were....
 
Why not look at the huge threads pointing out all the update details that list, I don't know, all the questions people keeep asking?
 
Windy said:
Why not look at the huge threads pointing out all the update details that list, I don't know, all the questions people keeep asking?
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Why go through fifty pages of "w00t update" when you can ask a question and get an answer?
 
Pasquale said:
Why go through fifty pages of "w00t update" when you can ask a question and get an answer?
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its right on the first page...
 
Darklion said:
its right on the first page...
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Changes to dagger type weapons

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Kard: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 22 Delay: 190 +5 CHR
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Venom Kukri: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 21 Delay: 206 add: Poison
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Venom Kukri +1: : [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 22 Delay: 200 add: Poison
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Hoplites Harpe: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 27 Delay: 210
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Harpe: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 29 Delay: 210
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Valiant Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 21 Delay: 195
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Stun Kukri: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 23 Delay: 212 add: Stun
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Stun Kukri +1: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 24 Delay: 206 add: Stun
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Sirocco Kukri: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD]Dmg: 21 Dly: 150 Vs. Ice: -7 Vs. Wind: 7 Additional Effect: Wind Damage
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Daylight Dagger: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 24 Dly: 183 Daytime: Accuracy: 12
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Taillefer's Dagger: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 23 Delay: 187 String Instrument Skill: 3 Accuracy: -1
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Behemoth Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 25 Delay: 211 HP: 25 Attack: 8
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Behemoth Knife +1: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 26 Delay: 201 HP: 30 Attack: 10
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Thief's Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 24 Delay: 194 Treasure Hunter: 1
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Khanjar: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD]Damage: 23 Delay: 192 Increases Weapon Skill Damage Based on Day
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Misericorde: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 23 Delay: 183 MP: 10 DEX: 2 VIT: 2 MND: 2
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Misericorde +1: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 24 Delay: 178 MP: 11 DEX: 3 VIT: 3 MND: 3
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Dagger of Trials: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD]Dmg: 23 Dly: 200 + buncha latents
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Master Caster's Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 20 Delay: 176 | Citizens of Windurst: Defense: 10
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Buccaneer's Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 13 Dly: 200 Vs. Water: 7
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Bartholomew's Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 23 Dly: 200 AGI: 2 Vs. Water: 8 Steal: 2 Additional Effect: Water Damage
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Stylet: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 25 Delay: 195 DEX: 4 AGI: 2 Enmity: 1
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Titan's Baselard: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 23 Delay: 186 Vit: 4 Atk +8 Latent Effect: Damage 28
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Blau Dolch: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 22 Delay: 178 Latent Effect: DMG: 28
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Martial Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Damage: 23 Delay: 186 | TP Bonus
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Gully: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 25 Dly: 205 HP: 10 DEX: 2 VIT: 2 Vs. Water: 8
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Gully +1: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 26 Dly: 200 HP: 11 DEX: 3 VIT: 3 Vs. Water: 9
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Ponderous Gully: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 25 Dly: 205 HP: 10 DEX: 2 VIT: 2 Vs. Water: 8 Enchantment: Stone
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X's Knife: [NEW]Damage: --- Delay: ---
[OLD] Dmg: 23 Dly: 201 Increases Critical Hit Damage
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No, it's not.
 
Kard
Old - DMG 22 Delay 190
New - DMG 25 Delay 190

Venom Kukri +1
Old - DMG 22 Delay 200
New - DMG 25 Delay 200

Hoplites Harpe
Old - DMG 27 Delay 210
New - DMG 32 Delay 210

Harpe
Old - DMG 29 Delay 210
New - DMG 35 Delay 210

Valiant Knife
Old - DMG 21 Delay 195
New - DMG 24 Delay 195

Stun Kukri +1
Old - DMG 24 Delay 206
New - DMG 27 Delay 206

Sirocco Kukri
Old - DMG 21 Delay 150
New - DMG 26 Delay 150

Daylight Dagger
Old - DMG 24 Delay 183
New - DMG 28 Delay 183

Taillefer's Dagger
Old - DMG 23 Delay 187
New - DMG 27 Delay 187

Behemoth Knife +1
Old - DMG 26 Delay 201
New - DMG 32 Delay 201

Thief's Knife
Old - DMG 24 Delay 194
New - DMG 28 Delay 194

Khanjar
Old - DMG 23 Delay 192
New - DMG 27 Delay 192

Misericorde +1
Old - DMG 24 Delay 178
New - DMG 28 Delay 178

Stylet
Old - DMG 24 Delay 195
New - DMG 31 Delay 195

Titan's Baselard
Old - DMG 23 Delay 186
New - DMG 28 Delay 186

Blau Dolch
Old - DMG 22 Latent DMG 28 Delay 178
New - DMG 26 Latent DMG 33 Delay 178

Martial Knife
Old - DMG 23 Delay 186
New - DMG 27 Delay 186

Gully +1
Old - DMG 26 Delay 200
New - DMG 30 Delay 200

X's Knife
Old - DMG 23 Delay 201
New - DMG 34 Delay 201

Mighty Knife
Old - DMG 24 Delay 200
New - DMG 28 Delay 200

Heart Snatcher
Old - DMG 11 Latent DMG 24 Delay 205
New - DMG 15 Latent DMG 30 Delay 205

Perseus's Harpe
Old - DMG 31 Delay 210
New - DMG 37 Delay 210

Jambiya +1
Old - DMG 27 Delay 212
New - DMG 34 Delay 194

Thanatos Baselard
Old - DMG 24 Delay 191
New - DMG 28 Delay 191

Mandau
Old - DMG 32 Delay 176
New - DMG 39 Delay 176

OH MAH GAWD that was so hard to look for *eye roll*
 
Main hand Heart snatcher; Off hand Sirocco kukri feels ok now almost.
'.'b
 
Darklion said:
its right on the first page...
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The first page says there are changes made, but no specific numbers.

Now we have numbers, in a page titled 'Daggers.'

Much easier.
 
Mandau
Old - DMG 32 Delay 176
New - DMG 39 Delay 176







LOL
 
That's some serious BS... "Lets nerf their TP gain, then fuck their DPS up high enough to beat every oter job!"
Can they make up their mind? And does anyone know if Assassin's Charge stacks with SATA yet?
 
The highest non-relic dagger isn't even until page 3 of the DPS list.
 
dedalius said:
The highest non-relic dagger isn't even until page 3 of the DPS list.
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Thief were never meant to be high in DPS anyhow. They are for hate transfer. If you want DD you should invite a War, Drk, or other REAL DD JOB.
I suppose this is to counter the fact Thf is crap 60+ in most people's eyes for exp.

Still, Charge, it stack or no?
 
All depends on gear Windy...
Can't put all the thfs over one edge...
 
Windy said:
"Lets nerf their TP gain, then fuck their DPS up high enough to beat every oter job!"
Can they make up their mind? And does anyone know if Assassin's Charge stacks with SATA yet?
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Windy, it was a direct reference to this. They're not going to ZOMG out DD everyone. They're still low on the DPS scale.
 
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