DATAMINING THREAD JUNE 9TH UPDATE

[Illyria]

Lol San... I read that and was asking myself... I know he has to have Zenith Mitts... then you caught yourself...

 

[Psylentcuda]

Dorje


DMG:42 Delay:402 MP+20 "Magic Atk. Bonus"+25 MP recovered while healing +10
Lv. 75 RDM/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH


After a few math, you won't get impressed by MAB +25. Here is how it works.

Assume Full morrigan+BLM, Novio, moldavite, merits 5/5, sorcerer, Uggalepih, I count MAB +87 so the damage multiplier is :

1.15x1.87=2.1505 with an HQ-staff
1+(87+25)/100=2.12 with this new Staff

Assume average BLM gear, Novio, moldavite, merits 5/5, sorcerer, Uggalepih; i count MAB+85

1.15x1.85=2.1275 with an HQ-staff
1+(85+25)/100=2.10 with this new staff


Assume average BLM gear, moldavite, no novio, ugga, sorcerer, i count MAB+78

1.15x1.78=2.047 with HQ staff
1+(76+25)/100=2.03 with the new staff


Assume average BLM gear, moldavite , no ugga, no novio, no sorcerer, I count mab+60

1.15x1.60=1.84 with HQ-staff
1+(58+25)/100=1.85 with the new staff

Assume Your BLM has crap gear, no weskit, no Z mitts, no moldavite, no yigit blabla. Your are gimped but maybe you don't care about BLM. This staff is for You! Invotory -8 ftw. MAB+32 only from trait.

1.15x1.32=1.518 with an HQ staff
1+(32+25)/100=1.57 with the new staff



Okay so this Dorje is all the better that your gear sucks. It's not better than an HQ staff in most realistic cases. It's safe to say it sucks.

GOGO NUKE RDM!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pchan you forgot to add in merits for potency. Since most potency merits are distributed 5/5 lightning and ice you math may be off.

Situation 1:
2.244 vs. 2.226

Situation 2:
2.220 vs. 2.205

Situation 3:
2.136 vs. 2.132

Situation 4:
1.920 vs. 1.943

Situation 5:
1.584 vs. 1.6485

 

[Auron X]

(More from BG)This isn't really DATAMINING anymore but found some info on the new things. Seems SE found a way to bring soultrappers into it...

So basically:

1) Speak to Sanraku and then Ryo
2) Get a soultrapper and plates and take a picture of whatever monster she tells you to (she told me to take a picture of Khim, lol). I'm not sure how often the desired mob changes, or if it's different for each person, or what.
3) Take a picture of the monster and bring it to Ryo, she'll tell you if it's a 'good shot' that's well framed etc and estimate it's worth.
4) Give the picture to Sanraku, and assuming he likes it, get an offer to fight the corresponding mob type NM (needs confirmation of course, locations for mobs unknown atm.)

 

[mdkuser]

As far as I understand... 1 MAB is roughly 1% dmg cap increase. So yea, not sure what that person is talking about.

Also... +34 in MAB is pretty hefty.

On my BLM, which was relatively well geared I had:
Genie Weskit: +7
Moldy: +5
Yigit Feet: +2
Sorc Ring: +10
Ugg Pend: +8
Total: +24/+32 with Ugg

Even with Novio, which is the only real MAB upgrade I could have made... thats +31 fulltime(assuming Sorc) and +39 with Ugg Latent.

That post is pretty off as far as Im concerned.

You'r forgetting hands.

I've been checking the magic dmg calculation formula on the wiki. Ok, so the staff is not +15MAB but +15% dmg, my bad, but calculation says that if you wear less than +34.66 MAB ( no counting staff), then the new MAB staff is better. Let's see:

Morrigan cuffs/A hands: MAB+5/+6
Morrigan body/ weskit: +5/+6/+7
Moldavite:+5
yiggit feet: +2
sorcerer ring: +10

so +27/+30 with HQs.

If you are pimp like pimpchan, you have full morrigan set so...

+30MAB as well.

Interresting.

So basically, the new wtaff will be better even for a NQ BLM, if you don't use Ug.pendant, but it becomes worse if you use Ugg. pendant. Am i doing wrong maths?

 

[Raesvelg]

Ouch... So basically, we're gonna see people search whoring every NM in the book and having an extra 150+ people snapping shots at every major kill?

Lagtastic.

 

[Tyrath]

They just had to bring pankration into this...

 

[Auron X]

Ouch... So basically, we're gonna see people search whoring every NM in the book and having an extra 150+ people snapping shots at every major kill?

Lagtastic.

Actually it seems to just be many random mobs, someone else was asked to just get a picture of a Qutrub.

 

[Jeska]

(More from BG)This isn't really DATAMINING anymore but found some info on the new things. Seems SE found a way to bring soultrappers into it...

Neat a chance to practice my artistic skills in photography, this is an Imaginative way to do things.

 

[mdkuser]

You'r forgetting hands.

I've been checking the magic dmg calculation formula on the wiki. Ok, so the staff is not +15MAB but +15% dmg, my bad, but calculation says that if you wear less than +34.66 MAB ( no counting staff), then the new MAB staff is better. Let's see:

Morrigan cuffs/A hands: MAB+5/+6
Morrigan body/ weskit: +5/+6/+7
Moldavite:+5
yiggit feet: +2
sorcerer ring: +10

so +27/+30 with HQs.

If you are pimp like pimpchan, you have full morrigan set so...

+30MAB as well.

Interresting.

So basically, the new wtaff will be better even for a NQ BLM, if you don't use Ug.pendant, but it becomes worse if you use Ugg. pendant. Am i doing wrong maths?

and lol me, i forget the MB merits, which are +10. So yea HQ staves are better even for my non full morrigan BLM!

 

[jamal]

Sig updated thanks to Auronx lol

 

[Auron X]

Sig updated thanks to Auronx lol

I'm actually an idiot because I will need to get a full set of H.Q. staves now that I will be leveling BLM lol. Should of waited for a price drop.

 

[Sanoske]

and lol me, i forget the MB merits, which are +10. So yea HQ staves are better even for my non full morrigan BLM!

This is all pretty funny to me.

The only people who likely will be able to get the Staff won't want it, and then people who think it's better(and whos gear is so shitty that it will be) wont be able to get it. Win? I think so.

 

[Euphacent]

What did they change the torque and empress hairpin icons to?

 

[pchan]

This staff will increase your damage as BLM only if the MAB from your gear is less or equal to 34.

This staff will increase your damage as rdm (or sch/blm) only if your MAB from your gear is less or equal than 42.

This staff will increase your damage as SCH/RDM only if your MAB from your gear is less or equal than 46.

Ok I found a use to Dorje. It's for rdm and sch nuking. But you lose accuracy so it's meh. The other staff seem a lot more appealing :

Alkalurops
DMG:49 Delay:366 HP-10 INT+10 MND+10 CHR+10 Magic Accuracy+20
Lv. 73 RDM/WHM/BLM/BRD/SMN/SCH

Probably better accuracy than HQ staves on any spells including nukes. Why ? Because the INT and MND add to the 20 mac. Also definitely better than HQ staff since you add MND10/INT10 for "potency" of spells like slow and paralyze.

 

[pchan]

GOGO NUKE RDM!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pchan you forgot to add in merits for potency. Since most potency merits are distributed 5/5 lightning and ice you math may be off.

Situation 1:
2.244 vs. 2.226

Situation 2:
2.220 vs. 2.205

Situation 3:
2.136 vs. 2.132

Situation 4:
1.920 vs. 1.943

Situation 5:
1.584 vs. 1.6485

I counted 10 mab from merit. Situtaion I is :

trait : 32
full morrigan set : 15
uggalepih+sorcerer :18
moldavite+novio : 12
merit :10
=87

 

[Sanoske]

Is it just me, or do I see a lot of gear useable by RNG, that is ridiculous to give them? Like the body piece with STR, Att and Enhance Zanshin. Wtf?

 

[mdkuser]

Anyway I also saw a few + elemental and + enfeebling and + HMP gear for BLM so its not all that bad. +enffeble gloves that work everywhere unlike windy mitts ( just sea /dyna basically), and +4 elemental skill feet if you dont have limbus feet.

I'll need to get a completly new hMP gear cause now full yiggit is far from the best.

 

[Raesvelg]

Is it just me, or do I see a lot of gear useable by RNG, that is ridiculous to give them? Like the body piece with STR, Att and Enhance Zanshin. Wtf?

Nothing is as ridiculous as the reported job list for the

Avalon Breastplate
DEF:52 VIT+7 MND+7 CHR+7 Accuracy+13 Enmity+3 Magic damage taken -5%
Lv. 71 MNK/THF/PLD/BST/BRD/RNG/SAM/PUP/DNC

 

[Mishaela]

*edit* Yeah, thought so >_> post is formatted badly so crap looked way off in terms of what should read as what.
Nyzul weapons look meh.

 

[Skaw]

Epic fail in regards to Nyzul weapon requiring items from Einherjar participation.

Hey guys, let's make something that requires 5 other people to get, and turn it in to requiring 17 others to complete!