The same way we did ? That is laughable considering how was defiled this world. I posted their illustrations and explained what they mean.
"How was defiled" isn't English. I have no idea what you are trying to say. Please consult a grammar dictionary, and try again. No, seriously, I have no clue what you are saying here.
Another thing that amazes astronomers today is that the ancients did track planets that need a telescope to be seen. i posted an illustration that depicts 12 planets in the solar system.
Um... they did not track planets requiring a telescope to see.
Mayan astronomy consisted of a number of tracked astrological cycles, among them the sun, the moon, venus, the milky way, and a number of constellations such as Orion. Look up scans of the Dresden, Madrid, Paris and Grolier codices to see what I'm talking about.
The illustration you posted is simply incorrect.
Oh really. When we had a Time Shift in the 90's The Mesoamerican calendar predicted it, and we did not foresee it till late. This is what cause the uproar for the Y2k because computer calendars did not implement this time shift, it wasn't so much of a big deal as in most cases we can just adjust the time and date on the computer as we please. Mesoamerican calendar is still kicking and very accurately.
There is no such thing as a time shift. Y2K was simply the result of programmers being lazy and not including a 4 digit placeholder for the year. There was no uproar over Y2K because people either patched their computers or the year simply turned over to "00" instead of "2000." I would like to see one example of somone who uses the Mesoamerican calendar on a daily basis.
Going by science.
Today we have a population of 6.6 Billion people.
in 1900 we had 1.6 million
in 1800 we had 900,000
in 1000 we had 300,000
in 1 we had 200,000
in 1000 BC there was a population of 50,000
Again this is sciences estimates, if it's changed let me know.
Again, you are wrong. Please post the source of this information, because it is extremely inaccurate.
My source is the following:
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldhis.html
1800 - 791 million
1900 - 1.7 billion
1999 - almost 6 billion
Furthermore:
http://home-1.tiscali.nl/~mvb/world/whist2.htm
0 - 300 million
1500 - 500 million
Bottom line, ancient civilizations of any size had *plenty* of manpower to get the job done. They didn't have any kind of magical vodoo power that let them build their temples. Archaeological evidence has shown that they used rollers in the form of tree trunks to allow laborers to pull the blocks along the ground. 3-to-1 or 4-to-1 mechanical advantage pullies were used to hoist the blocks into place.
Now We're talking about 4,500 BC pyramids. If there were hundreds of thousands of workers as you suggested, then there had to have been a cleansing/new beginning between then and now. Most likely Noah's flood.
Most cultures have an oral story of a flood type event, which could have very well happened at the end of the last major ice age. However, this would have happened long before the era of the pyramids, Egyptian or Mesoamerican.
Not sure what you mean by planetary collision. But any civilization that knows the planetary cycles would know they they will line up and effect one another.
Not when they are in a static system. Once balance is achieved, not much can upset that balance.
If you claim to follow the Old testament and only that, then you should believe in Noah's Ark. Why support or follow something that contains stories you find difficult to believe ?
I believe that much of it is allegory, and it is a way of explaining the world to a stone age people who couldn't understand the truth. The story of a flood, like I said before, exists in many cultures, and I believe that there was a time when waters rose, and many cultures across the world survived on boats long enough to reach higher ground. I don't believe the planet was covered with water, but that sea levels rose from what once was a much lower level (due to large polar ice caps) to the current level we see today.
The Bible (English version) was translated in the medieval times, which is why it has an old English accent, it's well written, and probably been tampered with over time, but mistaking an entire concept of a story would be going too far. If you think Human error can screw that up, then why do/would you follow the Old Testament ?
I follow the values that the Old Testament teaches. Choosing right over wrong comes through regardless of if you believe there was actually a Garden of Eden or not.
Ah yes. Like people would take you for an idiot if you believed in the best stories of your Old Testament. Am i right ?
Again, values vs. stories. The point is to understand why the story is being told, not the story in and of itself. People don't take me for an idiot, because I recognize what is important without being a word-for-word fundamentalist.
You're not everyone. There are people who are criticizing me for off topic reasons here. In the list you are one of the few who take me for an idiot. So when i list people who found it trendy to critique me, don't come to me and say "we" can i never included you to begin with. I know you're not striking me because you think it's trendy. I know you're not.
You're right there, I'm criticizing you because I genuinely think you're being an idiot.
I posted plenty of evidence, "and i even stated how we can be wrong about many things", then i posted reasons + evidence as to why i said that. Show me where i said my belief is fact. Please do. And show me or you can even explain what poor evidence have i posted.
Re-read your very first post.
I said it and I'll say again. Science and religion both say these things are going to happen, this is nothing to take for granted. I admit, at one point i do recall stating something along the lines of "When Nibiru comes near, it's no laughing matter". Unfortunately i had to deal with 3 crybabies over it, one being yourself.
Science does not say the world is going to end at that particular date. One religion (one which is long dead) says it might. Again, you use broad generalities which are on the whole, not true.
He had a change in belief of you. Perhaps he'll still treat you better than he treats Uncle Charles.
Um... what?
I ignore proof From who ? and What Proof are you talking about ? Again, don't tell me what i do, quote me on it. And show me where i ignore others. Can you do that please.
Re-read your responses to both myself and Uzor around pages 6-8.
I accept what everyone here says, even you Alyada and Hal. And how can you start saying i only look for evidence and not post it. Seriously how ?
Because if you honestly made a study of what we know about the universe, and how planets orbit, and what we know of Mayan culture, you would see a bit of information that supports what you say, and MOUNTAINS of information that supports what I'm saying. For you to say that you've researched this makes me believe that you've pointedly ignored everything that doesn't fit your established viewpoint. It's called selective attention.
I posted the most content in this thread. And Uzor for one has so much depth, why can't you be like him ? All you bring is talk which is ok, but knock it off with ignoring what i post. You're too focused on fighting.
I do see what you post, and in every response, I've layed down reasons why it's either untrue or exaggerated. I think your selective attention has just made you pass over every piece of evidence I've laid at your feet.
