Definition of...

[ThisIsHamburgler]

I was just wondering what everyones definition of a "gimp" is in the context of FFXI? I think this might be a very interesting discussion... or not.

-Ham :shock:

 

[NeogearzX]

i am widly belived to be a gimp lol

 

[mastershake]

{hmmmm}

Well My self is actualy gimp also by having 1 hand^^

 

[Direwolf]

Personaly my defineition of gimp, the biggies at least, is as follows:

1)underlvled subjob/inapropriate subjob
2)Missing a glaringly obviuse piece of gear.
3)Having a piece of useless gear.
4)Not eating or using important Job abilities.
5)Unable to SC or magic burst.
6)For mages not having every concevable spell needed in a battle. (Yes that means erase)
7)If you have MP post 51, lacking Dark Staff.
8)Lacking the aproptiate staves for your job (IE WHM should have light Staff).
9)Lacking +20 Accuracy, or more by lvl 60.
10)Saying, I do not need to buy armor I am going to get AF.
11)Using AF when their are better choices.

I think I cover most of the glaring basics.

 

[Firestreak]

I believe 1-5 in that list makes you a gimp, but the others don't make you a gimp persay. Simply not falling under those makes you pretty good.

 

[Sethala]

For me, a gimp is:

-Someone with an underleveled/bad subjob
-Someone not using food
-Someone lacking the major spells for their job
-Someone that can't go along with the group strategy
-Someone that makes bad choices for gear

Of course, there are exceptions. If somoene went from 30-32 and only had a level 15 sub because they didn't think they'd hit 32 today, that's understandable. If a party's going to disband in under half an hour, it's understandable to not use food, especially if it's expensive. The last two are inexcusable, though, and the third one is only understandable if the person just leveled and didn't have the scroll with them.

Now, this doesn't mean I think someone without dual sniper's, emp. hairpin, all 8 staves, etc is gimp. However, if they're using the wrong -type- of gear (such as using a bad weapon for their job, or wearing tank gear when you're supposed to be DD, etc), there's a problem.

 

[NeogearzX]

Re: {hmmmm}

Well My self is actualy gimp also by having 1 hand^^

you have only one hand in real life? :O

 

[NeogearzX]

that +20 acc....

you have to be a millionair these days to afford that man.. not having 3-4mil worth of equipment makes you a gimp now? ;o

thats like telling a whm they are a gimp if they dont have a nobles tunic or v. cloak

 

[Mishaela]

My view of a gimp is based on someone's job level/combination, equipment, spells or skill level, or lack thereof of the previously said, is bad to the degree that it noticeably hinders the party. Anything less than that I don't see as gimped. Obnoxious, stupid, weird, maybe. But I really could care less if that level 50PLD is using a Windurstian Ring and a Great Axe or something - if he does his job well and it doesn't seem to slow down the party or cause more for the others, is he still gimped? To me at least, no.

 

[NeogearzX]

then again i have no room to talk, my rdm went lvl 1 to 74 with out a mage subjob ;o

 

[mastershake]

Re: {hmmmm}

Well My self is actualy gimp also by having 1 hand^^

you have only one hand in real life? :O

yup^^ look me up on ffxiplayers.com

 

[Sneakypants]

Many of the points made in the lists are valid. I'd also like to say a gimp is someone who cannot or will not adjust to the needs of the party, even when specific requests have been made.

 

[Aristarc]

/points up

wht she said^^

 

[Direwolf]

that +20 acc....

you have to be a millionair these days to afford that man.. not having 3-4mil worth of equipment makes you a gimp now? ;o

Life belt is +10 Acc right there. That is 70k... 2 Sniper rings at 60? Yea I am going to say those are mandatory at that point otherwise you will be sir whiff alot. If you can not raise 1 million gil for 2 of the most important rings in the game... Well I am sorry you are gimp.

 

[Tyrath]

that +20 acc....

you have to be a millionair these days to afford that man.. not having 3-4mil worth of equipment makes you a gimp now? ;o

thats like telling a whm they are a gimp if they dont have a nobles tunic or v. cloak

i have +45 acc with a lil more than 3 mil worth of gear...+20 isnt that bad...lol. not too much more than 500k. if you dont have that much in gear, yeah ur gimp. and snipers by 60 should also be had by everyone

 

[Sabia]

and snipers by 60 should also be had by everyone

Does this mean I have to give up my Astral/Electrum combo? :wink:

 

[Tyrath]

and snipers by 60 should also be had by everyone

Does this mean I have to give up my Astral/Electrum combo? :wink:

>.>

change everyone to every melee

<,<

 

[Sethala]

Personaly my defineition of gimp, the biggies at least, is as follows:

9)Lacking +20 Accuracy, or more by lvl 60.

I really doubt that I'll have +20 Accuracy in gear when I hit level 60 WHM...

Anyway, +20 accuracy isn't that hard to get...

Life belt is +10, and it's under 100k. Royal Guard's collar is another +4. RK Mufflers add another 3 accuracy if I remember right. That's 17 right there. One venerer's ring and boom, you hit the 20 accuracy mark. All for probably around 400k-500k.

All the jobs that need the accuracy can wear the belt, ring, and I think the collar. Not all melee jobs can wear the RK mufflers, but I think there are some other +Accuracy gloves they can get. And I think all melee jobs can wear an assault earring, which gives +2 accuracy (although it's a little pricey).

 

[Mishaela]

I have like..+3 acc!
/em hugs Battle Staff =P

 

[NeogearzX]

oh damn lol i forgot about the belt i was just thinking about the rings and body armor lol :X