Derail from Darth thread: Meta/Evidence

metachronism said:
What saddens me the most is that the very first assumption most people here make is that the accusation is false. Most of you hate me, (and rest assured, the feeling is mutual), but you'd actually go so far as to ignore, or even condone RMT just to make that statement. Of course, such lack of maturity is exactly what I disdain of a rather long list of people who live on this board.
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Yes, because doubting you = supporting RMT. That makes logical sense. And no one's even said you're lying. Feel free to quote that anywhere. This whole topic now is a lesson on how to properly post on the flameboard without looking like a douche, something that you seem to have a lot of trouble doing. If you want to flame someone, put some thought and effort into it, don't just toss up two sentences and expect a board that 90% hates you to nod and agree that you're right.

BTW Meeze, my topic title in the Vang flame was a Vang quote, which is what I was referring to. Not the whole "don't care" thing it became.
 
metachronism said:
What saddens me the most is that the very first assumption most people here make is that the accusation is false. Most of you hate me, (and rest assured, the feeling is mutual), but you'd actually go so far as to ignore, or even condone RMT just to make that statement. Of course, such lack of maturity is exactly what I disdain of a rather long list of people who live on this board.
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already expected it, but still saddened? X;
 
Mishaela said:
Couldn't Darth screenshotting his Auto-Translated items (at least, the part where the Belt'd be) work as a means of showing he at least does/doesn't own a belt?
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Put it in storage/mog locker, logout, login, open your inv/mh only, go to Auto-Translate list. It won't be there but a very convincing list of your gear will be.
 
Mishaela said:
Couldn't Darth screenshotting his Auto-Translated items (at least, the part where the Belt'd be) work as a means of showing he at least does/doesn't own a belt? If he doesn't even own one then this thread's totally invalid, but he does...probably an entirely different story. And yeah, not everyone can even make screenshots either, just saying this could be a potential way of showing he might not even own one.

It's a pretty heavy accusation and there's not any way good evidence (except in that one SS he is acting a bit weird in his talking, but meh)...all the same I don't think I've ever known meta to just throw such a huge accusation out of nowhere without a good reason, but then, what do I know.
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as far as i understand it, and i could be completely wrong, your auto-translated items are limited to your current inventory when you log on, after checking your mog house and locker and storage or whatnot, those get added to the list which caps at 200. items said in chat also get added to the list.

So if im correct, then you would also have to verify that he checked all his storage options also
 
metachronism said:
What saddens me the most is that the very first assumption most people here make is that the accusation is false.
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And why shouldn't we? You've made it clear that your opinion of us isnt that high, and that you believe we're mostly idiots anyways. It isn't so hard a jump to think you just MIGHT be trying to use our "stupidity" and such to try and get back at this person who, for all we know, simply beat you to the claim earlier and got the drop.

This is how one could possibly read your first post.

metachronism said:
Trust me guys, he bought it. I'm obviously so much smarter than you idiots because you post in this crappy fourms that i hate. Dont ask why I'm posting here, you're too dumb to understand. Just chew on this information I have provided with no backing and destroy the e-rep of this person whom I dont like.
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Going on what you've said before in previous threads and so forth, one could easily read the above in your OP.

So don't try and play all hurt that we didn't instantly believe what you said, as if your word was the final word in all things. You've burned your bridges here, so you now need to work for every step.
 
So you think of Chinis in that fashion as well? What'd he ever do to you?

Edit: Because he posted here without any evidence as well. Does that mean we shouldn't believe him too?
 
Dood, I was talkin to Mara^^;
 
Dowzer said:
Dood, I was talkin to Mara^^;
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Was refering to his OP, which he was so saddened didn't convince everyone instantly. And all of the "proof" has come from someone who isn't meta anyways.
 
Dowzer said:
Dood, I was talkin to Mara^^;
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Oh, I'm sleepy and trying to do three things at once, lol. But yeah, it's funny that the OP really has no credibility and I only believe it after hearing about it from other people who know how to speak coherently without flipping through their thesauruses to find important sounding words.
 
I guess you guys had your problems in the past, considering how you call him a troll. I had no problem believing him from the start, but only because not many people make huge accusations like that.

Edit: I don't know Meta personally or anything about trolling people, that's probably why I believed him too.
 
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Reading material when you're bored:

http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=39361
http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=37670

I'd find more but I'm tired and really I think you'll get the idea after these two. I can't remember the topic titles but there are at least 2 on the General Discussion board that were perfectly normally discussion threads where he started flaming the shit out of everyone for no reason (on the GD board).

Edit, nvm here's one, lol

http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=35854
 
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Quotes which imply I'm just making it up?

Rappa said:
So you ss something trivial like this but nada of the actual incident whatsoever? Way to go, Matlock.

Again idc really one way or the other about this, it's just that when you make a topic with a huge allegation like this you usually post some proof so people take you seriously. Common sense, etc.
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Are you suggesting that demanding logistically impossible things as "evidence" or to face the charge of making the whole thing up doesn't amount to calling people a liar?

People can attest to the fact that RMT got the claim and Darth didn't even touch the mob. It would be kind of weird for me to be making a thread about Darth if you are to assume that I'm making the accusation out of anger that I lost the claim, now wouldn't it?

Hate me freely, but I'd suggest not letting it get in the way of rationality--for those who have any.
 
metachronism said:
Are you suggesting that demanding logistically impossible things as "evidence" or to face the charge of making the whole thing up doesn't amount to calling people a liar?
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metachronism said:
Let's see. I see this Darth guy at KA spawn unpartied, ostensibly. RMT kills KA, starts shouting to sell the belt--after 1 minute or so, one walks over to Darth, starts bowing to him, and Darth goes home.
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Explain to me how a SS of this bowing is logistically impossible and I'll send you 100k gil in your delivery box. You obviously saw it happen, why didn't you screenshot it? Logistically quit bitching and learn how to logistically post a fucking flame.
 
I think meeze has dissected it to the level that even morons can understand that the screenshots that a rational person would consider material evidence is impossible? And no, a log of RMT bowing is not one of them--as mentioned by someone--I think Rufus--about some people randomgly exchanging emotes with RMT. You, and others alike, would just consider it insubstantial.

Are you going to tell me that a log of a bow is going to change people's minds? If I post a screenshot of that, will I suddenly become credible? Look what happened with the /t screenshots. I'm pretty sure the same will happen there.

You're just trying to troll. And the like-minded people here will just build a consensus again so that I "become" the troll instead. I mean, you guys don't even care about the whole RMT thing anymore, do you?
 
Don't know if ls members took screenshots, but I didn't. He was there solo in zone, RMT claim and kill, then he's in party, and walks out with a brand new VBelt he wasn't wearing before. And no I don't have anything against him, never even talked to this guy, just seen him around with his old man's cap. Saddening, I thought he looked pretty cool in hat but now i just see a pile of RMT shit when I see him.
 
metachronism said:
I think meeze has dissected it to the level that even morons can understand that the screenshots that a rational person would consider material evidence is impossible? And no, a log of RMT bowing is not one of them--as mentioned by someone--I think Rufus--about some people randomgly exchanging emotes with RMT. You, and others alike, would just consider it insubstantial.

Are you going to tell me that a log of a bow is going to change people's minds? If I post a screenshot of that, will I suddenly become credible? Look what happened with the /t screenshots. I'm pretty sure the same will happen there.

You're just trying to troll. And the like-minded people here will just build a consensus again so that I "become" the troll instead. I mean, you guys don't even care about the whole RMT thing anymore, do you?
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But heres the magical thing. You have none of this. You dont even have what you'd call worthless. You have zero things. Zero things, Zero crates!

You really should stop now while you're not behind. Be thankfull chinis came and stole your show.
 
Eh, you aren't worth replying to anymore. I'll just ask Chinis and others about this in the morning when I'm not tired and find out what really happened since you're worthless. Maybe if you're a good boy I'll come save your topic by getting someone to post some real proof or even doing it myself. In the meantime I'd highly suggest that the next time you want to flame someone that you actually put some effort into it instead of just posting two lines and acting like they are the Eleventh and Twelfth Commandments. Quit relying on everyone else to do your shit for you, ie Chinis, Meeze, and other contributors to this topic.
 
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Rappa said:
Explain to me how a SS of this bowing is logistically impossible and I'll send you 100k gil in your delivery box. You obviously saw it happen, why didn't you screenshot it? Logistically quit bitching and learn how to logistically post a fucking flame.
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a SS of RMT bowing to him is NOT EVIDENCE. Once again, you said yourself it wasn't, so what does it matter if he has a picture of it or not?
 
meeze said:
a SS of RMT bowing to him is NOT EVIDENCE. Once again, you said yourself it wasn't, so what does it matter if he has a picture of it or not?
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Honestly? If he'd had that I might have been inclined to investigate myself. Especialy if he'd had the pic of him wearing the belt afterwards, since Chinis claims he was wearing it immediatly after.
 
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