Drk Af (gear discussion)

[Helius]

Congratz on the rest of the AF


Btw, Bone Scythe +1 > Vassagos unless you are dying for that 5 accuracy.

I put out more damage with Vassagos though. I parsed in a party with the difference. Plus doing campaign.

Also, I put out more damage with AF then I do with Haubergeon and the 2 ACC+ Frouth Division pieces. Could it be the dark element added to me that increases damage?

 

[Tyrath]

Well thats probably you needing the extra acc then ;P Because Bone Scyte+1 has better DPS.

Dark element has nothing to do with damage. I really doubt you consistently would do more damage in AF than hauby. Either flukes or you mess up parsing ;P

 

[Tristam Green]

I use my AF situationally now.

Body only: Casting Enfeebles
Body+Legs: tanking when duoing with my wife
Hands: Weapon Bash Macro
Feet: never. Pieces of shit, and I don't use Arcane Circle enough to warrant their use.

And, if I had a Voyager Sallet or Patroclus's Helm, I'd be using the AF head only for WS's.


Otherwise, I've always done more damage with my Sipahi Jawshan (I don't own a Haubergeon, but do have a Hauberk waiting for me @ 69) than I ever will in the AF pieces.

And darkness elements just mean you have an additional resistance to that type of magic.

 

[Jeska]

Btw, Bone Scythe +1 > Vassagos unless you are dying for that 5 accuracy.

I used Vassago's for 10 levels it was my fav weapon and took alot to finally convince me to hang it up. When you're Drk acc >> anything lol

 

[Tristam Green]

I used Vassago's for 10 levels it was my fav weapon and took alot to finally convince me to hang it up. When you're Drk acc >> anything lol

Life Belt < Potent Belt. Case and point.

 

[Helius]

Here is my current gear set up.

Head: Walkure Mask - DEF:15 ~ HP+15 ~ Attack+6
Body: Haubergeon - DEF:45 ~ STR+5 ~ DEX+5 ~ AGI-5 ~ Accuracy+10 ~ Attack +10 ~ Evasion-20
Hands: Fourth Division Gauntlets - DEF:13 ~ HP+10 ~ Accuracy+5
Legs: Chaos flanchard - DEF:31 ~ HP+15 ~ INT+3 ~ Evasion+5 ~ Parrying Skill+10
Feet: Fourth Division sabatons - DEF:11 ~ HP+10 ~ Accuracy+2 ~ Ranged Accuracy+2

Rings: 2x Woodsman - Accuracy+5 ~ Ranged Accuracy+5 ~ Evasion-5
Earrings: 2x Spike earring - Attack+5 ~ Evasion-5

Neck: Royal Guard's collar - DEF:6 ~ Accuracy+4 ~ Attack+4

Back: Nomad's mantle (Soon to be upgraded)- DEF:2 ~ AGI+1 ~ Evasion+3

Waist: Life belt - Accuracy+10

Main: Vassago's Scythe - DMG:84 Delay:528 ~ HP-5% ~ Accuracy+5
Sub: Brass grip +1 - DEX+2

Ranged: Lightning bow +1 - DEX+3 ~ Ranged Accuracy+3

Totals: STR+5 ~ DEX+10 ~ AGI-4 ~ INT+3 ~ Accuracy+52 ~ Ranged Accuracy+14(?) ~ Evasion-32(?)

~

So with that, is that overall decent?

I know the pants can be upgraded, so can the grip and neck. Though the neck isn't that probable for me right now, not much of anything is really.

 

[Tristam Green]

Quest whore a little for a Jaguar Mantle. You can use it until you get an Amemet.

Otherwise, it looks good. I used Sipahi Dastanas, but the 4th Div. stuff wasn't available when I was that level.

 

[etchdog2000]

Here is my current gear set up.

Head: Walkure Mask - DEF:15 ~ HP+15 ~ Attack+6
Body: Haubergeon - DEF:45 ~ STR+5 ~ DEX+5 ~ AGI-5 ~ Accuracy+10 ~ Attack +10 ~ Evasion-20
Hands: Fourth Division Gauntlets - DEF:13 ~ HP+10 ~ Accuracy+5
Legs: Chaos flanchard - DEF:31 ~ HP+15 ~ INT+3 ~ Evasion+5 ~ Parrying Skill+10
Feet: Fourth Division sabatons - DEF:11 ~ HP+10 ~ Accuracy+2 ~ Ranged Accuracy+2

Rings: 2x Woodsman - Accuracy+5 ~ Ranged Accuracy+5 ~ Evasion-5
Earrings: 2x Spike earring - Attack+5 ~ Evasion-5

Neck: Royal Guard's collar - DEF:6 ~ Accuracy+4 ~ Attack+4

Back: Nomad's mantle (Soon to be upgraded)- DEF:2 ~ AGI+1 ~ Evasion+3

Waist: Life belt - Accuracy+10

Main: Vassago's Scythe - DMG:84 Delay:528 ~ HP-5% ~ Accuracy+5
Sub: Brass grip +1 - DEX+2

Ranged: Lightning bow +1 - DEX+3 ~ Ranged Accuracy+3

Totals: STR+5 ~ DEX+10 ~ AGI-4 ~ INT+3 ~ Accuracy+52 ~ Ranged Accuracy+14(?) ~ Evasion-32(?)

~

So with that, is that overall decent?

I know the pants can be upgraded, so can the grip and neck. Though the neck isn't that probable for me right now, not much of anything is really.

One relatively cheap upgrade you can do is Royal Knight's Breeches. They will pretty much last you until you get Black Cuisses.

 

[Tristam Green]

Etch: I'm considering upgrading to the significantly cheaper Exorcist's Hose instead of Black Cuisses. Any opinions?

 

[Tyrath]

I used Vassago's for 10 levels it was my fav weapon and took alot to finally convince me to hang it up. When you're Drk acc >> anything lol

Not when you end up using sushi in parties and have over 35 accuracy from other gears. There comes a point when you have too much accuracy, I reached that point when I leveled Dark Knight this time.

 

[etchdog2000]

Etch: I'm considering upgrading to the significantly cheaper Exorcist's Hose instead of Black Cuisses. Any opinions?

STR+3 Accuracy+3 vs. STR+2 DEX+2 Attack+3 vs. Accuracy+2 Attack+5

I think the decision is yours. Thick, Exo, Ryl Kgts are all very close.

Personally it was an easy choice for me when I lvled through those lvls some 2.5-3 years ago. I went TP in thick and WS in ryl kgts. Exo hose didnt exist back then.

With the 2handed update Ryl Kgts is pretty much the same as Thick for TP, but Ryl Kgts clearly is the winner in WS. If I were you and I could not afford Black Cuisses I would probably go TP in Ryl Kgts and WS in Exo.

I would suggest Black Cuisses being the first "expensive" piece you buy after you nail down your standard set because it really is a great piece for the price it is. I think its down to 500k.

 

[Lecreuset]

Everyone else said mostly what I might've, except they're not Elvaan.

You're Elvaan, if you're eating sushi (which I hope you started, or even some type of food period) you can go out on your RSE day and hunt a little ??? to fight a crawler for a 30% chance at an Olibanum Satchet drop, which is +2STR if you're not pulling with that lightning bow, or in dire need of that DEX in that slot.

Also, I think it's Mythril Grip +1 you can get @ lv 55 for STR+2 VIT+2 Acc +2.

Unless you're subbing THF using DEX gear for your SATAWS, or really hurting for that DEX=Acc, I think this is a relatively cheap upgrade.

Also, since I'm a rather new 2-handed melee (SAM53 is my highest) do WS modifiers take precedent over stacking DEX if your SATAWS is your primary purpose of your WS to stick on the tank?

 

[Helius]

Well, I'm not SATAing yet, though I think depending on what's more popular after 60 /THF or /WAR maybe even /SAM~ I'll get the +2% double attack, though +2 ACC is something that I should seriously consider.

I'll also work on getting the +2 STR ranged, instead of the 80k +1 accuracy P.o.S.

 

[Tristam Green]

Well, I'm not SATAing yet, though I think depending on what's more popular after 60 /THF or /WAR maybe even /SAM~ I'll get the +2% double attack, though +2 ACC is something that I should seriously consider.

I'll also work on getting the +2 STR ranged, instead of the 80k +1 accuracy P.o.S.

Tiphia Sting? F that. Save your gil another 10k and get a Bomb Core. However, the Olibanum Sachet is a good piece for Elvaans. I wish Tarutaru had it, but then again, I don't have to buy a Phantom Tathlum ;-)

 

[Lecreuset]

Tiphia Sting? F that. Save your gil another 10k and get a Bomb Core. However, the Olibanum Sachet is a good piece for Elvaans. I wish Tarutaru had it, but then again, I don't have to buy a Phantom Tathlum ;-)

Aye, the core isn't bad; but I remember past posts where a budget was a smidge tight.

Olibanum is free aside the fight and time spent, and usually isn't being CC'ed.

It's up every 30 mins or 1h I think in your RSE day.

Just confirm on wiki if it's 30m/1h and keep tabs on where your RSE day is, as long as the ??? location on the map.

 

[Tristam Green]

It is every 30 minutes during RSE week.

However, OP mentioned he was saving for a "shitty +1 Accuracy" item. That smells of Tiphia Sting to me. If he was saving for 80k for that, he should go all the way, save another stack of silk threads, and get a Bomb Core. +12 Attack > +2 STR.

 

[Jeska]

Not when you end up using sushi in parties and have over 35 accuracy from other gears. There comes a point when you have too much accuracy, I reached that point when I leveled Dark Knight this time.

And you'll still curse when you swing and miss something and say, 'Damn need more acc'

You can have all the Str you want, it wont do you a bit of good if you miss thou. Also throughout your 50's you will be fighting food-stealing Colibri's I learned not to rely on food effects too much back then as one good ws could end up with snacks gone...

 

[Jeska]

Also, I think it's Mythril Grip +1 you can get @ lv 55 for STR+2 VIT+2 Acc +2.

The Platinum Grip (offers occasional Stun's and Acc +2 or +3 depending on quality) is a nice addition too, between, weapon bash, Stun and the (5%?)effects of that grip. You can make any mob have a bad day trying to screw with your party. And with Imp's coming up on the horizon soon you wanna be ready for screwing around mobs.

 

[Tristam Green]

You can have all the Str you want, it wont do you a bit of good if you miss thou. Also throughout your 50's you will be fighting food-stealing Colibri's I learned not to rely on food effects too much back then as one good ws could end up with snacks gone...

Not necessarily; I only fought colibris once, and that was after I was 60.

As for loading up on STR versus Acc, I say get a Pole Strap. F a mob's intentions up with a mini-Zanshin

 

[Tyrath]

And you'll still curse when you swing and miss something and say, 'Damn need more acc'

You can have all the Str you want, it wont do you a bit of good if you miss thou. Also throughout your 50's you will be fighting food-stealing Colibri's I learned not to rely on food effects too much back then as one good ws could end up with snacks gone...

You talk as if I'm going to be doing this >.> I already dinged 75 doing what I outlined and I did fine with my BOne Scythe+1.