Eddiemush, you freakin retard! Get a life!

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Veresko said:
AND my point is, just in case Harry Potter here did not get it yet, I don't high level players should not farm in low leveling areas and make it twice as hard for new players or players starting a new job to raise there character. What if a level 70 PLD decides to go to Qufim and kill every snippers and pugils he can find... would'nt that be fun for the parties there!

Idiotic statement. Why would anyone farm Qufim for Rock Salt and Pugil Scales? I zone guard Qufim a bit nowadays, and I don't think any of the lower levels being chased by a Wight or Banshee are too worried about me getting that bone chip or cotton cloth drop. Most leveling spots have mobs that aren't farmable for profit (crabs, mandragoras, worms.)

Also, I farm low level areas because they're normally smaller, have better concentrations of mobs, and respawn quickly. Why should I kill Sabertooths in Batalia when I can go to Jugner and kill the tigers there twice as quickly?
 
And you didnt respond as to why they removed the thing that let people claim the whole train. >.>
How should I know? I don't work for Square.
Taking from a train and warping is completely different.
Your logic says: The game lets me steal from a train, so it is ok.
Application of your logic: The game lets me warp out and mpk people, so it is ok.

Your logic is wrong.
Tyrath said:
 
Rones said:
And you didnt respond as to why they removed the thing that let people claim the whole train. >.>
How should I know? I don't work for Square.
Taking from a train and warping is completely different.
Your logic says: The game lets me steal from a train, so it is ok.
Application of your logic: The game lets me warp out and mpk people, so it is ok.

Your logic is wrong.
Tyrath said:

Point being, maybe they were trying to say, yes it is ok to take from a train.

And last thing I have to say before i can leave this idiotic argument and go play FFXI:

Tyrath said:
While we are on the subject of warping. From what I know(I maybe wrong.) Warping and setting a train on someone would be considered MPK and illegal according to SE. While taking from a train is not. So much for that. :shock:

Goodbye. ^^
 
Its not an mpk if you pulled it yourself. You pull something from a train and wind up getting the whole thing. Whose fault is that?
 
now that is a true blue Flameboard thread good job you guys/gals.

It WAS looking a little hopeless for a moment there but you guys kept it true to the game.

Good to see a healthy flaming every once in a while.

Later!

Mo...
 
Rones said:
Its not an mpk if you pulled it yourself. You pull something from a train and wind up getting the whole thing. Whose fault is that?

Read the first message......

Eddiemush came back one hour after we had first met with a brand new train of gobs and warped right in front of me while I was healing, along with another player, level 6 no sub, that died because of it.

Think it was pretty clear what is intentions were.
 
Rones said:
Its not an mpk if you pulled it yourself. You pull something from a train and wind up getting the whole thing. Whose fault is that?

OK, I lied. I cant resist, this is too much fun. :lol:

As for that. Talking of flawed logics. That would be your fault for warping and letting the person get the whole train. But if you want to do it, go right ahead. It doesnt affect me. I usually dont need to pull from a train while lvling. Can handle any train of what I would be farming ^_~

And this time for reals. I gtg, hehe. Laters. That was fun :D
 
And veresko I think he was talking about his own logic of warping when someone took from his trains.
 
Farming in low lvl zones aint a polite thing to do nor is MPKing, that however fits under harrasment one of the 2 things GMs will act about.

On the flipside stealing from trains is bad but if this dude was making trains on the hill in south gustaberg, that is simmilar to making trains in the dunes by the lizard camp. You do it knowing you are going to be a seere inconvenience to others. If he is a RDM with warp he has to be over 34 and therefor there are FAR better farming spots dropwise.
 
CubsWoo said:
Veresko said:
AND my point is, just in case Harry Potter here did not get it yet, I don't high level players should not farm in low leveling areas and make it twice as hard for new players or players starting a new job to raise there character. What if a level 70 PLD decides to go to Qufim and kill every snippers and pugils he can find... would'nt that be fun for the parties there!

Idiotic statement. Why would anyone farm Qufim for Rock Salt and Pugil Scales? I zone guard Qufim a bit nowadays, and I don't think any of the lower levels being chased by a Wight or Banshee are too worried about me getting that bone chip or cotton cloth drop. Most leveling spots have mobs that aren't farmable for profit (crabs, mandragoras, worms.)

Also, I farm low level areas because they're normally smaller, have better concentrations of mobs, and respawn quickly. Why should I kill Sabertooths in Batalia when I can go to Jugner and kill the tigers there twice as quickly?

Cubs I agree with all of it but South Gustaberg on the hill is a bit difrent in lvling terms then Jugner Forest. Konshat highlands is the best place to farm for them by a wide margin.
 
CubsWoo said:
Veresko said:
AND my point is, just in case Harry Potter here did not get it yet, I don't high level players should not farm in low leveling areas and make it twice as hard for new players or players starting a new job to raise there character. What if a level 70 PLD decides to go to Qufim and kill every snippers and pugils he can find... would'nt that be fun for the parties there!

Idiotic statement. Why would anyone farm Qufim for Rock Salt and Pugil Scales? I zone guard Qufim a bit nowadays, and I don't think any of the lower levels being chased by a Wight or Banshee are too worried about me getting that bone chip or cotton cloth drop. Most leveling spots have mobs that aren't farmable for profit (crabs, mandragoras, worms.)

I was just explaining my point and took the first idea that came in mind! This is not about getting good drops or not. I am trying to say that farming in known leveling areas creates nuisances for people trying to get ahead with their jobs.
 
gathering mobs and farming/lvling in whatever area you want is not wrong. it may be a "rude" thing to do by stealing the mobs that people normally lvl off of but there is always somwhere else to go to lvl and there is also a nice way to ask a person to leave some mobs. with that said, there is also nothing wrong with taking a mob off of a train since it is not claimed. it may also be rude to do, but no rules against it. as far as him training 3 gobs to u, it is obvious that it was intentional since the rdm at that lvl will not die from those gobs by any mean of the sense and it was meant to MPK.

**this statement was not a flame to anyone...just my 2 cents worth*** please dont kill the messenger!
 
masterorion said:
gathering mobs and farming/lvling in whatever area you want is not wrong. it may be a "rude" thing to do by stealing the mobs that people normally lvl off of but there is always somwhere else to go to lvl and there is also a nice way to ask a person to leave some mobs. with that said, there is also nothing wrong with taking a mob off of a train since it is not claimed. it may also be rude to do, but no rules against it. as far as him training 3 gobs to u, it is obvious that it was intentional since the rdm at that lvl will not die from those gobs by any mean of the sense and it was meant to MPK.

**this statement was not a flame to anyone...just my 2 cents worth*** please dont kill the messenger!

There is no written rule about it, same as there is no written rule about stealing mining points and what not. It is the epitome of rudeness however, in my opinion more so then haveing "sex" in the middle of jeuno and then saying how people should not care what they do. Nor is burning crosses as you much down a city street in full Clan uniform"wrong" if you filled out the necessary paper work. Are you still a dickhead? Yes yes you are, there is no good excuse for this type of behavior. Saying that you are "farming" or its your "Freedom of Speech/Expresion" does not change the underlying fact taht you are trying to offend/harass/scare someone.

There is however a rule against MPKing that goes under harrasment and the GMs do respond to that.
 
farming in lvl areas is totally rude especially gustaberg where it is small but there is no written rule or any rule at all against it. now if it was th highlands, well thats a bit of another story since it is very large. and plus gustaberg is the only place to go when you leave sandy to lvl from lvl 1-8. no written rule is correct but very rude for sure. and mpkers...i hate you all
 
Veresko said:
Rones said:
Or go find another place to lvl and don't steal from people's trains. :roll:

For some reason, I just knew someone would answer something like that.... :roll:

1) Plenty of places to farm at high levels, very few to level at 4-5.

2) Taking all this time to grab gobs, look for me, wrap to Jeuno in the hope that I would die and then go farm in Sarutabaruta (Yeah, I checked you a few times after Eddie) is just plain stupid in my mind.
First off, Veresko, Congrats on Level 10 BST! Those damn creatures never give you props on leveling! LOL.

With that being said, I don't know how many on here have ever even attempted to level BST. If you did, you would know it is TWICE as hard to find a mob to charm, *THEN* a mob to FIGHT! You have to be very selective on the mobs around you (the main reason for BST to have "Wide Scan"). If someone is just randomly farming everything around then it make it much, much harder to make any progress. Any other job, fine you just find something else to kill.

Hell, I was in La Theine, leveling BST as well. I even felt guilty having to use up TWO mobs for one fight. Being that there were others in the area just trying to level like I was.
 
Rones said:
Anytime someone grabs one from my train I warp/escape out on them (and using your logic, if it wasn't allowed they wouldn't let me warp while being attacked).

Well obviously you're a loser. Thanks for letting me know how you play, I hope I see you leveling a low level job so I can MPK ya. And whether you can warp or not, MPK'ing is now allowed and is a pre teen lamers immature way of saying you that your Epenis is bigger, when in fact you're just another fuckwit who needs to get a life.
 
Why would anyone over level 20 farm in the gustabergs anyhow? Nothing drops shit there, even if you mass kill.
 
Cecilx if you had taken the time to read and comprehend the entire thread you would see I was being somewhat sarcastic as my next few posts were a discussion with another about that being used to disprove someones logic.

Really though I don't see the problem even if I did do that (not that I have gone farming in the last 5 months), you wrong me by taking mobs I want to fight, so I let you have all of them. In many cases me warping wouldn't even matter if they hadn't taken something from the train (eg: non aggro but linking type mob or they are too high for aggro but mob still links.) No one likes a voke puller stealing mobs from a ranged puller while exping and I don't see this as any different. You can find other mobs without taking the ones I already grabbed, you are taking the ones in the train solely to annoy the farmer, don't try to deny that. Don't bother the farmer and the farmer doesn't bother you.
Well obviously you're a loser. Thanks for letting me know how you play, I hope I see you leveling a low level job so I can MPK ya.
And thanks for stooping lower than anyone in this thread. At least the rdm in question had some motive, while you are just doing it to be a loser. No worries though, people like you have made me sick of this game and sick of helping people, so I hardly even play anymore. Perhaps people aren't naturally mean, maybe you force them to be that way with your actions. I'm one of the nicest people you would have meet in game, too bad you didn't take the time to get to know me before judging.
 
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