Eleibfrid and Tenkax (copy and past before deletion)

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Winkle why don't you try to refrain from making neo look dumb thats not what this thread is about. It's not a let's make neolink look dumb thread most of us know he is a little on the dumb side.

Why don't you try reading all of my posts if you haven't already. I've shown some proof and made some good arguments.

Edit: You haven't quoted one person besides neo it's obvious your only focused on making him look dumb or bad.

Cubswoo asked for some proof and asked that we not flame neo and not derail this thread.

I want to see some evidence of a just banning and I will be happy neo will stfu and leave, thread will be locked and we can all go back to the normal THIS DUDES A TOTAL GIMP flames.
 
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The board has NO AUTHORITY to pursue judgment against someone who is doing something out side of the board PERIOD. (If thats the case Neolink wins unban him and remove ele from moderator status.)

If you don't like him in game blist him. Simple.

Or get a GM involved.

P.S.
I rather doubt that is the reason though. Please don't post like you know something for a fact if your really do not. However if you do know this for a fact and can prove it please do.
There's something amusing and poetic about the fact that the only one who is standing up for Neolink... is another moron.
There's zero credibility for anything he says, and a whole lot of reason for him not to be here. Frankly, you've got very little say in what someone can and should be banned for, and something outside of this board is perfectly bannable, depending on what it is. In summary: shut the fuck up.
 
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There's something amusing and poetic about the fact that the only one who is standing up for Neolink... is another moron.
There's zero credibility for anything he says, and a whole lot of reason for him not to be here. Frankly, you've got very little say in what someone can and should be banned for, and something outside of this board is perfectly bannable, depending on what it is. In summary: shut the fuck up.

Ya this coming for the guy who rates me down every chance he gets. Oh and by the way When u rated me down I rated you down back within 5mins then somehow like 3 days later you rated me down again did ele give you mod permission to do that? because I still can't rate you down if I wanted. But I wouldn't anyways because it's just childish do I need to show the picture here of you rating me down like 3-5 days later when everyone on here knows it takes WEEKS OR MONTHS before you can rate someone down again? I already sent SS's of it to 1 mod.
EDIT: I was off it was 15days between but the point is still valid that is before someone can rate someone again or at least it is for me.

You flame me every chance you get you are one of the MOST biased people on here. You are the one with zero credibility not me. People don't like me maybe but that doesn't mean I don't have credibility with them.

Your telling me I can't say what people can and can't be banned for I have access to the rules also. Then you go on to say that people can be banned for IN GAME things what makes you so special you can say that? AND NO THEY CAN'T.

Again I'm not standing up for neolink I am standing up against a Mod abusing his power.
 
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The board has NO AUTHORITY to pursue judgment against someone who is doing something out side of the board PERIOD. (If thats the case Neolink wins unban him and remove ele from moderator status.)

The board has every authority to ban anyone at any time for any reason. If I felt like it I'd ban every furry, Ron Paul/Mike Gravel supporter and Scientologist on this board on sight. I don't do that, but it's well within the scope of what a mod can do on this forum. You have no rights on an internet forum, but because the forum wants traffic, it allows users freedoms - freedoms that can be revoked at the board's discretion.
 
Anybody here can see I did not break one single rule after my temp ban (I admit to breaking one by flamebaiting) yet I was banned.

Hmmmmmm I did not break one single rule, yet I admit to breaking one by flamebaiting?

Does that make sense to you?

I believe you answered your own question as to why you were banned right dere.
 
The board has every authority to ban anyone at any time for any reason. If I felt like it I'd ban every furry, Ron Paul/Mike Gravel supporter and Scientologist on this board on sight. I don't do that, but it's well within the scope of what a mod can do on this forum. You have no rights on an internet forum, but because the forum wants traffic, it allows users freedoms - freedoms that can be revoked at the board's discretion.

Then why have rules at all? What are rules good for if they are not enforced? Even towards the mods.

You wanted proof I showed you some so why did you ask for any at all?
 
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Winkle why don't you try to refrain from making neo look dumb thats not what this thread is about. It's not a let's make neolink look dumb thread most of us know he is a little on the dumb side.

Why don't you try reading all of my posts if you haven't already. I've shown some proof and made some good arguments.

Edit: You haven't quoted one person besides neo it's obvious your only focused on making him look dumb or bad.
Well, um ... I never really called him "dumb." In fact, I'm fairly certain that's what YOU just did ... not me.

To be honest, I'm rather surprised that someone who seems to be flailing for a direction of argument is speaking so coherently. He's certainly easier to follow than others that I could name; I just wish he'd get to the damn point. His continual stalling is really what led me to growing so frustrated with him in the first place.

My examination of his past behavior, after I REALLY grew curious about what was going on, only added to that. I assure you ... any perceived desire to "make someone look dumb" (as you put it) is sheer imagination.



As to responding directly to your post ... I didn't, because it seemed fairly irrelevant to me regarding the larger issue at question. If you insist, however:

Blancho said:
Telling everyone it is ok to flame neolink without any penalty.

There is certainly some merit to your argument about Eleibfrid setting Neolink up as a target.

All I can say to that is that Neolink really set HIMSELF up. It's what he wanted. What's more, it's not really a special condition that a moderator was setting aside for Neolink, and Neolink alone. He may have framed it that way verbally, but it was more of an exasperated "dressing down" than anything else.

As far as the flameboard is concerned, "anyone" is open to flaming without ramifications. That's the beauty of the place. It's not a special state of being, created solely for him. I'm sure that if any true rules were broken (such as a genuine threat to Neolink's physical person), there would indeed be ramifications.

To your next point:

Blancho said:
Admitting to Jamal he erased some of his posts. But really gives no valid reason as to why.

The deletion of one post, based on content, is contestable. I'll go that far with you.

The repeated posting of the SAME CONTENT over and over, however, simply to get around said deletion, is just SPAM. I know firsthand that it is possible to make your case for previously deleted content, and win. I also know that stubbornly spamming an original post, in slightly different forms, is NOT the way to go about that fight.

Spam, at the very least, is a clearly identifiable violation of a rule. If Neolink wants to make an argument about his first post, then fine ... let's get the contents of it paraphrased, here, and discuss why it was removed. Maybe he'll even win.

The creation of sockpuppets ad nauseam, however, to create a mobile infantry of repetitive posts, is definitely a justifiable ticket to ban-city.


Blancho said:
I also feel Neolink and others such as Peregrine have been wrongfully removed rather I like them much or not. I am someone to stand up for things and I respect others who do the same.

Peregrine, as you'll recall, was an avid supporter of the destruction of the Flameboard overall. He WANTED moderators to have the ability to ban users, for little more than "trolling" and "flamebaiting" ... an exercise in judgement that is completely subjective. The true irony there, perhaps, is that out of perhaps ALL the other users on QCDN, the one person that could universally be agreed upon as a "flamebaiter" was Peregrine.

It was rather like a burglar advocating for stricter theft laws. He nailed his own coffin shut. Why are we even talking about it? What does he have to do with THIS? Let's stay on topic.


As for Neolink ... well, persistance won out, and we're back in the throes of that case, aren't we? Let's see how it turns out.
 
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I expected to really not like your post Winkle but I'll give it to you, your response back to me wasn't bad.

I will say the sock puppet thing was after his banning and it was to try and plead his case.

I would still like to see it come from the horses mouth ele as to the exact reason.

Neo came on here for an answer he deserves a direct answer let's get it and leave it there.

Also he admits to deleting "posts" not just one post.
 
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The rules/guidelines are there because there ARE some things that simply are not allowed here, and from what you showed me with the Ele posts it didn't look to me like anything was broken. You may see it differently, but from moderating quite a few boards in the past it's a necessary function to handle some situations.

But you also need to give mods discretion. When there are hard and fast rules, that lends itself to people JUST skating the edge and then bitching when they get punished because technically no rules were 'broken.' It's why restaurants and department stores have 'we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone' signs. Noone is entitled to post on QCDN except the admin/owner of the site. As a mod, I can ban any user I want. As an admin, Reeve can ban anyone he wants.

As a user, you can choose not to visit this site. If you're enough trouble, the mods/admins can make that choice for you.
 
Fair enough. Your last post however was very MODS ARE GOD WE DO WHAT THE FUCK WE WANT! That aggravated me a great deal. This post was much cleaner and to the point. However if the members see fit to call out a Mod I feel the other mods and the Admin included should look into it in more depth and maybe even keep a watchful eye on him.

Then again I guess thats for you guys to decide.
 
-The post that was just deleted-



I mean it's painfully obvious that Eleibfrid and Tenkax are unable to moderate effectively. Anytime an argument is presented against them, they just delete the posts that present concrete truth!

Futhermore, rebellion is the in trend at the qcdn prep table and they've clearly taken the stance that Reeve "doesn't do anything here and doesn't care". So if that's the case: clearly the blame falls directly on Eleibfrid and Tenkax who can not comprehend moderation. (Double meaning, Tenkax is listed under AA.)

It's apparent that doing the right thing is in the back of Tenkax and Eleibfrid's mind, they corrupt, manipulate, deceive, and do it all so they will have green letters on their net handle. They preach fairplay and universal peace, but use other people (namely myself) to gain public trust and popularity for their own personal gain.

Despite that... they make posts all over the internet wondering why people in the United States goverment always end up being evil. (A completely baseless arguement.)







If Reeve is not to blame for Tenkax and Eleibfrid deleting posts and using people for their own personal gain. Then who is? The victim?

I assure you that is clincal insanity.

If Eleibfrid and Tenkax are unable to display any knowledge of how to work a computer or be decent human beings, then why are they moderators?





On another note, I would still be willing to forgive them for their treason.

On an encrypted note, until an absolution is reached, the cold war continues. A cold war that is completely lopsided with my base holding all the nukes.

Take that as you will.



-The post to those who responded-:








Ok this is a great post, thanks for responding.



The glaring problem I face is that my posts are deleted, and the public is left with a moderators word vs. a members word.

I sent messages in game to all parties involved shortly after I was TEMP banned. I clearly let the moderators know that I was confused about being banned. Admittedly, many of my posts were on the flameboard and more often than not, they were nothing more than a strong worded complaint.

Despite this...I followed all the rules set forth by Eleibfrid on the sticky, yet when I questioned a post Eleibfrid made about linkshells never having any pull in regards to Moderator issues, I was promptly banned.

My reason for posting in the BigKahuna's shell was to flamebait Kerowynn. It failed and I was given a warning by Tenkax. If you look on Kerowynn's signature, you'll see that she thanks Tenkax for the sig.

If you look at the posts Eleibfrid claims I broke the rules on, not only will you see I broke none, you'll often see people like Myrrh chiming in, Myrrh being a fellow "owmyface" linkshell member.



And let's assume for 1 second that the moderators are right.

Let's assume I did everything they said I did.

Anybody here can see I did not break one single rule after my temp ban (I admit to breaking one by flamebaiting) yet I was banned.



I've spoken to certain people about this in game. One quote I like best:
"I've noticed the moderators cracking down lately and perhaps they used you to set an example."



I think we can all agree that Tenkax and Eleibfrid clearly do not want this issue out in the open and I, personally, think it's very immature for them to delete these posts and pretend they don't exist.

Wouldn't a better solution be to work this out? Wouldn't the proper course of action be to actually discuss this rather than hiding in the corner?

At least I learned one thing:
Justice does not always prevail.



In closing,

I know you're probably skeptical, I know that to most of you, this seems like another banned member lashing out on a sockpuppet. To that I say, you're right...but send me a /tell in game. Talk to me on another platform. Allow me to send you screenshots and emails.

I have the truth about two people in power who are lying to you.

It's up to you to do the right thing.

Lets start from the begining. You are a stupid asshole that gets on everyone's nerves. There is always one, sometimes more. Like Windaria, or Shintroy, or Blazn, or Bumbleberetard, or Colbwa, or even Roofie. Most people don't like the interactions they have with you on this board. Most people don't like you at all. Most people are glad you are (kinda) gone.

Somebody ban this sockpuppet for breaking rules concerning the use of sockpuppets.

Really, just leave. You don't like it hear because you think you are being over censored. Here doesn't like you because you are a whiny lil bitch. Make both parties happy by leaving.

ps: I read your all your posts.
 
However if the members see fit to call out a Mod I feel the other mods and the Admin included should look into it in more depth and maybe even keep a watchful eye on him.

Then again I guess thats for you guys to decide.

Hey guess what this thread is about? A PERMABANNED MEMBER ALLOWED TO CALL OUT TWO MODS REGARDING HIS BANNING.
 
PS everyone stop full quoting the OP, it's tall.jpg in words form
 
An investigation(keeping an eye out) goes beyond a thread of someone that no one likes.

I'm just saying a lot of very strange things deleted post(ele admits to) and other things have been going on lately and a lot of it leads back to ele. Neo isn't the first to call him out Jamal did Winkle did in that OP quote a lot of people have been showing things leading back to ele that are very odd and unjust.
 
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An investigation(keeping an eye out) goes beyond a thread of someone that no one likes.

you got it, let me rustle up the cast of law and order: free internet forums unit and theyll crack this case or your money back plus a free phone or carpet shampooer
 
You wanted some proof 4 people have called ele out at different times Jamal, Neolink, Blancho and Winkle and I'm sure theres many more and Ele has even admitted to some of it. You wanted proof but you won't take SURE FIRE PROOF EVEN ELE HIMSELF ADMITTING IT seriously?
 
Ya but he also went beyond that. Guess he got on a roll and couldn't stop.
 
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