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Tiyakelth the toolbot says
"I was a millionaire back when the highest NA was 60 and 1 mil gil meant something" GO GO ige.And if you want to brag about money in a game then i can always start on wealth in Real life.
 
wolfskymoon said:
Tiyakelth the toolbot says
"I was a millionaire back when the highest NA was 60 and 1 mil gil meant something" GO GO ige.

IGE didn't even deal in gil at that time, gilsellers were non existant.

wolfskymoon said:
And if you want to brag about money in a game then i can always start on wealth in Real life.

Go for it. :wink:
 
hey guys, i have a PCC. sorry this is on topic, but i just gotta say i have one. too bad im giving it away :D
 
Vang said:
Lavi did you just completley overlook my post? Go look up bloodbead earring you moron and ask me if I claimed LK again, better yet run away and hide like usual after you look at the price history.

Let me explain it to you in the most simplest way for you since you are so stupid you cannot grasp your own hypocrisy. You complain VE emperor is running around unclaimed and the NM you ALWAYS camp was running around unclaimed. You finally got off your ass and killed it but its NO DIFFERENT FROM THE VE EXAMPLE. Get a fucking clue moron. You are one of those dipshits sitting in Jueno who might have something more important to do than constantly claim NMs. Someone eventually claimed VE just like you eventually claimed Leech King. So want to try it again? You are a lazy fuck. Your own words.

Vang said:
Your point? Anyone can make gil, not everyone can make mine or Tiya's idea of "making gil". As far as your learn to adapt comment, you suck at camping NMs, did back then and you still do after losing an NM to a couple scrubby noobs lol. Hard to adapt to anything when you were never "used" to it in the first place. (Ya know? Getting drops? Making gil off those NMs?) So chill with that noise Camper wannabe.

Blah blah blah... If you adapted why the hell are you still crying about an update from a month ago? Oh thats right, you aren't special anymore. Cry. I made my gil. I have two crafts at respectable levels. I don't horde gil and buy every piece of elite gear because I don't feel like doing so. I played perfectly fine without a Serket Ring for 20+ levels, I think I can live without it for now. I play my game the way I want to. I don't come on here crying when SE changes the game and makes it so I am completely unhappy. I especially don't come on here and when my first post bitching about the update dies, I start a new one. GG.

Vang said:
I have adressed this before, just like everything else that you skip over and repost "OMG Im sick of asking the same things over and over" when I have answered them. I said you should not be camping anything without at least TH2, otherwise it's just a waste of a NM. NOW if you had TH4 and were ragging on me maybe I would listen, but you have nothing. No Th2 even so you're saying all this to be prepostorous, go get TH3 or Th4 and as much gil as Phraust, Tiya or myself have made strictly on NMs then YOU can tell ME what I should and should not camp with.

You missed the point entirely. Maybe its because you are so stupid but I will say it again for you. Not everyone can have TH2. Can everyone level thief in this game? No its physically impossible unless everyone has also leveled 5 other jobs minimum. Does everyone want to level thief? Hell no. Do people have the right to camp NMs without TH2? Yes. You and Phraust come on here bitching up a storm because people don't get the drop but should instead spend days leveling up a thief so they can get a NMs that should only take them a couple of hours. See the logic in that? Or maybe every thief in the server should spend their time constantly helping people so that everyone can benefit? Do you see either of the situations being realistic? No. Then either shut the fuck up about people not having TH2 or get a solution where everyone can easily get it. I camp almost 100% of the time with TH2, but sometimes the situation doesn't allow it, but a shot is better than nothing, but I guess thats too much to grasp for you.

And lasty you called people lazy fucks because they were to lazy to claim the NMs. Since you seem to always have the time to camp because you obviously have nothing else, why didn't you camp it and claim it? Thats right, because according to your own statement, you are a lazy fuck. You had as much opportunity as anyone else, in fact since you are so accustomed to camping that particular NM, you would have a better chance with it, so doesn't that mean you are more than a lazy ass? Maybe a dumbass? Valkurm Emperor was unclaimed? Have you ever seen VE unclaimed before the update? I certainly have. So why is it different after the update? Personally I think its worse it was unclaimed before the update. Before people should have been constantly camping it for gil, now its worthless. They can only recieve the drop once now, beyond that VE is useless to anyone. Before anyone could have claimed it and become that much richer, now its nothing.

This makes no sense? If someone is too lazy to leave Jueno then they are also too lazy to claim a NM or even farm. Hence why you keep harping about when Meeze saw VE unclaimed. You keep saying that SE hands everything to us with this last update but its no different from prior to the update. People were lazy then, they are lazy now. The only difference is now the average farmer has a better chance to claim it than he/she did before. Like Peregrine said, SE caters to me now, not you and that just pisses you off.

Vang said:
Now is the part where you respond with "You never answer my questions" when I have been doing it the whole time.

Lavi said:
In fact you neglect every question I posed you because we know you have no reply. Why do you think SE made items rare? Why do you get to decide whats gimp? Why do you decide TH2 is the bare minimum?

Lavi said:
What is the point of a rare tag? A rare tag allows the owner to only have one of that item, but why would SE want you to only have one of any said item? If it was a rare ring like the Jeager Ring, it would be because SE does not want you to have two Jaeger rings equipped probably. But what about equip like head gear or neck gear, where there is only 1 slot to equip the item? Could it be that SE had initially intended people to camp for an item once and then use the item, then sell it when it was no longer needed? I tend to believe they had that purpose in mind, but did not realize people would hoard NMs in suchs a way. To make the game the way they intended it, they replaced them with EX versions and made it so that everyone can have a chance at the items now via a lvl 40 BCNM. That being said, unless you can find some other purpose in a rare tag, its your own fault PCC are now common place and you have only yourself to cry to.

Still waiting on it. I don't recall any of these questions being answered EVER. I also asked who decides these standards and who decides who is gimp? Someone even said SH used to be rare and not many thiefs had it, now its considered the standard. Why is a SH the standard when its an elite piece of gear not everyone is meant to have? Since you seem to selectively think this game revolves around you and everything beneath your abilities is gimp, I want to know why? I know a hell of a lot more ninjas who are far superior to you, does that make you a noob? They have all god gear too, does that make you gimp too? I am sure, I can find someone with TH4 who can vouch for the effectiveness of it, does that mean you and Phraust will heed your own advice and stop camping since in essence you are wasting a NM? More than likely you'll just gloss over this entire post and say your amazing catch phrases, "You search whore", "CC", "Lazy Fuck", "You camp NM without TH2", "Gear > Skill", etc. Please I would like something maybe original with some thought into it, I know you can do it. But then again, thats all you have ever do on here anyways, so why should I expect different?[/quote]
 
Let me explain it to you in the most simplest way for you since you are so stupid you cannot grasp your own hypocrisy. You complain VE emperor is running around unclaimed and the NM you ALWAYS camp was running around unclaimed. You finally got off your ass and killed it but its NO DIFFERENT FROM THE VE EXAMPLE. Get a fucking clue moron. You are one of those dipshits sitting in Jueno who might have something more important to do than constantly claim NMs. Someone eventually claimed VE just like you eventually claimed Leech King. So want to try it again? You are a lazy fuck. Your own words.

Why do I need to try it again? Why claim an NM I have the duplicate item for? Why claim VE when I was one of the first NA to have an Empress pin? Why? Why go claim Leech King when I have 98 cloth with a retarded amount of gil to take it to 100 or stop for now and profit all day? Why? I don't xp Ninja or Thf anymore, I craft now. I never had to craft before as much because I had NMs to produce my gil easily and without fail most of the time. No one should be telling me how to make gil or what Nms to camp, been there, done that, disgustingly rich because of it. Got that?


Blah blah blah... If you adapted why the hell are you still crying about an update from a month ago? Oh thats right, you aren't special anymore.

Because I want more. NMs give me that. Whenever was I special? I was? Awww were you jealous? :cry:

Cry. I made my gil.

"Made" your gil from what? Not NMs, we know this. You act as if you made out like a bandit pre NM nerf. You didn't, I did. There you go thinking you were a camper again lol.

I have two crafts at respectable levels.

What does this have to do with anything? What crafts and what levels? This is all a matter of opinion, I am a cloth vet from way back when, crafting before all these geeks were IGEing it up to get their "respectable" levels. Do you think cooking at 64 or so (guessing) means a damn thing to me lol?

I don't horde gil and buy every piece of elite gear because I don't feel like doing so.

and I don't play in the NFL because I don't feel like doing so, oh wait, it's because I probably could never run with the pros in the first place, oh well, that's just me making cop outs again.

I played perfectly fine without a Serket Ring for 20+ levels, I think I can live without it for now.

Just like the THF that says he "Played perfectly fine without an Emp pin or Leaping Boots" or the Dark that "Played perfectly fine without sniper's rings." These are usual comments from people who couldn't get them in the first place. Im not saying Serket ring is on the same scale of must have as my other 2 examples but it's a very nice item to have and I really don't see why any WHM wouldn't get one. Oh wait I know why!

>>>>>
I play my game the way I want to.
<<<<<<<

Did you just graduate from the Dunes yesterday? God everything you say sounds so noobish and defensive lol.

I don't come on here crying when SE changes the game and makes it so I am completely unhappy. I especially don't come on here and when my first post bitching about the update dies, I start a new one. GG.

Yea you just come on here crying making a boo hoo thread when you got owned by an NM and expected your competition to save your dumbass so you could finish the NM off. BTW who said I was unhappy ingame? I'm just unhappy Nms are taken away from the campers. So GG to you too sweetie.

You missed the point entirely. Maybe its because you are so stupid but I will say it again for you. Not everyone can have TH2. Can everyone level thief in this game? No its physically impossible unless everyone has also leveled 5 other jobs minimum. Does everyone want to level thief? Hell no. Do people have the right to camp NMs without TH2? Yes. You and Phraust come on here bitching up a storm because people don't get the drop but should instead spend days leveling up a thief so they can get a NMs that should only take them a couple of hours. See the logic in that? Or maybe every thief in the server should spend their time constantly helping people so that everyone can benefit?

Once again with the cop outs and excuses. Does everyone want to camp NMs? Nope. But if you're going to (or at least make pitiful attempts at it) I would think you would be smart enough to see the benefits of having it.

Do you see either of the situations being realistic? No. Then either shut the fuck up about people not having TH2 or get a solution where everyone can easily get it. I camp almost 100% of the time with TH2, but sometimes the situation doesn't allow it, but a shot is better than nothing, but I guess thats too much to grasp for you.

So we can agree you don't mind camping a 17-124+ hour NM without TH2 at all because "the situation didn't allow it" right? Who was the stupid one again? Every other phrase you say is a fucking excuse.

This makes no sense? If someone is too lazy to leave Jueno then they are also too lazy to claim a NM or even farm. Hence why you keep harping about when Meeze saw VE unclaimed. You keep saying that SE hands everything to us with this last update but its no different from prior to the update. People were lazy then, they are lazy now. The only difference is now the average farmer has a better chance to claim it than he/she did before. Like Peregrine said, SE caters to me now, not you and that just pisses you off.

You agree with Peregrine now? You lose.

Vang said:
Now is the part where you respond with "You never answer my questions" when I have been doing it the whole time.

Lavi said:
In fact you neglect every question I posed you because we know you have no reply. Why do you think SE made items rare? Why do you get to decide whats gimp? Why do you decide TH2 is the bare minimum?

Lavi said:
What is the point of a rare tag? A rare tag allows the owner to only have one of that item, but why would SE want you to only have one of any said item? If it was a rare ring like the Jeager Ring, it would be because SE does not want you to have two Jaeger rings equipped probably. But what about equip like head gear or neck gear, where there is only 1 slot to equip the item? Could it be that SE had initially intended people to camp for an item once and then use the item, then sell it when it was no longer needed? I tend to believe they had that purpose in mind, but did not realize people would hoard NMs in suchs a way. To make the game the way they intended it, they replaced them with EX versions and made it so that everyone can have a chance at the items now via a lvl 40 BCNM. That being said, unless you can find some other purpose in a rare tag, its your own fault PCC are now common place and you have only yourself to cry to.

Still waiting on it. I don't recall any of these questions being answered EVER. I also asked who decides these standards and who decides who is gimp? Someone even said SH used to be rare and not many thiefs had it, now its considered the standard. Why is a SH the standard when its an elite piece of gear not everyone is meant to have? Since you seem to selectively think this game revolves around you and everything beneath your abilities is gimp, I want to know why? I know a hell of a lot more ninjas who are far superior to you, does that make you a noob? They have all god gear too, does that make you gimp too? I am sure, I can find someone with TH4 who can vouch for the effectiveness of it, does that mean you and Phraust will heed your own advice and stop camping since in essence you are wasting a NM? More than likely you'll just gloss over this entire post and say your amazing catch phrases, "You search whore", "CC", "Lazy Fuck", "You camp NM without TH2", "Gear > Skill", etc. Please I would like something maybe original with some thought into it, I know you can do it. But then again, thats all you have ever do on here anyways, so why should I expect different?
[/quote][/quote]

That's not my problem SE gave us monsters to camp for 2 years then taking it away because of kids like you who could just "never get that drop" whether it be from lack of skill or patience OR TH2 I'm not sure, probably a bit of all 3. Find me someone with Th4 please, I don't think you can. As far as "Me deciding what is gimp" my ideas are roughly the same as the next guy's idea of gimp. Just because I am much more beautiful than the masses doesn't mean i absolutely expect everyone else to be. Do I think everyone should have a PCC? HELL NO. You do not deserve a PCC, you did not camp, claim, kill, and get the drop like i did. Simple as that.

Also I tend to believe if you were not such a terrible NM camper you would be pissed too. It's ok sport, go back to your "respectable craft" and continue to hq meat mithkabobs and fucking fireworks or whatever you do scrub, I'll still be laughing.

You'll always have your trusty excuses to fall back on ^^
 
I can't believe I'm posting here in a 25 page topic that I haven't read all the way through. (I admit it)

but from all the quotes provided and the argument - I can say that Vang has a point. SE did this for the money. Probably b/c people were bitching like Vang said - and because people were tired of people like Vang always getting the mob and drop.

So SE didn't do this for anyone but to keep the majority happy and get the most money they can for the longest period of time.
 
Yes they made sure ppl don't bot/monopolize something for their own gil and selfishness.And if u are that good then you can always find a different way to make money
 
Skaw said:
The guild point system doesn't remove gil from the server, but rather materials. So it doesn't affect the balance of the economy, but rather availability of items.

Actually it does, because most of the efficent GP/gil items are bought from NPC's or are crafted from goods bought from NPC's. My GS glasses cost 300k and 280k of that was straight to NPCs...
 
Arctyrael said:
I can't believe I'm posting here in a 25 page topic that I haven't read all the way through. (I admit it)

but from all the quotes provided and the argument - I can say that Vang has a point. SE did this for the money. Probably b/c people were bitching like Vang said - and because people were tired of people like Vang always getting the mob and drop.

So SE didn't do this for anyone but to keep the majority happy and get the most money they can for the longest period of time.

To keep the majority happy...huh what a novel idea.
 
Peregrine said:
To keep the majority happy...huh what a novel idea.

Bad argument. The majority weren't out camping these things before (otherwise, they would, ya know, have the item in question) and they aren't doing it now. They're also the ones whining on Alla and such about how prices on Emperor Hairpin, Leaping Boots, and Sniper's have gone up and how Square screwed all of us again.

You know how many Bounding Boots, Empress Hairpins, and Peacock Amulets I've seen on people I've checked around this game in the past month?

NONE. Still see plenty of the old ones.
 
I dunno what to really think on this matter.. frankly cause I never cared how these items were made to be aquired anyways. Once I'm done getting WAR to 37, SAM to 37, THF to 37, and NIN to 37 I was planning to camp the NMs anyways for my DRG.. but then I started thinking "well.. I'm just gonna level THF and NIN anyways and they can use those fine items.. after WAR and SAM I might as well camp these NMs for my items". Well, guess what, I will. WAR is 26 and SAM is 10 (I'm such a slow leveler >.>). I'll get there eventually but because I'd rather not have 3 items in my inventory not being of much use to me.. (and that's how I thought when the items were the original drops) I decided to just wait. Gone for 3 months.. I come back and learn things are rare/ex from said NMs and think "wonder what the hell they did with the old ones" and then I learn about it being from a BCNM and then again thought "I don't really wanna have to find 5 other people.. get em together.. and then hope they let me have this item :\ I'll just camp the NMs like I was going to" and so I'll do so.. once I get my damn WAR and SAM to 37 >.> damn them jobs.. damn jungle. Anyways.. I really don't see what the big damn deal is.. the fun is getting the items.. not actually acquiring them. Atleast.. that's how I see it.. the fun is getting any armor I want.. once I have it.. sure I'm better... but then after a day I'm just like "meh.."
 
Hi.

I don't know why you always attack me nor do I care. You are some internet retard who thinks by winning some stupid forum conversation he is somehow special. Yes, you are special, the same kind of special the kids in special ed classes are. Up until I started camping Argus I had never met you nor did I care to. Your arguments in the qcdn forums had always been some baseless comment of gear > skill which as you like any post you have ever made is some rant rather than a proof with any facts behind it. Now when I finally was "lucky" to meet you, I get verbally attacked and for what reason? Because I was camping Argus. You then and even now made poor assumption as to how I played or how I make my gil. Even now you assume I make no gil on NMs when this is another lie but you must be constantly /sea whoring to find that out.

Anyone who has ever camped Argus besides Rinas and Mistasia will tell you it sucks. Not because the botters who constantly camp, not because its such a long window, not because its almost impossible to get the ToD, not for any of these reasons. Its because there was this incredibly annoying bitch down there who did nothing but whine like a baby because "you are stealing my NM". I literally would see page after page of lines in /say from Vang bitching up a storm trying to get me to stop. I don't know whether it was because I claimed Argus right in front of him which made him mad or just because his e-penis shrank a notch when I did, but alas I do not care. The kid was and is still a moron. He comes on here gloating he killed Argus and would watch people for hours trying to claim him like it was funny. You know how stupid that is? How sad and pathetic that is? Very. And I am not talking about the people trying to get Argus just after he died but Vang himself. Let me explain.

I went down camping Argus one day much like I had done several times before. As many campers know, both Leech King and Argus share the same spawn window and if one spawns, the other does not. It makes camping Argus very difficult because you need to watch both areas to be able to efficiently camp Argus. That is why I usually had atleast one other person with me and he was a 50+ thief (mind you this is one of Vang's constant baseless comments, "you don't even have TH2", even after I pointed it out several times, I personally think he may be retarded in all seriousness). I got very lucky that day, I got Leech King not even an hour after coming to camp which was no coincidence since I knew the previous ToD. The best part about it was I was the ONLY person with it. There had been no one else there to get it, they had all been camping inside of Argus' spawn area and would not have been able to get it. So I decided this would be my chance to claim it the next day having the benefit of a new ToD, an advantage no one else had. The next day, I came early, very early, hours before the Window even opened, I wanted to make sure he would be mine this time around. I even told my entire LS to come with me but as most people know about Argus, they would not rather camp him even with a ToD. Only a few came and left after a couple of hours. Finally I was able to get a few people who would stick around and camp with me. I believe we had about 4-5 people a majority of the time but as the window for Argus closed there were only 3 left. Now mind you there were a lot of people there considering they did not have a ToD and Rinas, Mistasia and Vang were among the many there. To my dismay Leech King popped a second time and like before there was no one else in the room except a member of my party. Now this story may seem pointless, but let me explain the funny part. Vang. He was running around all during this time trying to get the ToD and claim. Even after Leech King died, he was still running around trying to get it. You know why this is funny? All the time on this boards Vang tells everyone of his stories camping and how when he kills Argus he stays online for hours laughing at people who missed the ToD and finds it pathetic. Now he was doing the same thing as the very people he had been constantly laughing. And you know what occurred to me? The even sadder more pathetic thing? He had been doing it for 8 months, laughing at people because they were doing the same thing he had been doing daily for 8 months. You truly are a moron.

Vang said:
Did you give up Lavi?
I will not argue with you anymore. I neither care about winning or losing a conversation because there is no end. You cannot even reply to simple questions with one line answers that answer nothing besides the obvious or even worse, have nothing to do with the original question. To you its all about getting the last post in, so if I wished to do so, I could continue this meaningless thread on forever. But hey, I am sure you are just going to ignore everything I have said and bring up "I got a PCC" or "I got more gil than you" to prove whatever it is you think you are trying to prove when in the end everyone knows you are a dumbass, plain and simple.
 
Walls of text phase should have been around 15 pages ago. We should have moved well into the 1-line off-color remarks by now.
 
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