Everyone has a Peacock Charm.

[Ezikiel]

Just finished an exp party, and thought I would post my results.

Setup: PLD, WAR, THF, WHM, RDM, BLM
Area Kuftal tunnel Tigers (con IT low evasion)
Level 68-70
Posted my gear stats earlier.

ATK food: Carbonera (+18% ATK,+4 STR, store TP+4)
Fights...............................15
Avg damage per fight .......1170.07
Percent of damage............24.29
Accuracy..........................66.82
Light skill damage.............328.71

Total damage per fight.......1499

ACC food: Sole sushi (15% Acc, STR+5, DEX+6)
Fights...............................14
Avg damage per fight........1203.41
Percent of damage............24.53
Accuracy..........................80.83
Light skill damage.............387.76

Total damage per fight......1591


Woah.. they are close to the same damage per fight...

Yeah, thats EXACTLY what I said earlier. You can do more damage with your little dagger swings (20 instead of 10) or you can skill chain for more damage, putting more hate on the tank.

There goes the +58 ACC is enough theory.
Infact... There goes the 'too much accuracy, and the laws of diminishing returns' theory.

Now, I am saying this from a THF standpoint. Shark Bite damage is EXTREMELY dependant on TP. Therefore you can NEVER have TOO MUCH Acc as a THF.


Also.. if ANYONE wants to come parse with me.. please, be my guest.


And Pere, The "I'm better than you IRL arguement is soo lame and tired. I dont give a fuck what you do irl. If I wanted to go to UK and become a doctor, I would have done that. I had different plans, and made sure that I was in the six figure income before I hit 25. I have excellent gear, not because I spend all day playing a game, its because I take pride in everything I do...even my hobbies. Which I guess the same can't be said for you.

 

[Skaw]

'too much accuracy, and the laws of diminishing returns'

It's going to vary from mob to mob(Tigers have higher than normal evasion, being THF at the core,) but there are diminishing returns. You can never have 100% Accuracy. STR and Attack plateau off when your damage caps prevent you from doing more.

Just because it didn't happen in your case, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There is a such thing as too much accuracy, just because you didn't happen to have too much at the time, doesn't mean what I'm saying is wrong.

The closer you get to peaking out, the more it'll require to reach it. Thats all Diminishing Returns means, not that there's a definite point in which more causes nothing to happen. After that certain point toward reaching 100% where it starts becoming more work than it should, thats when theres a such thing as too much accuracy.

You can't dismiss something thats used in every MMO just off one case.

 

[wolfskymoon]

Tiya Says :-
No, you're gimp because you don't even have a Scorpion Harness at level 74 (My bad).

You're gimp because you apparently think its impossible to take a little bit of time out of each play session to raise your marksmanship now.

You're gimp because ANY thief can match your gear and (most likely) skill without much effort - just as you didn't put any effort into it yourself - and therefore also have 90% accuracy and the occasional 60 damage crit.

You're gimp because you say the PCC should be 3mil, but that wouldn't do you any good, as you've never held 3mil at one time in your life.

You're gimp because you sit your lazy ass down infront of your computer, and post on QCDN about how pathetic people that are better than you are.

You're gimp because you won't put forth that little bit of extra effort to bump your accuracy up another 5%, your crits up so that they ALWAYS hit for 60 damage instead of occasionally.

You're gimp because you're less than average in the greater scheme of things, and still think you're somehow high and mighty, when you have nothing to offer that every other 74 thief doesn't also have to offer.

ITs BETTER THAN BUYING 5 PCS AND BOTTING ARGUS.Peregrine dies like freaking 9 to 10 times per dynamis or more.What have you given to the community? who the fuck are you?I bet most of the server doesn't even know who the fuck you are. You are one of those retards who play a game just to satisfy them selves by letting down others who don't have enough time/ like to do enjoy a game in a different way.O yes you are one of the biches who used to monopolize argus 24/7.I bet you have fun managing 4 to 5 chars . and now all you come up is with "Gimp".

 

[Duffman]

In most regards, this game is not a competetion. We were meant to play
together. I'd rather everyone in my party have a PCC then not. Having
great equipment helps; it doesn't hurt. If everyone in my party was
super decked out, that would be fine by me.

 

[hellstorm]

Raivven, I'm barely even talking to you any more. This is more general commentary. You're just a space-filler until someone of more substance comes around if they so choose or until you finally get it. You have no chance of getting it if you eat sushi with 58 acc on, so we'll just stick to space-filler.

Do you like being looked down on based on things you think are out of your hands? You don't have to have a crappy job. You're just too lazy to work for more. So work harder, because you're a blue-collar and I don't associate with blue-collars. I'm not an elitist, I worked hard for what I got. But what I have the government takes away and gives to you losers in tax breaks and welfare checks and minimum wage raises. They take what I have and give it to people who don't work for it. I earned every penny. I invested 8 years of education in the sciences to get where I am today. Tell you what, if you don't have a classic Celica you're a gimp. Look at you in your busted Honda Accord. But oh well, they'll probably give you hobos Celicas as the next community service project. Put some Jimmy-Carter logo on it and take your pictures beside your four mangy kids and fugly wife that works at the laundromat. Not like you all would ever appreciate Celica's anyway. You'd probably pawn it for a washer and dryer or some diapers to keep your 5th from crapping all over the floor. That's if your Accord can even get you to the handouts and you can even fill out the paperwork without screwing up and saying it's too hard.

Do you get it now? Don't make me spell it out.

Sooner or later it's going to click into your all's heads what I'm trying to prove if this steams your broccoli enough.

You don't have to have a crappy job. You're just too lazy to work for more. So work harder, because you're a blue-collar and I don't associate with blue-collars. I'm not an elitist, I worked hard for what I got. But what I have the government takes away and gives to you losers in tax breaks and welfare checks and minimum wage raises. They take what I have and give it to people who don't work for it. I earned every penny. I invested 8 years of education in the sciences to get where I am today.

Ok

Vang's version

"You don't have to be a scrub in this game. You're just too lazy to work for more. So work harder, because you're a gimp who slows down my xp and I don't associate with gimps. I'm not an elitist, I worked hard for what I got. But what I have SE takes away and gives to you losers for free to camp, and you still don't camp them. They took what I had and basically give to people who don't work for it. I earned every gil. I invested almost 8 months down in the Maze of Shakrami to get where I am ingame today."

Just a game I know, but after reading that quote, if no one can see the hypocrisy in all of your views after reading that quote of yours and you can't either Peregrine then we have major problems.

actually that mustly why SE did what they did they didnt like the idea of people getting rich off of camping 1 item. You blame it on whiners but you dont think SE whould catch on. Let put it this way if you make something avilible to everyone then prices go down. SE was trying find a solusion to the inflation problem. Did they handle it right? NO Because all they did was shift what everyone is camping

 

[Foofighter]

Ok let me throw my opinion into the fray for the simple fact that I am an opionated son of a bitch.

1st of all they are not giving away PCC in Lower Jueno for free. This BC is extremely hard and my friend who has been doing it is currently 0/12 on PCC drops.

2nd Duffman hits it right on the nose -Wouldn't you all want your party/LS mates to have the best equipment available? I plan on doing this BC soon as many times as possible to get my LS pimped out with PCC so our bards can sing 2 attack songs instead of 1 attack 1 accuracy.

3rd Who gives a fuck what Vang thinks anyway. He has a major inferiority complex. Though a friendly guy to good players he is a complete jerk to the casual player. Vang - try and say something bad about me - Yes, I quit for 4 months and I am still more respected and more pimped out than you.

And finally, it is a fucking game used for leisure. Why some of you get so worked up about it blows my mind.

Foofighter ~Affinity~

 

[TiyaKelth]

ITs BETTER THAN BUYING 5 PCS AND BOTTING ARGUS.Peregrine dies like freaking 9 to 10 times per dynamis or more.What have you given to the community? who the fuck are you?I bet most of the server doesn't even know who the fuck you are. You are one of those retards who play a game just to satisfy them selves by letting down others who don't have enough time/ like to do enjoy a game in a different way.O yes you are one of the biches who used to monopolize argus 24/7.I bet you have fun managing 4 to 5 chars . and now all you come up is with "Gimp".

It gets old WSM. I'd post the screenshot of a GM CONGRATULATING ME ON A CLAIM AND KILL as proof, but you always seem to look over that one and leave the threads when I do.

 

[Zaltana]

the cycle continues. :roll:

 

[Zaltana]

ITs BETTER THAN BUYING 5 PCS AND BOTTING ARGUS.Peregrine dies like freaking 9 to 10 times per dynamis or more.What have you given to the community? who the fuck are you?I bet most of the server doesn't even know who the fuck you are. You are one of those retards who play a game just to satisfy them selves by letting down others who don't have enough time/ like to do enjoy a game in a different way.O yes you are one of the biches who used to monopolize argus 24/7.I bet you have fun managing 4 to 5 chars . and now all you come up is with "Gimp".

It gets old WSM. I'd post the screenshot of a GM CONGRATULATING ME ON A CLAIM AND KILL as proof, but you always seem to look over that one and leave the threads when I do.

imo this whole argument of "im better then u cause i have this item" is old. status symbol items are nice. but simply having or not having them meand nothing. skill is what matters. if a person doesnt have an item u think they should but performs up to par in spite of that you should be patting him/her on the back. i rather be looked up to for my skill then for the items i have. but im a mage i dont have to worry about this as much.

 

[Zylia]

ITs BETTER THAN BUYING 5 PCS AND BOTTING ARGUS.Peregrine dies like freaking 9 to 10 times per dynamis or more.What have you given to the community? who the fuck are you?I bet most of the server doesn't even know who the fuck you are. You are one of those retards who play a game just to satisfy them selves by letting down others who don't have enough time/ like to do enjoy a game in a different way.O yes you are one of the biches who used to monopolize argus 24/7.I bet you have fun managing 4 to 5 chars . and now all you come up is with "Gimp".

It gets old WSM. I'd post the screenshot of a GM CONGRATULATING ME ON A CLAIM AND KILL as proof, but you always seem to look over that one and leave the threads when I do.

I don't think he's focusing so much on the morality of it and what the GM's think about it... He's focusing on the fact that you had 4 extra computers/PS2's at your disposal. Thats 4 more than the average FFXI player has. It doesn't make you a better FFXI player, it just means your willing to waste more money than just your fee of $13/mo to play an online game. Doesn't prove anything about your character in game. Same with people who buy gil. You can invest more money into the game, so of course you're going to appear better equipped and whatnot. When it comes down to it though, skill-wise ignoring equipment, your on the same level as everyone else. Thats how you make yourself really stand out.

 

[alanon]

LMFAO!!!

Pere, you are such a brat that it is borderline sad/hysterical! Every post I see you argue with someone in, the second someone disagrees with you, the name calling ensues (begger, elitist, etc). For all this real-life talk in regards to farming, I am curious about your playtime. I'd be willing to bet it's right on par with my own, and I do have a lot of nice things.

Some people in this game actually ENJOY doing stuff that makes their character better. This is not your typical final fantasy game where you just go to the end, beat a boss and call it a day. If that is your style, fine. However maybe this game isn't for you. I'm not telling you to quit, I'm saying that maybe you ought to re-evaluate what you want in a game and if this game has whatever you are looking for.

To get to the heart of what I think this topic says, for me, this game has always, from day #1, been about setting a series of goals and accomplishing them. The dumbing down of some of these goals is really starting to tarnish the game for me. Say what you will, but SE is not on your side. If their goal was the economy, they would have made it a more common pop, or a more common drop in BCNM. I mean, they had to know what moving archer rings would do. No, they were making an attempt at hurting RMT.

About "real life": This may be a game, and people may be roll-playing, but I'd be willing to bet that the personalities of the characters in game largely take on the personalities of the RL people controlling them. If you are a liar in game, you are probably a liar in RL. If you are untrustworthy in game, you are probably untrustworthy in RL. If you are lazy in game, you are probably lazy in RL. Phraust has feminine characteristics in game......

You are still in college, you are just beginning your life. What you *think* you know now, will change at 30 and continue to change as you get older. You are very inexperienced when it comes to "real life", so please save your preaching as it only makes you look more foolish.

 

[TiyaKelth]

I don't think he's focusing so much on the morality of it and what the GM's think about it... He's focusing on the fact that you had 4 extra computers/PS2's at your disposal. Thats 4 more than the average FFXI player has. It doesn't make you a better FFXI player, it just means your willing to waste more money than just your fee of $13/mo to play an online game. Doesn't prove anything about your character in game. Same with people who buy gil. You can invest more money into the game, so of course you're going to appear better equipped and whatnot. When it comes down to it though, skill-wise ignoring equipment, your on the same level as everyone else. Thats how you make yourself really stand out.

Do you really think anything WSM says has merit? I do NOT have 4 extra computers and I do NOT have 4 extra accounts. The closest that rings to the truth is I borrowed a friends computer and account for a relatively short period of time while they were on vacation, and 2boxed.

And no, that isn't what WSM was focused on. From day 1 he has accused Phraust, Rinas, and I of being bots, because, simply, we're far better than him.

I know you're upset about having your every on-topic argument countered Zylia, but take your own advice and stick to the topic instead of trying to get some sort of revenge against me.

 

[vang]

Vang - try and say something bad about me -

You bazaar sniper rings, emp pin, and leaping boots for 99,999,999 like a noob who thinks he needs to show off normal items?

Best I could come up with, oh yea Foofighters suck too :wink:

 

[Peregrine]

About "real life": This may be a game, and people may be roll-playing, but I'd be willing to bet that the personalities of the characters in game largely take on the personalities of the RL people controlling them. If you are a liar in game, you are probably a liar in RL. If you are untrustworthy in game, you are probably untrustworthy in RL. If you are lazy in game, you are probably lazy in RL.

And if you're an elitist little snot in-game, you're probably an elitist little snot in RL. Or you would be if you were a somebody and were given the chance. Either way, it doesn't matter to me. I'm not an elitist in the game, and neither am I an elitist face to face. I hate elitists. They disgust me. Anyone who plays around me knows I'm not an elitist who would make fun of someone who doesn't make 80k a year. It doesn't take more than a million gil to equip a character well enough to chain 5 low IT's. Never has. Never will. All that I require is adequacy, and in exchange I only associate with people who have proficient personalities.

If you're going to make fun of someone who doesn't farm for a scorpion harness, what are you going to do when you graduate highschool and start moving up some sort of real-world ladder where there are people under you? You can't even play a game right. I look at internet elitists and I see nobodies who wish they were somebodies, to they be somebodies in the only place they can...instead of an education they get a turbo controller. Instead of a network of people they buy another account. And online that's all it takes to make you a somebody and lord it over people.

Pathetic.

 

[TiyaKelth]

I'm not an elitist in the game, and neither am I an elitist face to face. I hate elitists. They disgust me. Anyone who plays around me knows I'm not an elitist who would make fun of someone who doesn't make 80k a year.

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If you're going to make fun of someone who doesn't farm for a scorpion harness, what are you going to do when you graduate highschool and start moving up some sort of real-world ladder where there are people under you? You can't even play a game right. I look at internet elitists and I see nobodies who wish they were somebodies, to they be somebodies in the only place they can...instead of an education they get a turbo controller. Instead of a network of people they buy another account. And online that's all it takes to make you a somebody and lord it over people.

Pathetic.

Please tell me that was sarcasm again, because the hypocrisy is making me want to puke.

 

[Xerius]

lol omg u guys are so funny...

HOW MUCH SKILL DOES FFXI really take? of course u need good gear after a certain point

 

[Excim]

And if you're an elitist little snot in-game, you're probably an elitist little snot in RL. Or you would be if you were a somebody and were given the chance. Either way, it doesn't matter to me. I'm not an elitist in the game, and neither am I an elitist face to face. I hate elitists. They disgust me. Anyone who plays around me knows I'm not an elitist who would make fun of someone who doesn't make 80k a year. It doesn't take more than a million gil to equip a character well enough to chain 5 low IT's. Never has. Never will. All that I require is adequacy, and in exchange I only associate with people who have proficient personalities.

If you're going to make fun of someone who doesn't farm for a scorpion harness, what are you going to do when you graduate highschool and start moving up some sort of real-world ladder where there are people under you? You can't even play a game right. I look at internet elitists and I see nobodies who wish they were somebodies, to they be somebodies in the only place they can...instead of an education they get a turbo controller. Instead of a network of people they buy another account. And online that's all it takes to make you a somebody and lord it over people.

Pathetic.

At least you're point here is a bit clearer. This post should have come about... ohhh... 4 or 5 pages ago... :?

 

[Odon]

I have a PCC - Kekekekeke.

 

[Peregrine]

I'm not an elitist in the game, and neither am I an elitist face to face. I hate elitists. They disgust me. Anyone who plays around me knows I'm not an elitist who would make fun of someone who doesn't make 80k a year.

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If you're going to make fun of someone who doesn't farm for a scorpion harness, what are you going to do when you graduate highschool and start moving up some sort of real-world ladder where there are people under you? You can't even play a game right. I look at internet elitists and I see nobodies who wish they were somebodies, to they be somebodies in the only place they can...instead of an education they get a turbo controller. Instead of a network of people they buy another account. And online that's all it takes to make you a somebody and lord it over people.

Pathetic.

Please tell me that was sarcasm again, because the hypocrisy is making me want to puke.

Then you must need a Webster's dictionary. Or better yet, a thesaurus, because if you look up hypocricy in it, sarcasm isn't a synnonym. Are really that stupid to miss the glaring sarcasm? Maybe they'll give you all Celicas with Jimmy Carter logos on them? WTF...seriously you can't be that stupid. Just that bullheaded. You got burnt when you mistook sarcasm for hypocrisy, because you hit the post button before you thought. Read it again.

What, was your ACT score in reading comprehension a 15? OH NOES REAL LIYFE!

 

[Mirewen]

Odon, give me money. Kthx :twisted: