F*** SE and here SCH (PUP Discussion)

[Neisan]

By the way, it would be smart for you to not bring up the day bonus since that hurts your cause as well.

 

[Tyrath]

ummm....




So no one on BG can break 1580 but this guy busts out 2050? Something tells me your not being truthful.

According to who? The person saying pup is better?

 

[duncanrun]

According to who? The person saying pup is better?

Yeah Pchan said the highest was 1580 and the Pic shows 2050. I was just saying why I think Pchan is lying.

 

[Necrosis]

ummm....




So no one on BG can break 1580 but this guy busts out 2050? Something tells me your not being truthful.

I believe Pchan's had no day/weather bonuses (the Fire4), whereas that BLM pic obviously does.

 

[Xalioniaf]

Get over yourself

I really don't know why people are making such a huge deal over the fact that SCHs have been buffed.

Black Mages > Scholar at magic DD
White Mages > Scholar at healing
Scholar > them both at multi-tasking.

If the fact that SCH is effective at something bothers you that much, just level scholar...problem solved!

Hey hey HEY!
This is a DERAIL, and we'll have none of your rerailing shit in here.

 

[Xalioniaf]

I believe Pchan's had no day/weather bonuses (the Fire4), whereas that BLM pic obviously does.

Pchan's has a day bonus.

 

[duncanrun]

I believe Pchan's had no day/weather bonuses (the Fire4), whereas that BLM pic obviously does.

Heres his with bonus.

 

[K. Ishitar]

broken pic is broken=/

 

[Necrosis]

Pchan's has a day bonus.

the first one? 1.6 something?

 

[Xalioniaf]

the first one? 1.6 something?

No idea about the first one. Thought you were referring to the second.

 

[Javir]

lolBLU for dispels.

Really this is the only real challenge on the RDM's dominance over dispel (note I said dominance not monopoly). Its kinda irritating, but hey, thats part of the design concept of SCH is to be a little like everyone.

That being granted they need to get off their asses about improving RDM melee to continue on one of RDMs unique aspects (which to this day has never been sufficient to fully explore). SE said they were looking into it, and they should do something or else RDMs only future will lie only on Refresh and Enfeeble skill, and to a now much lesser extent, curing.


Only other thing I have to say is: new SAM ability is cool, but SoboroSAM will still pwn non-SoboroSAM (pre-Hagan/6-hit) <.<

 

[pchan]

I am not bashing PUP. There have been some nice advancements. What are the situations you believe where your PUP would shine over a BLM?
I really don't care about this puddings damage.

If you really wanna see some high numbers, BLMs can go much much higher.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/nugzkraka/img_0069.png
(taken from KI)

This is a flame, as in, most people reading this are noobs and don't undersatnd shit to the game. The purpose of my first screenshot was a reply to someone loling about pup being able to do tier 4s. Apparently people were shocked and claimed the SS to be fake or taken during firesday, which is disproved with the second one.


Oh and yes there are many situations were pup can do as much/more damage as a blm. Dynamis for instance, boss fights, or just standard xp parties. Chain nuking is not an issue due to the mechanics of the job.

 

[pchan]

To answer your questions, yes, some BLM managed 1580 fire 4 with no weather bonus. My pic clearly shows ~1700 no weather ~1900 weather.

 

[Lucki]

To answer your questions, yes, some BLM managed 1580 fire 4 with no weather bonus. My pic clearly shows ~1700 no weather ~1900 weather.

Actually, your first pic shows only damage. You want us to take your word for it that there is no weather mod, and that just isn't going to happen.

 

[K. Ishitar]

Actually, your first pic shows only damage. You want us to take your word for it that there is no weather mod, and that just isn't going to happen.

It's because we're idiots shut up and keep bowing down.

 

[pchan]

Actually, your first pic shows only damage. You want us to take your word for it that there is no weather mod, and that just isn't going to happen.

No i don't need to post another pic because if i do 1900 with day bonus, i do 1700 withour day bonus. Is that still to subtle for this thread ?

 

[Lucki]

No i don't need to post another pic because if i do 1900 with day bonus, i do 1700 withour day bonus. Is that still to subtle for this thread ?

And once again we come full-circle to "pics or it didn't happen"

 

[Tyrath]

Yeah Pchan said the highest was 1580 and the Pic shows 2050. I was just saying why I think Pchan is lying.

Ah, I thought you were saying that to zeth >.>

 

[Knightblade]

Who cares, PUP sucks. Let Pchan think that PUPs can be better healers than WHM, better nukers than BLM, and better melees than MNK. We can just make fun of the huge chunk of missing magic/combat skill PUP has to eat.

PS: PUP sucks. Remember 04-18-06.

 

[pchan]

Who cares, PUP sucks. Let Pchan think that PUPs can be better healers than WHM, better nukers than BLM, and better melees than MNK. We can just make fun of the huge chunk of missing magic/combat skill PUP has to eat.

PS: PUP sucks. Remember 04-18-06.

And better gear than you ?