Krius said:jazper said:
please dont tell me where your shaving... please
please don't tell me where you're fiancee' shaves you :wink:
jazper said:Who said I shave there? The statement should have been..
Sneakypants said:
Sneakypants said:Matt - I don't think you need to worry about forgetting something.
/em plays violin for Mattaru
Why do train farmers try so hard to convince? Is it because somehow they know that what they hear about them being selfish may somehow have a shred of truth? /Gasp!!!!
I came to tell a story, and of course it turned into shit slinging (to be expected on a flameboard)...I was not trying to sway any opinions initially. However, the train farmers became pretty defensive when they read this and offered up every reason they could think of to clear their names.
Not everyone is like this Miriya person though. Some train farmers are willing to talk. Some are just bitches. I told the story of the bitch on the flameboard. When I have a good experience with a train farmer, it will be posted under the "Good Times" forum. /em holds breath
This is really not a matter of code or what is claimed and what is not...
You mentioned I was bitter, which I find interesting. It makes me think that you may have read very little of this thread. It makes me wonder what kind of attention you gave the original post, and how closely you observed how the conversation changed.
If you took good notes, you'd see that I told my story and elaborated a bit. Then a couple train farmers came in and felt it necessary to explain "proper" train farming.
At this point I said, screw it then, if I need to, I will take from the trains...
Dissecting this further, I did say IF I need something...
I also mentioned that I don't care if someone is train farming so long as I have something left to kill.
If I am not left with anything to kill, then I think it's a reasonable expectation that a train farmer should have. They should expect to have people "leach" of "their" trains if they leave nothing behind.
Arguments?
Anyone feel it necessary to quote Thomas Jefferson to back themselves?
:lol:
I realize, I am also nit-picking at this point...Strangely, I do find it necessary to defend myself. Or at least explain myself and not just leave my corpse lying in the dirt for people to kick as they pass by.
Derriz said:
Mattaru said:
Mattaru said:Im going tp number this by paragraph.
1. I try hard to convince because yes i train farm but im also a debate whore, i do debate and like to argue ^^. Is train farming selfish? sure, so is giving away gil to a noob, because you may like the feeling of doing it, people are selfish there is no way of getting around it. Selfish just means acting in self interest, the only reason that a negative conotation to the word is entrenched judeo-christian metanarratives /blink. That s besides the point, everythign people do has some amount of selfishness, the real question is: is it fair?
ME IN RED -->
So what if the guy you gave gil to was bothering you for gil? What if you gave it to hm just to get him away from you? Is that selfishness still because you wanted him to just go away? LOL
2. I'd be defensive if you said from nowon im just gonna take whatever i want off your trains. I didnt post earlier because i had no problem w/ your actions until you talked about just joinking off trains whenever.
As mentioned in me previous reply, that is actually not what I said. At least you didn't quote me this time. What I said is exactly that, but including "As I see fit", which echos the point I have made numerous times regarding the train farmer not leaving anything else. If this is the case, then I will not stop after taking one MOB. I will take what I need. What I came there for. Is that selfish? :lol:
3. If you ever see me training you are entitled to an automatic one mob, more if you ask.
I'll do what I feel I need to do. Talking isn't really necessary. Nor do I make chatter with just anyone.
4. I think ive explained the bitterness comment. Maybe some train farmers on here are bitter too. Maybe we allare just a little bitter but im trying to not let that cloud my judgement, because im probably still bitter about what happened to my freind.
I hear ya. One thing though. My judgement is definitely not clouded. I would have responded this way before or after. Train farmers with an agenda just get under my skin a bit. There I've admitted it.
Maybe I'm generalizing, but I have good reason too. Miriya was the worst case I've seen, but I have only seen 1 train farmer I would actually call nice.
The way I see it, if you are going out of your way to get the attention of as many MOBs as you can, you should also go out of your way to be courteous to those who are not hogging everything.
5. That is what my entire arguments in preceding posts were entirely about and no one has provided any reasons as to why such behavior is always justified.
I think I have justified my point enough. Ask me something specific if youd like me to answer to something in particular.
6. Sure if im estroying everything i come by i thik it would be fine if people took some off my train. Therefore, it would be smart of me not to take everything in the first place ~.<.
Cool, so we agree. What were you saying again?
Mattaru said:
Drugs are bad, mmkay ...Mattaru said: